Audio - Exposed: $70+ Billion Stolen from US Veterans

[Fintan]

Exposed:

$70 Billion Stolen from US Veterans

Special Guest: Edwin H. Crosby III - veterancourtcodes.com

The lid is being kept on a system of allocating secret codes attached to
the discharge papers of over 20 million U.S. veteran soldiers. Codes
which corporate and bureaucratic interests have been using to deny
employment and legitimate veteran benefits. Codes which facilitate
a huge theft of over $70 Billion, in a scam which has lasted decades.


The theft of necessity extends to the highest level of the U.S military
and political establishments. It has been squashed by the top tiers of
the judicial system and unreported by the corporate media. It's a story
which could blow the lid off America, as tens of thousands of new vets
return to face the same ruthless theft as veterans before them.

The Next Level Show - 8th February, 2008

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[the_hammer]

Hello Fintin, Hammer here from the ol days, good to hear you still on top of your game.
I've always said you were/ are one of the best researchers/ investigating reporters there is and you've certainly proved that time & time again..

In a fair world your broadcasts are worthy of a Nobel prize, we thank-you.

Another great audio interview on the veteran scam, wow man if this gets out,
(and I plan on doing my best to spread it around )
it should be enough to SHOCK the sheeple out of their coma's brought on by a diet of prescription meds, fluorinated cocktails, and lungs full of chem-trails and more.......

Well done Fintin,
Also, I'd like to thank you for recent audio additions to your treincarnation site, Havent been there in awhile,,,,It's Still one of my favorites when I do visit.
Hi to Kathy, and the dogs? Stay Well. The_Hammer

[RedMahna]

I just wish all of us with differing viewpoints in America and around the world would get a clue that we're not so different and that we ought to accept some moderate open-mindedness to this fact...
I'm talking about my impression of veterancourtcodes.com's advertiser called newswithviews.com/books that has an inventory of pretty radical titles, until you figure out the authors are coming from a generally Christian Right point of view (ie: Warnings against New Ageism and scientific "evidence" against genetic Homosexuality, and shit like that... )
I thought for sure I'd see Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth on newswithviews' book roster. Haha.

Not for nothing, the masses are pissed when THEIR rights and freedoms are being fucked with. Too bad the masses are broken down into self-contained groups who are natural enemies of every other pissed-off group.

Humans: The family of animals who have the ultimate ability to be completely illogical.

Anyway, at least the Vets are sounding off, but they've been sounding off for a long, long time. What makes us think politicians will be listening to them any more than any other group? Even among Vets, their attitude is "I hate the Government." But simultaneously, they also say, "At least I went (to Vietnam, Iraq, wherever...) and I'm damn proud of it!"

Moreover, what will China do for all their damaged veterans in their next official war? Do they have a Veteran's Administration? Do they have enough money for healthcare? Does any country's government really care about their military on an individual basis, or isn't all about sending their expendable, willing, proud, dutiful citizens into harms' way?

An aquaintence of mine was a medic in Vietnam. He had to euthanize dozens of men because their battalion had no time or means to carry them out to get better medical attention. Today, this guy himself lives in extreme pain, on dope, and can literally go from somber to psychotic in a moment. I feel bad for him. But I would rather move next door to a sex offender than this guy. Now that's sad. (I love you but get the fuck away from me....)

People in power
People benefiting from
People who have no choice
People benefiting from
People other than but still have no choice
People benefiting from
Any questions?

Red

[RedMahna]

Oh, maybe what we need is commercial backing of the US Military... like Coke or Pepsi.
In our Western (Roman) culture, sports heros have so much in the way of perks for their aggressive behaviors. And when they retire, they get the best medical care for all those aches and pains suffered on the battle field against their enemy teams.
Now there's a privatization idea.

Red

[duane]

How can you be defrauded out of benefits you aren't entitled to. maybe this will make the problem go away.

THIS SHOULD BE POSTED ON THE DOOR OF EVERY MILITARY RECRUITER


from the San Francisco Chronicle

Veterans not entitled to mental health care, U.S. lawyers argue

Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, February 5, 2008

Veterans have no legal right to specific types of medical care, the Bush administration argues in a lawsuit accusing the government of illegally denying mental health treatment to some troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The arguments, filed Wednesday in federal court in San Francisco, strike at the heart of a lawsuit filed on behalf of veterans that claims the health care system for returning troops provides little recourse when the government rejects their medical claims.

The Department of Veterans Affairs is making progress in increasing its staffing and screening veterans for combat-related stress, Justice Department lawyers said. But their central argument is that Congress left decisions about who should get health care, and what type of care, to the VA and not to veterans or the courts.

A federal law providing five years of care for veterans from the date of their discharge establishes "veterans' eligibility for health care, but it does not create an entitlement to any particular medical service," government lawyers said.

They said the law entitles veterans only to "medical care which the secretary (of Veterans Affairs) determines is needed, and only to the extent funds ... are available."

The argument drew a sharp retort from a lawyer for advocacy groups that sued the government in July. The suit is a proposed class action on behalf of 320,000 to 800,000 veterans or their survivors.

"Veterans need to know in this country that the government thinks all their benefits are mere gratuities," attorney Gordon Erspamer said. "They're saying it's completely discretionary, that even if Congress appropriates money for veterans' health care, we can do anything we want with it."

The issue will be joined March 7 at a hearing before U.S. District Judge Samuel Conti, who denied the administration's request last month to dismiss the suit. While the case is pending, the plaintiffs want Conti to order the government to provide immediate mental health treatment for veterans who say they are thinking of killing themselves and to spend another $60 million on health care.

The suit accuses the VA of arbitrarily denying care and benefits to wounded veterans, of forcing them to wait months for treatment and years for benefits, and of failing to provide fair procedures for appealing decisions against them.

The plaintiffs say that the department has a backlog of more than 600,000 disability claims and that 120 veterans a week commit suicide.

In his Jan. 10 ruling that allowed the suit to proceed, Conti said federal law entitles veterans to health care for a specific period after leaving the service, rejecting the government's argument that it was required to provide only as much care as the VA's budget allowed in a given year. A law that President Bush signed last week extended the period from two to five years.

In its latest filing, however, the Justice Department reiterated that Congress had intended "to authorize, but not require, medical care for veterans."

"This court should not interfere with the political branches' design, oversight and modification of VA programs," the government lawyers argued.

They also said the VA "is making great progress in addressing the mental health care needs of combat veterans." Among other things, they cited a law passed in November that required the department to establish a suicide-prevention program that includes making mental health care available around the clock.

The VA has hired nearly 3,800 mental health professionals in the last two years and has at least one specialist in post-traumatic stress disorder at each of its medical centers, the government said.

Since June, government lawyers said, the VA has had a policy that all veterans who seek or are referred for mental health care should be screened within 24 hours, that those found to be at risk of suicide should be treated immediately, and that others should be scheduled for full diagnosis and treatment planning within two weeks. A new suicide-prevention hot line has been responsible for "more than 380 rescues," the lawyers said.

Erspamer, the plaintiffs' lawyer, was unimpressed.

"Nowhere do I see any explanation of what kind of systems they have in place that deal with suicidal veterans," he said. "There's no excuse for not spending the money Congress told them to spend on mental health care and leaving $60 million on the table when people are going out and killing themselves."

E-mail Bob Egelko at begelko@sfchronicle.com.

This article appeared on page A - 8 of the San Francisco Chronicle

[Wu Li]

I will grab this and send this out through email
I will make sure I make clear that this is of most importance.

I must commend you Fintan for this report.
Although, I called you an "Outsider" in the last I still think you are a great resource for the human condition no matter what issue.

This report was very disturbing to me and frustrating!!!
No kidding!

[Rumpl4skn]

Amazing story. I believe this came across the forum a few years ago, in the form of a You Tube video, but I could be wrong.

Ed Crosby's first mistake was when he allowed Biden to shelve his revelations to the "back room". He should have said, "You're right, Mr. Biden, this is 'very important'. That's why I'd like to say it here, in front of the witnesses and media."

Note to Ed Crosby - this may sound like a joke, but I'm dead serious. Lose the mustache. With a name like Crosby, the first smear that will be told about you is that you're related to David Crosby, the publicly acknowledged "crazy drug-addled hippy." That'll render you instantly dismissable to a large section of the population. I'm totally serious.

Amazing story.

[heiho1]

Thank you for the broadcast, Fintan. This is an important issue and it merits real discussion amongst the military and their families. As the son of a Vietnam veteran, I know how the VA plays games with the lives of their soldiers.

[atm]

It is instructive that Ron Paul wants to bring the troops home; however, he will not touch this topic.

A ten-term Congressman who doesn't know about this robbery?

Give me a break.

This shows his real colours.

Sickening.

Ed, bust his balls about this. Go to 'his' 'War Room', his Web site and go viral.

abc news covered it, so Paul knows. His silence is deafening.

atm

[Rumpl4skn]

I am still, to this day, linking to this piece.

Not that I have proof that it's doing any good, but I have shut a few Conservatives up about their plasticated, sound-byted support of the military. Most of them don't seem to want to acknowledge it either, because it doesn't come from their media heroes.