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Hocus Locus
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For better archiving. After ONE YEAR I discover this and see only ONE transcript ONE place. ((( To myself as much as others: as a movement we really must do better. Seek full text, type it if necessary, bundle with name, links, date, place -- and paste these precious things around. ))) Kind thanks to orlean's Journal, someone who knows the value of just hunkering down and typing it all in, I was about to...
| Quote: | Donna Marsh O'Connor
Mother of Vanessa Lang Langer who died near tower 2
worked on 93rd floor
11-Sep-2006: The National Press Club and 9/11 Press for Truth, carried on C-SPAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtsLZM8Ktx4
transcript kindly provided by orlean's Journal
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"this is my motivation (she holds up picture of her daughter). george w. bush says "god bless america". he already did. blessed us over and over and over again. and on that day--on that day--it was men who cursed us. not god. and it has been in the hands of men ever since, to investigate everything; the events leading up to, during, and the events post 9/11.
"i know, on a daily basis, the press covers the event post-9/11 but i feel, frankly, abandoned. if i question anything about the official story i'm called a conspiracy theorist. my daughter was on the 93rd floor of tower two and five minutes after the first plane hit she was on the phone to the park avenue office of regis business international where she worked, in the trade center offices. four or five months pregnant, depending on if you listen to the family myth or what the medical examiner told me when he looked at the fetal bones.
"she was at her desk, telling the park avenue office that the port authority police and those in the building were told they were safe, that they should stay at their desks.
"they were not safe. but she was almost saved. my daughter's body was one of only about 283 whole and intact bodies. the funeral director--they pulled her out of the rubble on september 24th--the funeral director told me, when they notified us on july 6th and he picked up her body, that she looked exactly as i would have expected her to look. so i asked to see her.
"and i did get support from hillary clinton's office, but my son-in-law wouldn't let me see her without him seeing her. and i couldn't put him through that.
"it took me four years for the courage to see those final pictures. this is a picture of my daughter without make-up. she would have been appalled to have been shown without make-up. she was stunning. and i always feared that her beauty would put her in danger.
"she went to work that day; in the glove compartment of her ford explorer--at that point in time the most dangerous car in america--i lectured her about that--was the positive pregnancy test kit. all she ever wanted was that child. all she ever wanted was the child who would be walking with me, five years old, today.
"roughly, about the time my daughter was on the phone to her park avenue office, thanks to paul thompson i know that is roughly the time that george w. bush--the president of this country--walked into a school to lecture to children. he didn't rush to command central. he didn't order evacuations of any of our major skyscrapers, including and especially tower two.
"my daughter was found ten feet from an alley, whole and intact. she wasn't crushed, she didn't fall. she had injuries--blunt trauma to her head, her neck, her femur. her autopsy report is public record.
"i have two sons; one of them, at the time, was her best friend--he was fourteen years old. and he spent september 12th researching all of the phone numbers of all of the emergency rooms in new york city because this was an impossibility--my daughter would have run for her life. my daughter would have run not to make her brothers the saddest human beings on the face of the planet.
"and all i asked for, when the first news reporter from my local area in upstate new york came to tell me she was going to allow me to tell a beautiful story of my daughter--all i asked that day was why could i not fly home from toronto but osama bin laden's family and some saudi nationals whose names i still don't know were flown out of the country in our airspace. i was grounded. they were not. i asked her that day: where was norad? where were our defense systems? and instead, she told the two minutes of the beautiful story i told about my fierce and loving daughter.
"and that's what it's been like for five years. the first thing members of the press always ask me and sometimes individual family members will ask me: where are the rest of the family members? why aren't you all questioning? and i will tell you that for five years, in my small community in upstate new york, i've been posing questions. and my kids have been loved by some and shunned by others because their mother is a "conspiracy theorist".
"i am not a theorist. i was a theorist at syracuse university for twenty two years when i taught writing and rhetoric and american public discourse and i can't do that anymore. i haven't seen my daughter in five years. except that she is the screen saver in my mind.
"and this government has made me a victim of conspiracy theories because they haven't answered fully, or allowed anyone to ask the true questions of september 11th.
"and that's what i'm asking from you today. for exposure.
"we are not crazy. we have questions. we demand answers. i don't want to be paternalized by my government. i am a parent. and i want to be able to raise the rest of my children to go to work, to live their lives, to do as rudy giuliani told us shortly after september 11th to save the economy...to go shopping. i want to tell them this is their land, this is their country.
"we are never again are going to be safe. we never were safe. there isn't a man or woman, politician, on this globe who can save us. but we can make ourselves safer by refusing to continue to cover up. don't look for stars to tell you the answers.
"we're asking for a new investigation into the events of september 11th and this time a truly bipartisan, global--with families invested from the beginning, middle and though out the end.
"god blessed america. and look what we did with it." |
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| What we did with America, after God blessed it, was Operation Gladio, or Operation PNAC. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: Re: A Fake she is not |
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This is what everyone is afraid of - a finely educated American woman who is a victim of the attacks on the 11th of September.
I am not American but
To me, in general, American women like her are the jewels compared to the rest of the rubbish on this topic. They will be the heroes who will get to the bottom of this mess. Patricularly it will not be Fintan Dunne, particularly not me nor any third party - but American women as such.
The whole discussion about what truely happened in the roots of 11. September is run in a very fake masculine design á la Tom Ford of Gucci fame both by the conspiracy theorists like Rense, Icke, those "the planet is worse than a prison" tabloid bloodline folks and the official goverment masters of the game from Charlie Rose to S. Colbert to the Bushes and so forth. Notice the fake masculinity of the truth-movement and of the supporters of the official story - there are many of other similiarities but this is the main one.
The fake masculinity is used to make the victims - essentialy all of the Western world- botth male and female - feel quilty about being victims and to make them shut up . It has many other uses, but that is how it goes.
It is how islam has the popularity it has - fake masculinity always wins the hearts of the stupid in short term compared to the balanced being of the world in existence of a free man. that's why moslems were choosen to attack the place in the first place. Fake males attacking the towers, a very male image, wiith airplanes - a very male tool (most airplane captains are men aren't they?) and so it goes on. It is not just convetional, from a certain point of view, it completely changes the view of reality of the supposed victims - the Western World.
Direct victims of the attacks are rare to speak up because they are most bombarded with the fake masculinity- so this is very rare indeed. It gives me satisfaction, that the things I dreamt of privately - in particular - educated American women speaking up about the attacks is becoming into fruition.
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| Wasn't the rubble shipped overseas very quickly? |
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| MichaelC wrote: | | Wasn't the rubble shipped overseas very quickly? |
* "ISRI Assists in Cleanup of Recyclable Metal at World Trade Center Site," PRNewswire, October 4, 2001.
"Most of the recyclable metal at ground zero is being sent to the Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island where law enforcement authorities survey the material for evidence. Only then is it released to a scrap processor under an existing long-term contract with the New York City Department of Sanitation to purchase and then recycle scrap metal. The scrap processor has established a processing center at Fresh Kills and has brought in mobile shears and torching equipment to cut down the metal. Additionally, two recent bid awards were made to scrap processing firms to recycle 50,000 tons of large structural beams. Under the terms of those awards, the beams will be taken from the World Trade Center site, loaded onto river barges and sent directly to the purchasers' facilities for recycling. These two scrap processors have already offloaded 20,000 tons of structural steel beams shipped by barge directly from ground zero to their facilities."
"ISRI members should be aware that federal investigators and New York City Police deem scrap metal from the World Trade Center to be crime scene evidence. As of this date, there are only two legal pathways by which scrap metal moves from ground zero of the World Trade Center. First, light iron and non-ferrous materials are being sent to the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island for forensic review. After the authorities have released the materials they are transferred to a scrap processor under contract with the New York City Department of Sanitation that existed prior to September 11, 2001. Second, two contracts for 25,000 tons each of heavy steel were awarded on a bid basis on September 26, 2001. These materials are being loaded onto barges for delivery to the winning bidders."
* James Glanz and Eric Lipton, "Experts Urging Broader Inquiry in Towers' Fall," New York Times, December 25, 2001:
"In calling for a new investigation, some structural engineers have said that one serious mistake has already been made in the chaotic aftermath of the collapses: the decision to rapidly recycle the steel columns, beams and trusses that held up the buildings. That may have cost investigators some of their most direct physical evidence with which to try to piece together an answer.
"Officials in the mayor's office declined to reply to written and oral requests for comment over a three-day period about who decided to recycle the steel and the concern that the decision might be handicapping the investigation.
"'The city considered it reasonable to have recovered structural steel recycled,' said Matthew G. Monahan, a spokesman for the city's Department of Design and Construction, which is in charge of debris removal at the site."
* Bill Manning, "$elling Out the Investigation," Fire Engineering, January 2002:
"For more than three months, structural steel from the World Trade Center has been and continues to be cut up and sold for scrap. Crucial evidence that could answer many questions about high-rise building design practices and performance under fire conditions is on the slow boat to China, perhaps never to be seen again in America until you buy your next car.
"Such destruction of evidence shows the astounding ignorance of government officials to the value of a thorough, scientific investigation of the largest fire-induced collapse in world history. I have combed through our national standard for fire investigation, NFPA 921, but nowhere in it does one find an exemption allowing the destruction of evidence for buildings over 10 stories tall."
* "Baosteel Will Recycle World Trade Center Debris," www.china.org, January 24, 2002:
"A shipment of scrap steel from New York's collapsed World Trade Center will arrive in Shanghai tomorrow, according to media reports. The steel was bought by Shanghai Baosteel Group Corp. and several other domestic mills, which are always eager to buy scrap metal.
"Baosteel Group, the nation's largest steel firm, has purchased 50,000 tons of the scrap steel from 'Ground Zero,' the ruins of the September 11 terrorist attack, at no more than US$120 each ton, according to yesterday's Beijing Youth Daily. ... Most of the scrap will be recycled into ingots, but part of the relics will be molded into WTC souvenirs, the paper said.
"Baosteel officials reached by Shanghai Daily, however, denied they will make keepsakes out of the debris, but declined to give more details of their plans, saying only that the scrap will be melted down and reprocessed into new steel products.
"Another shipment of 10,000 tons of scrap from the WTC arrived in India earlier this month, reported Shanghai Morning Post. The metal will be melted down and recycled into kitchenware and other household items, the paper said.
"India bought its lot at US$120 per ton from the New Jersey scrap processor Metal Management, which purchased 40,000 tons of the debris at an auction held by the New York City government. Dealers estimated that the WTC disaster created more than 300,000 tons of scrap metal."
* Amy C. Sims, "Recycling Trade Center Steel With Respect," Fox News, February 23, 2002:
"The Port Authority estimates more than 200,000 tons of steel was used in the World Trade Center's construction. Of that total, more than 168,000 tons has been salvaged from Ground Zero thus far, according to the New York City Office of Emergency Management.
"Three companies – Metal Management Northeast of Newark, N.J., Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City and Blandford Land Development Corporation of Brooklyn, N.Y. – have successfully bid for city contracts to recycle the steel, and continue to bid on what remains to be salvaged."
"There is also money to be made from the steel. Asian steel mills have already purchased more than 50,000 tons of it from scrap yards, and reportedly are pledging not to use it to create souvenirs."
* Testimony of Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, University of California, Berkeley, Before the Committee on Science of the U.S. House of Representatives, March 6, 2002; Hearing on "Learning from 9/11: Understanding the Collapse of the World Trade Center":
"Upon arrival to NYC on September 19, [2001] and after visiting Ground Zero and paying my respects and prayers to the victims, I started my reconnaissance and collection of the perishable data. I have collected some data on design and construction of the WTC and have met and discussed the case with the structural engineers who have designed the WTC Buildings. Thanks to cooperation of the HSNE recycling plant, I have been able to study the steel from the WTC before recycling. ... I wish I had more time to inspect steel structure and save more pieces before the steel was recycled."
Note: Hugo Neu Schnitzer East (HNSE) is "one of the world's largest recyclers and processors of scrap metals." [3]; Schnitzer Steel Industries: HNSE "operates both a ferrous and nonferrous metals recycling business in the Manhattan, NY and Jersey City, NJ corridor. The facility has multiple locations in the tri-state regions. HNSE sells its finished products in both the domestic and export markets." [4] (See Schnitzer Group.)
* "Probing Trade Center Collapse," AP (CBS News), March 7, 2002:
"The investigation into the collapse of the World Trade Center has been hampered by the destruction of steel wreckage that could hold vital clues about why the twin towers fell, a fire expert says. ... Glenn Corbett, a fire science professor at John Jay College, criticized New York City's decision to melt down and recycle tons of charred and twisted steel from the trade center." |
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