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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Audio - NIU Shooting: The Untold Story Reply with quote



The NIU Shooting Patsy

Featuring Original Research by Kathy McMahon

As the demonization of Stephen Kazmierczak gathers pace, the truth of
the latest school shooting is slipping away. Our two week investigation
has uncovered details largely unknown to the public --which paint an
entirely different picture of events.

We ask - 'Was Kazmierczak Framed?'

and we reveal:

- The falsity of the claim that drug withdrawal impelled him.
- A simple explanation for his infamous bizarre tattoos.
- The strange phone call he got, and a mystery woman.
- Kazmierczak's highly rational online Amazon Reviews.
- A dirty tricks campaign to depict him as a terrorist.
- The unusual background of top NIU Cop Donald Grady.
- The counter-terrorism operation on the NIU campus.

The Next Level Show - 28th February, 2008

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Coincidentally Exactly 1 Yr Ago! :


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How the events of Columbine are clear evidence of the same
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Guest: Ralph Zaeschmar joins Fintan Dunne to discuss his
investigation and analysis of Columbine, and the conclusive
proof that it was a covert government operation.


The 9/11-3i Investigation Continues

"The Next Level" Internet Radio Show 28th February 2007

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REFERENCES & LINKS

Go here for Original Topic Thread:
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1993




Quote:
Down the thread
for updates on:

--Iraq Links of NIU Police chief, Donald Grady
--Right-wing Bloggers Demonize 'Muslim' Shooter
--Steve Kazmierczak's Amazon Reviews




Seems Kazmierczak spoke Arabic,
and "sympathized" with Hamas....

Gosh! Whou'da thunk Wink


Quote:
School shooter studied Hamas, says friend
'He would especially enjoy practicing his Arabic on me'




Posted: February 22, 2008 6:00 pm Eastern © 2008 WorldNetDaily

A former Northern Illinois University newspaper reporter says the killer who gunned down five innocent students in an apparently unprovoked attack liked to study Arabic and the terror group Hamas.

"'Assalamo alikum,' he [Steve Kazmierczak] would say to me, which means 'peace be with you' in Arabic," wrote Rasmieyh Abdelnabi in an essay published in the Chicago Sun-Times.

"He would proceed to ask me how I was doing and what I was up to, all in Arabic with a thick accent and a huge, excited smile," she continued.

She said the two met in class at the university, took several classes together over the years, and periodically kept in touch when they didn't share classes.

"Our topics of choice: foreign policy and the Middle East. He would especially enjoy practicing his Arabic on me. In 2004, NIU decided to offer a year's worth of Arabic classes. Steve took both classes without hesitation, excited as could be," she wrote.

Just over a week ago, Kazmierczak burst into a lecture hall and shot and killed five students and then himself. The New York Times reports he was taking an anti-anxiety drug and a sleeping aid in addition to the antidepressant Prozac.

But authorities have yet to announce what they believe could have been a motive for his attack, which left Daniel Parmenter, 20, of Westchester, Ill.; Catalina Garcia, 20, of Cicero, Ill.; Ryanne Mace, 19, of Carpentersville, Ill.; Julianna Gehant, 32, of Mendota, Ill.; and Gayle Dubowski, 20, of Carol Stream, Ill., dead.

On Thursday, a week after the attack, the university observed five minutes of silence, one minute for each of the victims.

Abdelnabi wrote that she initially could not believe Kazmierczak was the killer.

"But now I find myself wondering if I ever knew Steve, the man who shot and killed five people and then himself in a lecture hall at my alma mater, Northern Illinois University," she said.

She found out about the killings through a text message from a friend, and confirmed it online.

She said she acted as his "walking dictionary" occasionally. "'What does this word mean in English?' or 'What is this word in Arabic?'" she reported he would ask.

"Once we took a course called 'The Politics of the Middle East.' At the beginning of the course, our instructor informed us a research paper would be due by the end of the semester. Steve decided on Hamas, which is known mainly to the world as being a Palestinian terrorist group, which was the first thing that interested Steve about the group. But he also heard Hamas funded many social services, which also interested him. How could one group be put into two completely different categories, Steve would ask," she wrote.

"Unlike most of us, Steve started his research from day one, reading every book he could find on Hamas. He'd give me a status report when we saw each other in class. Steve said that his perception of Hamas changed with all the research he did," she said.

Authorities also have reported that Kazmierczak took several precautions that would impede investigators, including removing a memory card from his cell phone and removing the hard drive from his computer.

Hundreds of witnesses are being interviewed, but university officials have said it's unclear of Kazmierczak's reasons.

On a a blog called Muslim Watcher, writer Bruce Keegan noted Abdelnabi was the women's representative in the Muslim Student Association at NIU.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57086


Here's the Muslim Watcher Coverage:

Quote:
Sunday, February 17, 2008
Rasmieyh Abdellnabi knew and spoke Arabic to NIU shooter

The NIU shooter knew Arabic. If there is a language
that mentally unstable persons ought not know,
it would be Arabic with it Jihadist videos and Islamists
material, and the Koran and Hadith to boot.

Anyway, here's our reporter again that we met
on this blog before, and she met and spoke Arabic
to the NIU shooter only a couple years back, it seems!
Also, they discussed Hamas, and he came to
"understand" how Hamas could be caring and
terrorists all at the same time. That pretty much
sounds like the NIU shooters profile--a caring
terrorists. Sounds like he free associated with Hamas
just as Cho, the VA Tech Shooter free associated with
jihadists in general.

http://muslimwatcher.blogspot.com/2008/02/rasmieyh-abdellnabi-knew-and-spoke.html

Thursday, May 31, 2007
Another journalist with radical student newspaper connections

Ms. Lekovic...A Dozen Printing Mistakes?
http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/05/ms_lekovica_dozen_printing_mis.php

At the end of the segment, I asked Ms. Lekovic about her former position as “managing editor” of al-Talib, a newspaper published by the Muslim Students’ Association at UCLA, specifically the July 1999 “The Spirit of Jihad” issue, which – almost a full year after al Qaeda’s devastating attack on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania – refers to Osama bin Laden as a “great Mujahid (someone who struggles in Allah’s cause),” instructs Muslim readers to “defend our brother” Osama bin Laden, and “refer to him as a freedom fighter, someone who has forsaken wealth and power to fight in Allah’s cause and speak out against oppressors. We take these stances only to please Allah.” In that issue, Ms. Lekovic’s name clearly appears as “managing editor.”

related:
Steven Emerson Exposes MPAC Spokeswoman's Lies (Again)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25693_Steven_Emerson_Exposes_MPAC_Spokeswomans_Lies_(Again)&only

MPAC's Lekovic caught out yet again
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016700.php

But when Steve Emerson caught her out a few days ago on CNBC's Kudlow, exposing her as the editor of a Muslim student paper in the 1990s that praised Osama bin Laden as a great mujahid, she responded swiftly in a letter to Emerson filled with the insults, slurs, distortions, and victim-playing that will be familiar to longtime readers of this site as often coming from Islamic spokesmen.

Posted by Bruce Keegan at 10:25 PM Sunday, May 13, 2007
http://muslimwatcher.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-journalist-with-radical-student.html

Also:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016594.php
PDF:
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1999-07_Al-Talib.pdf


Here's Rasmieyh Abdellnabi's Sun Times article in full:

Quote:
NIU grad recalls shooter as inquisitive, smart, nice

February 20, 2008
BY RASMIEYH ABDELNABI

I met Steve Kazmierczak in an introductory political science class in 2002 as a freshman in college. He was inquisitive, smart, respectful and nice.

But now I find myself wondering if I ever knew Steve, the man who shot and killed five people and then himself in a lecture hall at my alma mater, Northern Illinois University.

I found out about the shooting through a text message from a friend. A shiver went through my body when I called him for more details. As soon as I could, I ran to the nearest computer with Internet service and scoured the news sites for details. A chill rushed through my body as I combed through all the different articles.

I never, for even a second, thought I would know the shooter, the person responsible for causing so much chaos and havoc. The Steve I knew studied the consequences of chaos and havoc and spoke out against it.

When I found out it was Steve, I forgot to breathe for a minute. I saw the name and kept saying over and over, “It isn’t him.” The man who declared himself a pacifist wouldn’t own a gun, much less kill several people in cold blood.

But it was all over when I saw his picture. There was no denying it anymore: dependable, friendly, smart Steve killed innocent people. Steve and I took several classes together during my four years at NIU.

We would also see each other on campus during the semesters we didn’t have any classes together and catch up.

Our topics of choice: foreign policy and the Middle East. He would especially enjoy practicing his Arabic on me. In 2004, NIU decided to offer a year’s worth of Arabic classes. Steve took both classes without hesitation, excited as could be.

“Assalamo Alikum,” he would say to me, which means “peace be with you” in Arabic. He would proceed to ask me how I was doing and what I was up to, all in Arabic with a thick accent and a huge, excited smile.

Sometimes I was his walking dictionary and he would ask me, “What does this word mean in English?” or “What is this word in Arabic?”

We would debate on issues, sometimes argue, but he would always back his arguments with facts. It was about logic and things adding up to him.

Once we took a course called “The Politics of the Middle East.” At the beginning of the course, our instructor informed us a research paper would be due by the end of the semester. Steve decided on Hamas, which is known mainly to the world as being a Palestinian terrorist group, which was the first thing that interested Steve about the group. But he also heard Hamas funded many social services, which also interested him. How could one group be put into two completely different categories, Steve would ask.

Unlike most of us, Steve started his research from day one, reading every book he could find on Hamas. He’d give me a status report when we saw each other in class. Steve said that his perception of Hamas changed with all the research he did.

Aside from politics, we sometimes touched on personal discussions about our lives. His was not an easy one. We connected over our difficult upbringings.

Steve told me after high school he left home and had to fend for himself.

Before coming to NIU, Steve was homeless. It was through a great deal of effort that Steve came to NIU because he had to do it all on his own, he said.


He was proud of getting into NIU, excited to learn and do something with his life. At first he was interested in international affairs, but then developed a serious and deep longing to study criminal justice. Steve told me he would need to stay longer in school to get his degree in criminal justice, but it was worth it.

I don’t know the Steve who killed five innocent students who were doing precisely what he valued: learning.

(Rasmieyh Abdelnabi is a former Northern Star reporter.)
rabdelnabi at conleynet.com


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/801984,niugrad021908.article#


More from Bruce Keegan at Muslim Watcher, who
has been on Abdelnabi's case since Jan, 2007:


Quote:


Rasmieyh’s Background

From 1998 to 2000, Rasmieyh attended the Argo Community High School, 7329 West 63rd Street, Summit, IL 60501. This high school is 5.1 miles west of the AlSalm MosqueFoundation, 3247 W 63rd St, Chicago, IL 60629, and 4.2 miles north of the hardline Mosque Foundation at 7260 W 93rd St, Bridgeview, IL 60455, and associated ministries (e.g., SoundVision, food pantry, a Muslim association).

The AlSalm (or Al Salam) Mosque was in the news for suing a city over a land deal that fell through, and then later was in the news again for taking a grant of 500,000 USD from the “Global Relief Foundation, an Islamic “charity” that was closed down by the Feds after 9/11 due to terrorism links.”

The Bridgeview Mosque has been in the news a lot for its radicalism and connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. The Chicago Tribune reported that many Bridgeview mosque members are from Beitunia, a Palestinian town of 20,000 four kilometers southwest of Ramallah near the Green Line just north of Jerusalem. Rasmieyh wrote that she visited an uncle back in Palestine in the summer of 2003. Since she mentions walking through Ramallah (or Ram Allah) the most, perhaps her uncle lives in Beitunia or thereabouts.

The Tribune reported that Islamist activists such as Al-Arian have raised funds for charity at the Bridgeview, and this money subsequently went for terrorism in the Holy Land. In Islam, the rightful recipients of zakat charity include jihadists. The FBI has investigated the mosque, but filed no charges. The Chicago Tribune reported on the Bridgeview mosque:

Quote:
All but the youngest girls wore head scarves….Soon, mosque
leaders—adhering to a strict interpretation of Islam—told the
congregation's women to cover their hair and wear looser clothing.
During social events, the women were separated from the men….Men
who attended the mosque grew their beards and traded their T-shirts
for long tunics. Women draped themselves in loose, ankle-length
robes......


College Muslim Student Organizations

From 2003 to 2004 Abdelnabi was the Women’s Representative in the Muslim Student Association (MSA) at Northern Illinois University (NIU) at DeKalb outside of Chicago. Daniel Pipes refers to the MSA as the Saudi “Wahhabism’s contribution to the North American campus.” Asan Akbar, a Muslim and a US Army sergeant, killed and wounded several soldiers in Kuwait in 2003. He attended UC-Davis from 1988-1997 where there is an active Muslim Student Association.

From 2004-2005 Rasmieyh was the female co-president, the other co-president being a male.

http://muslimwatcher.blogspot.com/2007/01/islamic-radicalism-in-chicago-area.html

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good time to
highlight this issue again:




This is Jessica Baty, Steven's girlfriend, in an interview
with CNN. Where she talks about the note from Steve.





This is the front of the note/card




This is the inside of the note with a printed message.


So why did he print the note instead of handwriting it?

Why did he sign the note "Steven Kazmierczak" instead of just Steve or Steven?

How did he print the note?


A full length version of the interview is here:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/02/18/bts.niu.shooter.girlfriend.cnn?iref=videosearch

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http://breakfornews.com/kazmierczak/images/jessicabaty-cnn.jpg
http://breakfornews.com/kazmierczak/images/steven_letter_back.jpg
http://breakfornews.com/kazmierczak/images/steven_letter_front.jpg

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to revisit a lot of issues about this story.
Including this: Kazmierczak was covering his
tracks, police say. Or someone was:

Quote:
ATF: Seized laptop computer had no hard drive

Posted: 07:59 PM ET February 16th, 2008

DEKALB, Ill. (CNN) — A laptop computer seized from a DeKalb hotel,
believed to be connected to the deadly shooting earlier this week at
Northern Illinois University, contained had no hard drive, the ATF said
Saturday.


On Friday, investigators searched Room 105 of the DeKalb Travelodge
hotel. A source close to the investigation told CNN the search was in
connection with the Thursday shooting on the NIU campus. The hotel
manager told CNN authorities seized a laptop that was left in the room.

However, Dana Nichols, assistant special agent in charge for the Chicago
office of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives,
told CNN on Saturday the computer had no hard drive. Nichols also said
that authorities believe Steven Kazmierczak, the NIU gunman, checked in
and out of another hotel located closer to the NIU campus. However,
police do not think Kazmierczak stayed in the room. She could not
confirm when Kazmierczak checked in and out or the name of the hotel.

– CNN’s Mike Ahlers contributed to this report.
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/16/atf-seized-laptop-computer-had-no-hard-drive/

I wonder what was on that laptop?
Jessica Baty probably does as well.
Quote:
Baty also told CNN that Kazmierczak recently was “being secretive with his computer,” but she didn't know why.
http://dekalb-chronicle.com/articles/2008/02/21/news/news03.txt

There was no sim card in Kzamierczak's cellphone either:
Quote:
Gunman covered his tracks, cops say
Chip was removed from his cell phone


By Steve Schmadeke and Alexa Aguilar | Tribune reporters
9:10 PM CST, February 19, 2008

Police think the graduate student who shot and killed five students last
week at Northern Illinois University took steps to thwart investigators
trying to figure out why he did it.


In addition to removing the hard drive from his laptop computer, Steven
Kazmierczak also removed the SIM card—a key computer
chip—from his cell phone
, a police source said.

Police also said his former girlfriend gave a different account to police
than she did in an interview with CNN about Kazmierczak's final weeks....

Among the other unanswered questions are why Kazmierczak targeted
that particular building and class and why he carried out the killings on
Valentine's Day, Grady said. There were no clues in the note or package
he sent to his former girlfriend shortly before the attack.

"He didn't tell people what he was going to do," Grady said. "And he took
steps to thwart any investigation."

Kazmierczak's computer has been turned over to the FBI, said Joe Cullen,
DeKalb County first assistant state's attorney. Authorities also plan to get
a search warrant for Kazmierczak's cell phone, Cullen said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-niu_investigation_webfeb20,1,3794612.story

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then there's the psychiatrist
he'd been seeing in recent times:


Quote:
Investigators Baffled by Gunman's Choice of Cole Hall

AP- 2/20/2008

....Baty told a CNN reporter on Tuesday that Kazmierczak had been
taking Xanax, Ambien and Prozac, prescribed by a psychiatrist he'd
begun seeing shortly after the couple moved to Champaign
in June 2007
, the network reported Wednesday.....

"He was just devastatingly good, he would talk about ideas," said Jim
Thomas
, an emeritus professor of sociology and criminology at NIU who
gave Kazmierczak the title of co-instructor instead of the less-prestigious
teaching assistant..... Thomas wonders whether Kazmierczak chose Cole
Hall specifically because of his success there.

"He had a sense of symbolism..." he said. "Steve chose to end it where he began it."
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=102886

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alaways amazing to me how these "desperate, nothing to live for, soon-to-be dead murderers" take such careful steps in regards to issues they will not be around to deal with... from paying parking fees on the cars they are abandoning to covering their digital tracks by opening, removing and disposing of (in a place one will ever look?) a laptop hard drive.

Good thing we have federal agencies to take over these "important" investigations, so no evidence gets compromised. Laughing

I knew Steve Emerson would get involved in this White-wash - or perhaps, Brown-wash, considering the way it's targeted to further dishonestly associate the act with Islam. Emerson's credibility as the MSM's go-to terror 'expert' is dwarfed only by his own vertical dwarfism.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then there's a couple of issues
that just might be linked:


Who made the phone call to him that seemed to initiate his move on
Monday from the Best Western DeKalb Inn & Suites -where he had
a reservation thru Friday, to the Travelodge hotel two minutes away,
after staying only 15 minutes at the Best Western??
Quote:
Investigation of shooter leads to more questions
By Benji Feldheim - Daily Chronicle

On Monday, Kazmierczak stayed for only 15 minutes at the room he
booked at the Best Western DeKalb Inn & Suites before leaving, a Best
Western employee said Saturday - even though he had reservations for
Monday through Friday. He left after reportedly receiving a phone call.

Kazmierczak then moved to room 105 in the Travelodge next to the
Best Western on Lincoln Highway, paying cash and only signing “Steven”
to register for the room, Rupa Patel, wife of hotel manager Jay Patel,
said Saturday.

Google Cache:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:AFP4YUjwqMAJ:www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/2008/02/18/news/news01.txt

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Original link now goes to a different story
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/2008/02/18/news/news01.txt

Google Search still has the original:
http://www.google.com/search?&q=Kazmierczak+travelodge+moved
Daily Chronicle Online | News | Investigation of shooter leads to ...
Kazmierczak then moved to room 105 in the Travelodge next to the Best Western on
Lincoln Highway, paying cash and only signing “Steven” to register for the ...
www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/2008/02/18/news/news01.txt - 49k - Cached - Similar pages


So does Topix - dated the previous day 17th - not 18th
http://www.topix.com/city/depue-il/2008/02/investigation-of-shooter-leads-to-more-questions


And who was the girl at the back of the Cole Hall auditorium, who when
the shooting started, simply burst out crying and left. Seemed strange
to the police and the eyewitness. The article seems to imply that Kazmierczak
might have been looking for her...
Quote:
Police piecing together gunman's activities, still lack motive

By Jeff Coen and Monique Garcia | TRIBUNE REPORTERS February 16, 2008

...A law enforcement source said some students in the oceanography class
Thursday noticed Kazmierczak poke his head into the classroom more
than once before the shooting. It was unclear whether he was searching
the crowd for a particular person
, the source said.

One student who was sitting in the back of the lecture hall told
investigators he noticed a young woman take a seat at the back of
the class with no books or notes
, a law enforcement source said.
When the shooting started, the student noticed the woman start
crying and then leave
, the source said. Investigators were looking
to interview the woman.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-invest_16feb16,0,609355.story

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transcripts from CNN

Quote:
BETTY NGUYEN, CO-HOST: Good morning, everybody from the CNN Center here in Atlanta. It is Sunday, February 17th, I'm Betty Nguyen. Thank you for starting your day with us.
T.J. HOLMES, CO-HOST: And good morning to you all. I'm T.J. Holmes. It's 7:00 o'clock here in the east

NGUYEN: We're also live in Illinois this morning. Police have recovered several items in connection with the Northern Illinois University shooter. We're going to tell you what they've learned overnight.

DON LEMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT, DEKALB, ILLINOIS: Overnight a DeKalb police source confirmed to CNN that Steven Kazmierczak did stay at the hotel near the campus just days before the shooting. The source also said, they found a laptop and that laptop did not contain a hard drive. They found also said they found a duffel bag with ammunition. All this while troubling details emerged about the killer's mental past.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there anything you guys can tell us about this computer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. LEMON (voice over): Investigators were back at the DeKalb Travel Lodge for a second day to speak with hotel staff about a laptop computer left behind by a guest who checked in last Monday under the name Steve, the same first name as the Northern Illinois University shooter.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who are you guys with?

LEMON (on camera): City of DeKalb. And so, but you can't tell us why you came back the second time to talk to them?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, not right now.

LEMON: And nothing about the computer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And nothing about the computer.

LEMON (voice over): The hotel manager's wife says her husband, Jay (ph), was behind the desk when Steve arrive wearing sunglasses. Police say they showed Jay (ph) of photo of Steven Kazmierczak.

RUPAL PATEL, MOTEL MANAGER'S WIFE: But he cannot recognize him.

LEMON: Why not?

PATEL: He's wearing the glasses and all of -


LEMON: But days later, after the shooting, when police called asking if a guest named Steve had left behind a Toshiba laptop computer, staff checked the guest card, the last name unreadable. They sent someone to check room 105.

LEMON: Who found the computer?

PATEL: Well, the maintenance guys. He said it's in there so, he called police and give the room number. (INAUDIBLE)

LEMON (on camera): Where is the registry where he signed his name?

PATEL: Police have it.

LEMON: Police have the registry?

PATEL: Yes.

LEMON: Police called in the bomb squad for a sweep and confiscated the computer and other items. But left behind were clothing, luggage and drawer littered with two sets of unidentifiable packaged pills, energy drinks, empty water bottles and cigarette packs.

Still police haven't found a motive and they're now looking to the 27-year-old's past for clues. According to the "Associated Press", Kazmierczak's parents sent him to a Chicago area group home shortly after high school because he was unruly and refused to take his medication. CNN Chicago affiliate WLS, spoke with the former group home manager.

VOICE OF LOUISE GBADAMASHI, FMR. GROUP HOME MANAGER: He was already on medication at that time and the problem was he wasn't taking it at home and wouldn't follow instructions.

LEMON: What was his condition when he didn't take his medication?

GBADAMASHI: He'd have a cutter, he would cut himself and then he would let you discover it. He wouldn't tell you. He just like rolls his sleeve up and asks a question; and if you would turn around and you had to see it. I guess it was a shock value. We want to help because he can't help himself.

LEMON: Other than the cutting, did you ever see him violent?

GBADAMASHI: Well, it's hard to tell when he's violent because his expression doesn't change. He just strikes out and you just have to really know him in his eyes, you could see it. You can't look at him like, I'm angry, you're going to know it. It's just stoic. It's just stoic.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/17/sm.01.html


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They believe he had three guns, a shotgun, a Glock and then another smaller caliber handgun. They believe that. They haven't found that smaller handgun, but they have a clip, a cartridge that doesn't fit the Glock. So they believe there is a third handgun as well.

Just past 3:00, approximately 100 students are in geology class. It is almost over when students say a strange man comes through a seldom used door at the back of the lecture stage.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I looked up and I saw he had a huge gun and I saw him shoot my teacher. Everybody just dropped.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People were rushing in, kind of hastily. It was almost like nerve-racking, almost surreal. You weren't sure if it was real or not.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was crawling over people; I could feel people crawling over me. Everybody was just pushing and trying to get out as soon as possible.

FOREMAN: Students say the gunman keeps up steady apparent indiscriminate fire. At least one says he switches to a handgun. Within moments, however, the first students escape, running out into the middle of campus.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The students were running out, yelling, and it was -- there's so many of them, I pretty much got carried up in the rage.

FOREMAN: 3:02. Outside students are yelling for others to get away and making calls for help. Campus police rush to the building.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was leaving, I heard about seven or eight more shots coming from him and I could still hear him going as I was running.

FOREMAN: 3:07, a campus lockdown is declared as ambulances are called to begin taking the wounded to a hospital only minutes away. 3:20, an all-campus alert goes out, telling students there is a possible gunman at large. Go to a safe area. By 4:10, authorities say the gunman has killed himself and did so shortly after the shooting began even though he still had plenty of unused ammo.

DONALD GRADY, NIU POLICE CHIEF: The incident itself was over very fast. We don't know exactly how but from the time we got the call until the time we had officers on the scene, at this point I'm being told was less than two minutes.

FOREMAN: In all, witnesses say he fired perhaps 30 shots before taking his own life.

(on camera) There is an awful lot we still don't know as we said at the beginning there, Anderson. The man was all dressed in black; people said had a ski mask -- he put it on his head a ski hat not covering his face.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/14/acd.02.html


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Kazmierczak spent more than a year at the Thresholds-Mary Hill House in Chicago, where his parents placed him after high school because he had become “unruly” at home, former house manager Louise Gbadamashi told the AP
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/2008/02/16/news/news03.txt

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thresholds maryhill house has been mentioned a LOT in the main stream media in the last 9 days, yet when I do a search on google the first page, with the exception of one link to the www.huffingtonpost.com are "googlebomb" sites.

LINK to Google search

Can anyone find information about Thresholds maryhill house?

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Kazmierczak's parents sent him to a Chicago area group home shortly after high school because he was unruly and refused to take his medication.
VOICE OF LOUISE GBADAMASHI, FMR. GROUP HOME MANAGER: He was already on medication at that time and the problem was he wasn't taking it at home and wouldn't follow instructions.

Ok, so now the question is, why was he put on medication in the first place? Maybe because he was unruly and wouldn't follow instructions. Which, as I understand it, is a silent epidemic ravaging the teenage population. Now it even has a name: "Oppositional Defiance Disorder(ODD)"

As far as the "missing" hard drive"* goes, you can bet there is a record of it somewhere out there in cyberspace, given the known proclivities of our NSA for domestic snooping. Ditto that telephone call at the hotel("Raymond Shaw? Raymond Prentiss Shaw?"). They have the number, and hence the address, of the caller at the phone company.


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*The FBI has a way of absconding with the hard drives in situations like these. That's what they did with the hard drives out of the computers of Red Lake's Jeff Weise(3-21-05) and Columbine's Eric Harris(4-20-99), never to be seen again.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kathy's been tracking the newly-seeded NIU shooting meme:
"Kazmierczak Spoke Arabic and Loved Hamas," and it's
going down a treat with the ranting intellekt-shual dwarfs who
ensure the blogsphere is filed with a steady diet of anti-Muslim,
'let's-keep-our-warriors-in-Iraq-forever' mania:

Quote:
NIU Killer Liked HAMAS, Spoke Arabic, Says Extremist Muslim Friend;
Was He a Muslim Convert?


I'm sure this, too, will attract the ire of my friends at the Nazi-funded
Media Matters for America gang.

After all, how dare I repeat the words of a Muslim reporter in the
Chicago Sun-Times who was friends with Northern Illinois University killer
Steven Kazmierczak, and said he was a good guy because he spoke
Muslim phrases in Arabic with a phony Arabic accent and liked HAMAS?

The nerve of me to report that Muslim former Northern Star reporter
Rasmieyh Abdelnabi says Kazmierczak was "nice, smart" because he
liked HAMAS.

I mean, I'm sure this is just a coincidence--him liking HAMAS and then
rampaging HAMAS-style, murdering multiple innocent people on the NIU campus

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/02/niu_killer_like.html


All of which is useful propaganda, of course.

Not that I'm suggesting that Rasmieyh Abdellnabi pened her revelations about
Kazmierczak so that this blog-rage on the issue could be deliberately seeded.
Perish the thought! No way.

(Excuse me while I have a fit of coughing brought on by a
totally unconnected bout of prolonged hysterical laughter....)


It's not the first time that NIU's Muslims have attracted this kind of blog ire.
The masters of one-sentence, grunt-level, knee-jerk opinion over at
Little Green Fuk-All's had a go at NIU back in late-2003:

Quote:
Fifth Column at NIU
Wed, Sep 3, 2003 at 9:10:36 pm PST

In the Northern Illinois University student newspaper, a rabidly seething
article by an Arab student attacks Israel for curfews and roadblocks, and
casually dismisses suicide bombings as if they were weather patterns,
blameless forces of nature, nothing to do with Palestinian terror gangs....
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=8065


Anyway, back to current times. That guardian of US security, Bruce Keegan
at Muslim Watcher, whose article I included in a post above, and who has
been on Abdelnabi's case since Jan, 2007 --has more on the NUI Muslim's:

Quote:
In 2006 or so Rasmieyh Abdelnabi became a reporter for the
Beloit Daily News in Beloit, Wisconsin. Then in December 2006 Derrick
Shareef, aka Talib Abu Salam Ibn Shareef, plotted to attack synagogues
in area, especially the one in DeKalb
. He also considered attacking a
courthouse in DeKalb and CherryVale Mall in Rockford, Illinois. He was
arrested on 6 Dec 2006.

Derrick Shareef actually attended the same mosque in DeKalb that
Rasmieyh attended in college, but Rasmieyh mentions none of this in her
piece on Shareef. Shareef mentions that the umma was a motivating
concept for his terror activity
.

http://muslimwatcher.blogspot.com/2007/01/islamic-radicalism-in-chicago-area.html


Leaving aside the ranting, the important point is that Steve Kazmierczak
and would-be "terrorist" Shareef have something in common: the Muslim
community in NIU and/or journalist Rasmieyh Abdellnabi.

Moving on....

Quote:
It was the informant who put Shareef in touch with “a friend”
who actually was an undercover federal agent, Acosta said.

Shareef was arrested in December when he met with the undercover
federal agent in a Rockford parking lot
and offered to exchange his stereo
speakers for four hand grenades and a gun. The agent showed him four
non-functioning grenades as well as a pistol and non-functioning ammunition.
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/2007/11/29/news/local/news07.txt

Which raises the old issue of the calculated fanning of the flames of
would-be terrorists, in order to justify the FBI/Anti-Terror apparatus.
And show Amerika what a great job they do protecting everybody.

Quote:
Although he pleaded guilty, Shareef said he hadn't intended to hurt anyone
and was “coerced into doing things and trapped into doing things.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Shareef

Ok. "Coerced" is a bit strong, because Shareef was a nutcase. But "trapped,"
or certainly enabled, beyond his natural incompetence, is pretty close.

Quote:
Shareef, a convert to the Nation of Islam, was steered by an undercover informant
from wanting to "smoke a judge" to a more public plan to "disrupt Christmas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Shareef

Ahem. "Steered" being a very good choice of words.

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"I don't believe that my son purposely has done anything wrong,"
she said. "I believe he has gotten involved with the wrong people. …
I don't know who he's running with." --Shareef's mother
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2593

Yeah. He got involved with the VERY wrong people.

Think the color black and the word 'operations.'

In and around the Mosque in NIU.

(That pen you see lying there, is for connecting the little dots up, by the way.)

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I, Jared Ruddy, Federal Bureau of Investigation, being duly sworn, state as follows:

I am a Special Agent in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) and have been
so employed for more than two years. I am currently assigned to an FBI Counterterrorism squad
as well as the Chicago Joint Terrorism Task Force (“JTTF”). My duties include the investigation
of individuals who criminally violate the criminal laws of the United States Code. The information
contained in this affidavit is based on personal knowledge, information supplied to me by other law
enforcement officers, conversations with a confidential source that participated in this investigation,
and review of certain documents and records related to this investigation. This Affidavit is
submitted for the limited purpose of showing that probable cause exists to charge defendant
DERRICK SHAREEF, also known as (“a.k.a.”) “TalibAbu SalamIbn Shareef,” with (1) attempting
to maliciously damage and destroy, by means of fire and an explosive, a building and real and
personal property used in interstate commerce and in any activity affecting interstate commerce.......
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:F5Cik9ZX2b4J:www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/indict/2006/us_v_shareef.pdf


All of which raises the possibility, perhaps even the certainty, that the
recently-deceased, Steve Kazmierczak, who is no longer in a position
to speak publicly about these issues, was either:

A) Unfortunately targeted by the VERY wrong people in NUI.

Z) Or, considering his willing embrace of Arabic studies and his brief
military carreer, perhaps even ONE of the VERY wrong people.

Or some of the other 24 alphabetic letters in between. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why did they kill him dude?
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