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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would view the Indian story of $100,000 as a red herring, but not necessarily a CIA red herring. India has its own quarrels with Pakistan. Saying that Indian intelligence reported something about Pakistan is like saying that Croatia in the 1990s reported charges against Serbia. There are many self-interested motives for the one state to report something bad on the other. Not every bit of disinfo has to come from the CIA.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Epilog 2 Reply with quote

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The failure to provide any meaningful protection on any of the above
points does indicate either massive security incompetence or collusion.


I'd put my money on collusion, as with most political assassinations. Someone on the inside of Bhutto's security had to make sure it was allowed to happen.

I don't know about most people but it did look like it was a long time before any of her security noticed a man with a gun until the shots were fired. It looked like her security were literally right next to the assassin and failed to see him raise his arm with a gun or even attempt to stop him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: We learn from our mistakes? Reply with quote

I guess they learned from the JFK op to deny assassination from the git go. That way you don't have to have an arrest, a trial, another assassination and then a commission to cover-up the cover-up, to say nothing of the disinfo that has to be spread afterwards...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Epilog 2 Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:


Lol. Yeah, pity people never get to that last onion layer of conspiracy.
But the planners make sure they never do.


I had a chat with a friend recently whom I was unaware of being, "aware" so to speak. I'd love to send him in the direction of this forum. He'd be a good addition.

He brought up issues such as 9/11 and Skull & Bones and I said something along the lines of "the whole package they manage for you seems so tabloid and comic book-like"

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"Because they want you to think you're crazy",
he said.

The whole "pebble at the window" scenario.

I see a lot of that in this assassination.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am starting to wonder if Bhutto is actually dead or was imprisoned before hand and the rest staged? I am also starting to wonder why Bhutto even appeared upon this stage at this time? I have my own opinions on this matter.
I know!!! I am an idiot, but when I look at the "HOCUS LOCUS" Post it makes me consider the anomalies in her presentation. Who she was and how she did things!

DAM! Hollywood may have lead me to the Matrix but I wonder a lot. I think a lot!!
Sometimes we wish to believe in the good but their may not be any good left in the society which needs to be posted amongst the mainstream.
Just putting my two cents forward.

The biggest OP would be a show which causes us to believe in the assassination of a leader who we wish would bring a country from dictatorship to democracy. Her death is no more than the extension on the war against or of terror. and it may now continue......

I am starting to wonder if Bhutto (even existed) ever really intended to free Pakistan of anything except it's resources and it's people. I think of the past and Bhutto in the same.

I am sorry for saying this (but I must be truthful) but I have a growing suspicion of hi-jinx here although it may seem convincing.
I see corruption abound and it is no wonder countries like Burma and Bangladesh are waiting in the wings to be taken by the newest colonization government of the N.W.O. That of the IMF and the World Bank along with the United nations which will be the arbiter of law.

I am jumping about because it is hard for me to fathom what pops into my head. It does disturb me when what they have created becomes so predictable.
Bhutto being the next story that I can not confirm nor dispute in a court of law so it becomes fact as we know it.

I wonder what kind of world we will live in when we can not have our day in court amongst our peers.
Who will review her remains and who are those men we may trust to do so?
How many men will we call Al-SOMETHING- AHH who are imprisoned that we have no way to confirm or deny?
When they tell me that they have arrested 6 terrorists do I follow this up to see if this is fact or just the power of the state?
I am so worried!!!!!
I buy none of it and it makes me shutter that anyone here would buy this propaganda.


I suggest we are living in a world of globalist control of our thoughts and minds which we must expunge ourselves.
Embarassed

I am one man who happens to think just a bit different from the story that has been bouncing around.
I do believe that we must all start to extricate ourselves from these deliberate atrocities before it's to late.

Think!
After Bhutto then who?
After Pakistan then What?

After all, the game must go on... NO?
It may eventually come to you!
NO?Shocked
Neutral

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I May Just Have To remain Silent"
Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wu Li wrote:
I am starting to wonder if Bhutto is actually dead or was imprisoned before hand and the rest staged? I am also starting to wonder why Bhutto even appeared upon this stage at this time? I have my own opinions on this matter.
I know!!! I am an idiot, but when I look at the "HOCUS LOCUS" Post it makes me consider the anomalies in her presentation. Who she was and how she did things!

DAM! Hollywood may have lead me to the Matrix but I wonder a lot. I think a lot!!
Sometimes we wish to believe in the good but their may not be any good left in the society which needs to be posted amongst the mainstream.
Just putting my two cents forward.

The biggest OP would be a show which causes us to believe in the assassination of a leader who we wish would bring a country from dictatorship to democracy. Her death is no more than the extension on the war against or of terror. and it may now continue......

I am starting to wonder if Bhutto (even existed) ever really intended to free Pakistan of anything except it's resources and it's people. I think of the past and Bhutto in the same.

I am sorry for saying this (but I must be truthful) but I have a growing suspicion of hi-jinx here although it may seem convincing.
I see corruption abound and it is no wonder countries like Burma and Bangladesh are waiting in the wings to be taken by the newest colonization government of the N.W.O. That of the IMF and the World Bank along with the United nations which will be the arbiter of law.

I am jumping about because it is hard for me to fathom what pops into my head. It does disturb me when what they have created becomes so predictable.
Bhutto being the next story that I can not confirm nor dispute in a court of law so it becomes fact as we know it.

I wonder what kind of world we will live in when we can not have our day in court amongst our peers.
Who will review her remains and who are those men we may trust to do so?
How many men will we call Al-SOMETHING- AHH who are imprisoned that we have no way to confirm or deny?
When they tell me that they have arrested 6 terrorists do I follow this up to see if this is fact or just the power of the state?
I am so worried!!!!!
I buy none of it and it makes me shutter that anyone here would buy this propaganda.


I suggest we are living in a world of globalist control of our thoughts and minds which we must expunge ourselves.
Embarassed

I am one man who happens to think just a bit different from the story that has been bouncing around.
I do believe that we must all start to extricate ourselves from these deliberate atrocities before it's to late.

Think!
After Bhutto then who?
After Pakistan then What?

After all, the game must go on... NO?
It may eventually come to you!
NO?Shocked
Neutral


All valid points. In the perfect op there is something for everyone. Was Bhutto 'real'? Did she really die? Wow.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here is the official denial. As they say, wait until something is officially denied...


It's all here: smell the lies, smell!

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Musharraf: Bhutto Death Not Our Fault

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIE0IUn4WIiaMBpjG8SI_6H5RXzgD8TUU4CG0

By MATTHEW PENNINGTON – 3 hours ago

4 January 2008

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — President Pervez Musharraf vehemently denied Thursday that Pakistan's military and intelligence agencies were behind Benazir Bhutto's killing, and implied she was partly at fault.

Despite threats by militants, Bhutto poked her head out of the sunroof of her vehicle to greet supporters at an election rally, Musharraf said.

He conceded there were shortcomings in Pakistan's investigation into the assassination but rejected accusations of a lapse in security for the former prime minister.

"The same military and intelligence agencies are using the same people who are attacking them? It's a joke," Musharraf said at a news conference, answering accusations that people connected to his government were involved in the suicide bomb and gun attack that killed Bhutto a week ago.

On Friday, British anti-terror officers arrived in Pakistan to join the investigation into Bhutto's assassination. The five officers from Scotland Yard's anti-terror division said nothing to reporters as they arrived at Islamabad's airport.


The president acknowledged that his decision to seek help from Scotland Yard was partly to reassure people at home and abroad that there was no government involvement. Bhutto had accused elements in the ruling party of plotting to kill her.

"Here's a situation where maybe we need to go beyond ourselves to prove to the world and our people here, who are emotionally charged, that we don't mind going to any extent, as nobody is involved from the government side or the agencies," Musharraf said.

Bhutto's killing plunged an already volatile Pakistan deeper into crisis and stoked fears of a political meltdown.

It triggered an outbreak of rioting that has left nearly 60 dead and caused more than a billion dollars in damage in the worst-hit province of Sindh, authorities say. It also forced a six-week delay in parliamentary elections, seen as key to restoring democracy after eight years of military rule since Musharraf took power in a 1999 coup. The vote is now set for Feb. 18.

The assassination also exposed the skepticism of Pakistan's 160 million people over what their rulers tell them after local media began broadcasting still frames and video that challenged the government account.

Bhutto's husband is demanding a U.N. probe.


Musharraf maintained Pakistan was capable of managing its own affairs and conducting the investigation, saying it was no "banana republic." But he acknowledged the government may have erred in giving a precise cause of death for Bhutto just a day after the Dec. 27 killing although no autopsy was conducted.

Musharraf said Bhutto had been told of the militant threats against her. And he denied that a security lapse led to her death, as four mobile units with 30 officers escorted her, and more than 1,000 police were deployed at the Rawalpindi rally where she was slain.

He implied her decision to greet cheering supporters by poking her head out of the sunroof of her vehicle contributed to her death, adding that those who stayed inside were unharmed.

"Who is to be blamed for her coming out of her vehicle?" he asked.

The Interior Ministry claimed the force of the suicide blast caused Bhutto's head to strike a metal lever on the sunroof of her SUV. Her party says she died from gunshot fired from just a few yards away before the blast — an account seemingly supported by video footage.

"One should not give a statement that's 100 percent final. That's the flaw that we suffer from," Musharraf said, noting that more evidence was emerging on the attack. "We needed more experience, maybe more forensic and technical experience that our people don't have. Therefore, I thought Scotland Yard may be more helpful."

He conceded other shortcomings in Pakistan's handling of the case, including the hosing down of the bomb site — a cleanup widely seen as undermining a detailed forensic examination. But he dismissed any suggestion there was a plan to conceal evidence.

"I'm not fully satisfied. I will accept that. Cleaning the area, why did they do that? If you are meaning they did that by design, I would say no. It's just inefficiency, people thinking things have to be cleared, traffic has to go through," he said.

A senior police investigator, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the inquiry, said police had secured key evidence from the scene, including the head of the suspected bomber, body parts, two pistols, and mobile phones. He said Scotland Yard investigators could help determine whether either pistol had been fired in the attack.

Musharraf blamed Taliban militant leaders Baitullah Mehsud and Maulana Fazlullah, also believed linked to al-Qaida, for a wave of suicide attacks.

The government already had accused Mehsud of orchestrating the Bhutto attack — which a Mehsud spokesman has denied. The day after the killing, the government published what it said was a communications intercept in which Mehsud congratulated some of his men.

The president, a key ally of Washington in its war on terrorism, said killing Mehsud — who in the intercept gave his location as the town of Makin in the lawless tribal region of South Waziristan — was no easy matter. It would require action by a division of troops and would cause many civilian casualties, he said.

"He's in South Waziristan agency and let me tell you that getting him in this place means battling thousands of his followers," Musharraf said. "It will cause collateral damage."

Still, the president denied that al-Qaida was getting stronger in Pakistan.

He said they existed in "penny pockets" despite reports from U.S. intelligence that the terror network's leadership has regrouped in Waziristan.

Musharraf described al-Qaida as financiers of terrorism but saw the main threat as coming from its "facilitators" — Taliban militants who also operate in Afghanistan.

He said Pakistan needed political reconciliation to fight terrorism, and he hoped the Feb. 18 elections would haul the country out of its current crisis.

"This is the greatest threat Pakistan has and we have to have political reconciliation to fight it together," he said.

But the opposition persisted Thursday with its calls for Musharraf to resign.

"Free and fair polls are impossible under his leadership," said Javed Hashmi, a senior member of the party of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif who was ousted in Musharraf's 1999 coup.

International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based think tank, said that unless Musharraf steps down from the presidency, "the international community could face the nightmare of a nuclear-armed, Muslim country descending into civil war."

In a new report, it called on the United States to recognize that Musharraf was "a serious liability, seen as complicit" in Bhutto's death.




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On Friday, British anti-terror officers arrived in Pakistan to join the investigation into Bhutto's assassination. The five officers from Scotland Yard's anti-terror division said nothing to reporters as they arrived at Islamabad's airport.


The president acknowledged that his decision to seek help from Scotland Yard was partly to reassure people at home and abroad that there was no government involvement. Bhutto had accused elements in the ruling party of plotting to kill her.

"Here's a situation where maybe we need to go beyond ourselves to prove to the world and our people here, who are emotionally charged, that we don't mind going to any extent, as nobody is involved from the government side or the agencies," Musharraf said.


Why the fuck are they involving spooks from the Scotland Yard anti-terror division in this investigation? I guess it must be because of their experience and proven track record in relation to the G8 bombings in London.
Why can't they use normal police and professional investigators?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I am what the terrorists most fear" said Bhutto in her last interview published in the cover story in Parade Magazine distributed in US papers last Sunday. My my, synchronicity abounds....these goons don't miss a beat, do they?

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jan/07bhutto2.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: It always comes back to the Bush syndicate Reply with quote

Benazir Bhutto was a made-for-tv martyr. Made, was she, by our disreputable mainstream media. She was lured to Pakistan to be killed, not to be its new leader. Were you to judge her popularity by the crowds of people surrounding her, you might be fooled into thinking that she was a much-loved figure in that country. 70% per cent of Pakistan’s people live in poverty, yet during her two terms as the Prime Minister, she did nothing to help the poor. She was schooled at Radcliff, Harvard and Oxford, and lived in obscene luxury—a sharp contrast to the poor of Pakistan that the media tells us “adored her”. There is certainly no doubt that the monied class of Pakistanis held her in high regard. They have their “Republicans”, too, after all. While Prime Minster, she and her husband were a conduit for graft and corruption, just as the Bush administration is today toward their favored corporations and party donors.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0CE5D91F30F93AA35752C0A96E958260

She was in favor of recognizing Israel and normalizing relations with that country. She had also asked the Mossad for protection from her enemies. http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=14909
The Israeli government considered her request, but rejected it in the end, unwilling to anger ally and nuclear power India.

It would have been much easier for the Bush cabal to control Pakistan’s resources and finances with Bhutto in power as she was staunchly pro-American. That was the only reason favorable to the Bush administration in having Bhutto as Prime Minister. She did not enjoy the support of the military, as Musharraf does, and without that, what would bring stability to the country and protect its nuclear arsenal? Then too, consider removing yet another Arab country from Israel’s enemies list. What justification then, to maintain troops in the middle east, and to continue sending aid to that country if there is no threat from its neighbors?

With a Bhutto assassination, al-Qaeda and the Taliban can both be blamed, Musharraf’s government is further destabilized (as the Bush administration has been trying to do for months now) and another military strongman can be installed in his place. This is what the Bush cabal really wants—not a civilian. They want no chance that Pakistan will settle down into a subservient lapdog, further eroding the justification for keeping our military bogged down in the middle east. But, neither do they want Pakistan to spiral completely out of control—and out of their control. Only a military dictator can walk that line, and Musharraf, while still adequate for this purpose, has for some reason fallen out of favor with the Bushies. Look how quickly Bush dispatched more troops to Pakistan. Why do we have troops there if Musharraf is firmly in control?

Bhutto said during a recent interview with David Frost, that Osama bin-Laden was dead. You know as well as I that there are plenty of powerful people in Israel and the US who would not want her to talk about that again. Another justification for keeping our troops where they are. They need that bogey man!

Bush need only keep his mouth shut about this event to weather the immediate repercussions—but Bhutto’s sudden death is good for the Bush crime family any way you look at it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More British police to help probe Bhutto's assassination in Pakistan


www.chinaview.cn 2008-01-09 21:39:06

Special report: Benazir Bhutto assassinated

ISLAMABAD, Jan. 9 (Xinhua) -- Another group of Scotland Yard investigators arrived in Pakistan Wednesday to assist in the inquiry into the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, the News Network International news agency reported.


The three-member team would join their seven colleagues who have been in Pakistan since Jan. 4, said the report.

The British police have been providing technical assistance to Pakistani investigators to hold inquiry into the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, who was killed on Dec. 27 after she addressed a big public meeting in the garrison city of Rawalpindi.

President Pervez Musharraf said last week he was "not fully satisfied" with the investigation into the killing by the Pakistani police and had requested to the British prime minister to send Scotland Yard detectives.

Bhutto's People's Party (PPP) has called for a wider inquiry by the United Nations. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon said on Monday that Pakistan had not approached the UN for Bhutto's murder probe.

The team from Scotland Yard has visited the scene of Ms Bhutto's murder [assassination, shurely? atm] and also recorded statements of an injured police officer on duty as well as injured party activists. They have also examined the bullet-proof car of Bhutto and body parts of the suicide bomber.

The Scotland Yard called on Musharraf on Tuesday and sought his support for their investigation. Musharraf assured the British police that he wanted to reach the bottom as to who were behind Bhutto's assassination.
on

Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema said there were no restrictions on the movement of the British police and that they could stay as long as they wanted.

There has been different accounts of what caused Bhutto's death. Local media quoted PPP sources as saying that Bhutto was killed by gun shots. While an initial government report said she was killed by smashing her head on the sunroof lever of her vehicle when dodging the attack.


Lever it out, mate. FFS.

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