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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: 9/11 Commissioner: 'We had to go through Karl Rove' Reply with quote

I know what you are probably thinking but as I here some of this stuff I find it very interesting.
The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation, by New York Times reporter Philip Shenon, indicts Zelikow on his ties with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and his frequent contact with senior political adviser Karl Rove, during what was touted as an independent investigation into the events surrounding the 2001 World Trade Center attack. This seeming conflict of interest, the book says, led Commission staffers not to trust Zelikow.

I am only posting this because I find his info very interesting on a few fronts wether or not it is distraction or actual clues to an end.

I just thought I would post this to see what you all have to say about this.
I am finding his current interview on some station here in NYC very interesting.
820am WNYC
click on the 820am MP3 perhaps.

I just thought the whole NSA and Iran connection very telling in his argument if some here understand my point.
I'll go back now.
I'll wait for some input.

"Fear is the passion of slaves."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is something nobody cares to discuss in public because it's clear proof that Z-COW controlled the entire investigation. His ties to many are well documented, his business is fabrication and embedding such into the psyche of the uneducated, or the( TOO BUSY TO CARE ) crowds. He's good at it. Written papers which have been published on it.

He manipulated the people charged with the actual investigation by steering them away from certain aspects of said investigation and the EVIDENCE associated with it.

He was on the news yesterday. The chair head said that Z-COW didn't influence the investigation. lol What do you want Hamilton to do_ admit he was given a rigged job and that he wasn't smart enough to see the trees for the forest. He got duped and isn't man enough to admit it in public.

Z-COW was the gatekeeper on this one. JMHO

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hombre wrote:
The chair head said that Z-COW didn't influence the investigation. lol What do you want Hamilton to do_ admit he was given a rigged job and that he wasn't smart enough to see the trees for the forest. He got duped and isn't man enough to admit it in public.

Z-COW was the gatekeeper on this one. JMHO

And Hamilton was CHOSEN to be the gatekeeper on the October Surprise and Iran-Contra and possibly BCCI in the 80's and 90's (or at least a couple of those).

google Robert Parry october surprise hamilton
google Robert Parry iran-contra hamilton

Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., who was chairman of the Iran-contra panel.

the Baker-Hamilton troop drawdown plan

When Hamilton was chosen in late 1991 to chair the October Surprise Task Force .....

"A senior committee source said one of Cheney’s top priorities was to block Democrats from deposing Vice President Bush about his Iran-contra knowledge......... Despite surrendering to Cheney’s demands time and again, Hamilton failed, in the end, to get a single House Republican to sign the final report. Only three moderate Republicans on the Senate side – Warren Rudman, William Cohen and Paul Trible – agreed to sign the report, after extracting more concessions. Cheney and the other Republicans submitted a minority report that denied that any significant wrongdoing had occurred.... The watered-down Iran-contra majority report essentially let Vice President Bush off the hook. Bush’s political career was saved..... In 1989, Cheney became Bush’s defense secretary."
Covering Up Iran-Contra - Robert Parry.

"[The 'October Surprise' sabotage] was a covert operation by the Reagan-Bush campaign that secretly forged a deal with the Iranian radicals who, after overthrowing the US-backed Shah, were holding 52 Americans (including several CIA agents) as hostages.
But the report was suppressed, task force chairman Rep. Lee Hamilton (backed by Henry Hyde) sandbagged the rest of the inquiry, and the final verdict was that there was 'no credible evidence' of a secret deal. The 'investigation' was such a sham [just like the Sept 11 investigation may well be, nlpwessex] that Hamilton publicly exonerated Bush (by then the president) before it even started. 16 By engaging in renegade 'foreign policy,' the Reagan-Bush team undercut President Carter's own secret efforts to free the hostages and thereby stole the White House. It was, in fact, a coup d'etat ."

-- After Bush left office on Jan. 20, 1993, President Bill Clinton (along with other senior Democrats, including Hamilton) cut short a congressional inquiry into Bush’s secret billion-dollar loans to Saddam Hussein and did nothing to help Special Prosecutor Lawrence Walsh penetrate the Iran-Contra cover-up.

--Hamilton also soft-pedaled two key congressional inquiries. The first investigated the Iran-Contra scandal in 1987 and the second examined allegations that the 1980 Reagan-Bush campaign team had struck a treasonous deal with the hostage-holding Iranian government while Jimmy Carter was still president.

Conventional wisdom has attributed the target-friendliness of those latter investigations to Mr. Hamilton's celebrated spirit of bipartisanship.

And how else to explain Hamilton’s ill-advised decision to join with the panel’s Republicans (in defiance of all but one other Democrat) and immunize the testimony of a man on whom it had the goods, Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North (whose operations in the Old Executive Office Building had been exposed by reporter Parry in 1985-86)?

Thus emboldened, the cocky Col. North proceeded to cover up for then-Vice President Bush, and North was spared a felony record because his later criminal conviction was reversed because of his immunized testimony, which Hamilton had helped arrange.

What's more interesting in the 1993 article/speech by Parry is that déjà vu parallels to 9-11 verbiage, logic, and official actions towards any investigation. And the existence of a smoking hull of a plane on the ground in Nicaragua that nobody knew how it got there.

Another interesting rhetorical question is WHY DOES ANYONE IN AMERICA OR THE WORLD PLACE ANY CREDENCE WHATSOEVER ON THE 9-11 COMMISSION REPORT? One would assume that a David Ray Griffin could have saved a lot of typing by copying some of Robert Parry's testimony, pasting it in his Introduction pages, then a photo of him tossing the Commission Report into the fireplace.

Do we really need multiple books detailing how the REPORT is a sham (ok, fine, I suppose we do and book deals are not a bad thing) when the most OBVIOUS fact is that Hamilton is a serial liar and damage control specialist for both parties, but especially the Bush family?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the long article I was thinking of:
Fooling America
A talk by Robert Parry given in Santa Monica on March 28, 1993
And of all the taboos - obviously for a long time the North network was just a 'crazy conspiracy theory', and then the idea that Bush was involved was a 'crazy conspiracy theory', and the idea that there was a cover-up was a 'crazy conspiracy theory', and I'd seen all these conspiracy theories actually turn out to be true, so I really didn't want to discount anything without having looked at it carefully,

more on Lee Hamilton from previous article:
Hamilton’s Iran-Contra performance was troubling. But he went several steps further when he chaired the October Surprise Task Force and handed the Reagan-Bush administration a deck full of get-out-of-jail-free cards.

déjà vu:
The key issue was the veracity of Bush’s and Casey’s alibis.

In the heat of his 1992 re-election campaign, an angry President Bush accused the task force of waging a “witch hunt.” Obligingly, Hamilton and Hyde disclosed that partially redacted Secret Service records backed Bush's alibi, thus clearing him of suspicion.

However, Spencer Oliver, chief counsel to the House Foreign Affairs Committee, objected, asking why key sections of those records were blacked out; why one crucial entry asserted a trip to a Maryland country club that Bush never took; and why the identity of a person who supposedly met with Bush was withheld from the task force.

Oliver charged that the Bush administration was stonewalling

Hamilton’s treatment of Mr. Bush was outrageously deferential. But it was pit-bull-like compared to how he handled the attempts to provide the late Mr. Casey with an alibi.

The Republicans first insisted that Casey could not have flown to meet with the Iranians when it was alleged that he did, because on that particular weekend he had attended a historical conference in London.

But that alibi had to be ditched when historian and conference attendee Robert Dallek reported that Casey had missed a strategically timed morning session.

No problem.

A new alibi was introduced that instead placed Casey at California’s Bohemian Grove retreat. As it turned out, Casey had indeed stayed at the Bohemian Grove, only not on the decisive weekend.

Unfazed, Hamilton’s task force acted as if Casey's alibi remained solid and issued a report that exonerated both Casey and Bush.

Not long afterward, task force co-chair Henry Hyde acknowledged that Casey’s 1980 passport had vanished along with key pages in his personal calendar.

Unperturbed, Lee Hamilton penned a New York Times Op-Ed in which he cited Casey’s so-called alibi in insisting that the House task force’s report “should put the controversy to rest once and for all.”

Only later did journalist Robert Parry rummage through the task force’s records to discover a photograph of the 16 men who had been at the Bohemian Grove on that notorious weekend in the summer of 1980 in the company, it was claimed, of William Casey.

Casey was not in the photo, a fact that the task force had conveniently neglected to report.

etc. etc.
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