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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: post-WorldWar II Genocides (Samantha Power SUCKS) thread Reply with quote

(post moved from History or Science thread since its not chronology-related)

Cracrocrates wrote:
PatrickSMcNally wrote:
abcar wrote:
May i ask, how you came to be so interested in this particular subject of the Holocaust, and is it your primary focus? Or is it only a part of a much broader area of study by you?

....
I certainly had noticed before then that it was effectively used as a rational for war and much else. Saddam Hussein in 1990 wasn't labeled as a "kike," he was identified as "another Hitler." In Serbia the argument was that "Milosevich is committing another Holocaust!" One has to be blind to not see that this is one of the most principal arguments made in support of war on multiple occasions.


OH SHIT.
We are the Fourth Reich, aren't we?
And, by "we," I mean PLANET EARTH.
The Current Leadership of the Human Species is the Fourth Reich.
FUCK!
FUCK!
FUCK!
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So there are genocides/mass murders going on RIGHT NOW or really PERIODICALLY EVER SINCE WORLD WAR II, uh, was supposed to end...yet the disinfo NWO have us sheeple still debating death figures from way back in WWII...BECAUSE THAT'S HOW CRIPPLED WE FEEL ABOUT TODAY'S INJUSTICES. What, just earlier this year or last year, Western media was talking about Iran's Ahmadinejad debating Holocaust numbers while debating if he was anti-Jewish, WHILE THE MEDIA'S CONTROLLERS FORCED JOURNALISTS TO AVOID THE CURRENT MASS MURDERS RIGHT NEXT DOOR IN IRAQ.

Well, MattMarriott may be more fringe than even most of this thread, but I like some (though not all) of his opinions on ethnic mass murders of World War II:
Quote:
http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/t121712-jewish-holocaust-denial-agenda-for-dummies-the-one-basic-fact.html

Why is the number of 6 million STILL prevail in peoples mind when even the Jews themselves now officialy admit that the number is lower?
The number of people that were exterminated is NOT the issue at stake. It does not matter if it was three million or six million. The psy-op work of rewriting History includes convincing people that questioning that number is part of exposing the holocaust as a hoax.

BTW, diverting into the discussion of that number is also part of the psy-op work of "NO principles", i.e. convincing people that you can quantify a fundamental value that is above any numbers, in this case the value of human life.


(NOTE: MattMarriott says Zundel is just a hoax...which he may be according to other stuff I've read. I doubt that Rudolf is a hoax though and Marriott does not mention Rudolf, which is probably why he was deported and jailed. Rudolf has a phD in chemistry which made him potentially more dangerous than Zundel...no matter what he was debating.Serious people, like Finkelstein, at a minimum lose their jobs.)
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With all the psyops and mass media games and false history for perhaps centuries, we're trying to debate, including in this thread, what is real...with the knowledge that it's hard enough to figure out what's happening right now.

If anybody wants to read a big steaming pile of dogshit, read Samantha Power's "A Problem from Hell": America and the Age of Genocide (2003) for whitewashing 20th century murders using the Establishment tactics of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. It goes something like "oh well, America was very very bad for not stopping that particular genocide, but we should 've" and "Oh no! The U.S. doesn't want to sign a U.N. Convention against Genocide, how very very bad, how immoral!" while usually avoiding outright Pentagon/Corporate/G8 complicities in the mass murders. And I think she skipped some genocides as well.
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LET ME MENTION A PIECE OF FALSE CURRENT HISTORY CONCERNING IRAQ THAT I HAVE NOT YET MENTIONED ON BFN
(I guess the only current history that I have mentioned to date that I was witness to was a death from prescribed poisons for "treating" AIDS http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22653#22653 )

This may not be surprising, but it's still official lies about current history.

Here's the mainstream version, which understates the reality:
Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Iraq
In the 1990s, after the First Gulf War, was this period
In addition to the inspection regimen, the United States and the United Kingdom (along with France until 1998) engaged in a low-level conflict with Iraq by enforcing northern and southern Iraqi no-fly zones. These zones were created following the Persian Gulf War to protect the Iraqi Kurdistan in the north and the southern Shia areas, and were seen by the Iraqi government as an infringement of Iraq's sovereignty. Iraqi air-defense installations and American and British air patrols regularly exchanged fire during this period.

Well, I used to know someone who had a family member stationed in Iraq in the mid-to-late 1990s I think (this conversation happened only once and wasn't mentioned again, obviously). The family back home received some disturbing letters. The U.S. was bombing Iraq. A LOT. So much that the family member in Iraq was expressing PANIC like "we're not supposed to being doing this right now, but that's what we've been told to do." So I guess that means AIR RAIDS. LOT'S OF THEM. IN IRAQ. IN THE MID-TO-LATE 1990s. WAY AFTER GULF WAR ONE & WAY BEFORE 9/11/2001.

What or who or why were they bombing exactly?
I don't know.
Your guess is as good as mine.
But it doesn't sound good.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Uncle Samantha Reply with quote

Uncle Samantha

So, Samantha Power's solution to genocide is "more U.S. intervention," after showing conclusively that the U.S. Empire's actions are to not care about mass murders in general. So, the ONLY BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT I would giver her book is that it at least gives some twisted examples of the U.S. not caring. HOWEVER, it does not EVER mention U.S. or Western COMPLICITY in any 20th century mass murders....including the OBVIOUS ONES WHERE THE U.S. BOMBED THE SHIT OUT OF THIRD WORLD NATIONS. So, how the FUCK could the solution to third world genocide be intervention from the same entity that CAUSED a number of mass murders in the first place. HER BOOK IS GIVING THE STATE DEPARTMENT FURTHER LIES TO BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF MORE NATIONS BY SAYING "Oh noes..its genocide, we have to go save those people" SO THEN WE CAN BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM TO "SAVE" THEM

So, maybe for her next book, Uncle Samantha should do the following case studies:
KOREA IN THE 1950s,
VIETNAM IN THE 1960s,
IRAQ IN THE 1990s,
IRAQ IN THE 2000s

Quote:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1417701188
During the three years (1993-1996) Samantha Power spent covering the grisly events in Bosnia and Srebrenica, she became increasingly frustrated with how little the United States was willing to do to counteract the genocide occurring there. After much research, she discovered a pattern: "The United States had never in its history intervened to stop genocide and had in fact rarely even made a point of condemning it as it occurred," she writes in this impressive book. Debunking the notion that U.S. leaders were unaware of the horrors as they were occurring against Armenians, Jews, Cambodians, Iraqi Kurds, Rwandan Tutsis, and Bosnians during the past century, Power discusses how much was known and when, and argues that much human suffering could have been alleviated through a greater effort by the U.S. She does not claim that the U.S. alone could have prevented such horrors, but does make a convincing case that even a modest effort would have had significant impact. Based on declassified information, private papers, and interviews with more than 300 American policymakers, Power makes it clear that a lack of political will was the most significant factor for this failure to intervene. Some courageous U.S. leaders did work to combat and call attention to ethnic cleansing as it occurred, but the vast majority of politicians and diplomats ignored the issue, as did the American public, leading Power to note that "no U.S. president has ever suffered politically for his indifference to its occurrence. It is thus no coincidence that genocide rages on." This powerful book is a call to make such indifference a thing of the past. --Shawn Carkonen --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


For at least a relatively mainstream body count,
Matt White's site is useful: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstats.htm

I don't really agree with his conclusion that there is no causal pattern to which nations had mass murders or not, but at least he tells us where his numbers come from. And his list helps shows some mass murders UNCLE SAMANTHA CHOSE NOT TO TALK ABOUT.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/demowar.htm
"Democracies Do Not Make War on One Another...or Do They?"

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-1900.htm

Quote:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-1900.htm
Wars, Massacres and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century

Year-by-Year Death Toll:






Percentage of national populations killed in specific episodes of mass brutality:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: "Depopulation as Policy" essay by Keith Harmon Sno Reply with quote

"Depopulation as Policy" essay by Keith Harmon Snow

For newer BFN members, there was a Fintan audio and discussion with Keith Harmon Snow here "Genocide - the NWO Racist Agenda"
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2666&highlight=genocide

Here's an essay from Snow's website, ridiculing Uncle Samantha's research and other researchers who selectively choose which genocides they study (or at least selectively choose the REASONS for the genocides).

Quote:
http://www.allthingspass.com/uploads/html-52Depopulation%20As%20Policy.htm

depopulation as policy

Or,
How the despair and death of millions of African people
is daily determined by the lifestyle of ordinary Americans,
in small town USA,
with nary a word of truth in the US press, if anything at all,
and why most of us know nothing about it,
and do nothing to stop it when we do know.


keith harmon snow

www.allthingspass.com

(This report was written in 2003.)



I am dead serious about the subtitle to this story.

I am also mocking one of the most popular books on genocide in Rwanda: We wish to inform you that tomorrow we will be killed with our families. Author Philip Gourevitch is staff writer for the New Yorker, and through his selective forays into the heart of darkness he has secured a partial monopoly on the discussion about Rwanda, and the silences in between. Given Rwanda’s pivotal role in fomenting terror there, this silence extends to the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC).

Dissent is intolerable to those who have something to hide, and so the discussion about terrorism in Africa remains proscribed by academia, the media, and other institutions of American empire. Africa is off the agenda. People are getting away with murder, because they know they can, and the media doesn’t report it, because they know they don’t have to. They are some of the same people.

Do the facts even matter? Is there any point in naming names herein?

Start counting in 1998 and the number of dead in DRC exceeds four million. Start counting in 1990 and it might exceed six million. Through all the killing there are the tireless African defenders of human rights in Africa: the citizen’s groups, the students, the mothers, the brave men and women whom have stood up and said “enough” to the total expropriation of their existence. They have been slaughtered with impunity by the thousands. We almost never hear about it.

No one in the international community is talking about it. No one is listening. Torture is commonplace. Refugees have been massacred. Innocent men, women and children have been slaughtered. Civil society is under attack. Children have been forcibly recruited as soldiers. Government is sowing terror. Government is getting away with murder, mutilation and rape. The preceding sentences are the actual titles or subtitles of major human rights reports issued over the past decade. All are applicable today.

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In 1990, the now President of Rwanda, Maj. Gen. Paul Kagame – a powerful Ugandan -- returned from training at the U.S. Army’s Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, to lead the first U.S. supported invasion of Rwanda by the army of the Rwanda Patriotic Front (RPF). Kagame is identified with the Tutsi tribe, but this is a meaningless social construction serving the western media theme of “African conflicts by African people” (a.k.a. tribalism, yet again).

When the plane carrying the Hutu president of Rwanda and Burundi was shot down over the Rwandan capital on April 6, 1994, all hell broke loose. It was a calculated hell, the Hutu war machine, but it was expected, and it is not a question of whether the U.S. knew what was happening or not. Philip Gourevitch entered the hell and he focused American eyes on “the genocide” – the “slaughter of about 800,000 Tutsis by the extremist Hutu government in 100 days.”

Under cover of “the genocide” from April to August 1994 – and a total U.S. media propaganda blitz – Kagame and the RPF invaded and secured Rwanda. Hundreds of thousands of killings attributed to “the genocide” were committed by RPF forces in 1994. So began the contre-genocide.

Philip Gourevitch gained the confidence of the RPF, and Paul Kagame, now president of Rwanda, is a trusted friend. Gourevitch also has the ear of Uganda’s president-for-life, Yoweri Museveni. He is an apologist for the RPF and the Uganda People’s Defense Forces (UPDF). He has provided cover for U.S. covert operations in central Africa, and for crimes against humanity by U.S. officials and proxy agents, and he knows it, and so do his New Yorker editors.

The RPF, the UPDF, and the killings, spread to DRC, with total U.S. military support. Albright, Clinton, Bush Sr., the national security apparatus – all had extensive knowledge prior to April 1994 about the Hutu plan to exterminate their enemies. The U.S. did not merely let “the genocide” happen, they assisted. Ditto for the DRC.

Philip Gourevitch won the National Book Critics Circle Award circa 1995. He proceeded to spin the fiction in Central Africa during the U.S. supported invasions of DRC (Zaire). In “Continental Shift,” in the New Yorker (8/4/97), he extolled the virtues of the “new brand” of African leaders: Paul Kagame, Yoweri Museveni and Laurent Kabila, so-called “Marxist leader of the Congolese rebellion.” It was the old “Africa by and for the Africans” theme.

Gourevitch further expropriated the discussion about central Africa with “The Genocide Fax,” which coincidentally appeared in The New Yorker, May 11, 1998, the same week that the U.S. congress was holding hearings about “the genocide” in Rwanda. Reports have it that mysterious “Genocide Fax” came to Gourevitch’s fax machine from his brother-in-law, Jamie Rubin, Assistant Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright's senior press attache’ and right-hand man. Philip Gourevitch spread disinformation about the RPF and UPDF bombings of refugee camps in Eastern Zaire, and the lies were institutionalized after Rubin arranged for his future wife, Christiane Amanpour, to tell the same story from Rwanda/Zaire border in November 1996. Amanpour was reporting for CNN. [ii]

The U.S. defense and intelligence apparatus recruited Gourevitch’s “new leaders” – along with John Garang, leader of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army -- but Gourevitch omitted such facts. Kabila was later assassinated for offending his sponsors -- Military Professional Resources Inc. (MPRI), Bechtel, Halliburton, the Morgan banks, the Clintons and the Bushes. A private military company out of Washington, D.C., MPRI is comprised of scores of former U.S. defense and intelligence chiefs who have nothing better to do than foment war and genocide.

Zaire was invaded in August 1996, immediately after Paul Kagame visited the Pentagon to check his battle plans, and following George H.W. Bush’s telephone call to his long-time partner-in-crime Mobutu Sese Seko. Bush was securing the mining interests of his Barrick Gold Corporation, and those of his Swedish comrade Adolph Lundin. MPRI, and a handful of Israeli military experts, advised the “rebel” forces. All hell broke loose, again, and the second U.S. supported invasion of DRC began in 1998. According to independent counts by the International Rescue Committee and the National Academy of Sciences, some 3.5 million people died in DRC between August 1998 and June 2001. The counting stopped there, but the killing didn’t.

The U.S. is the leading arms dealer in central Africa, for example, and we are not talking about the specter of machetes magnified by the media, but about the planes, helicopters, mortars, M-16s and tanks supplied by the U.S. and U.S. client states. Such weapons are anathema to the selective and savage re-presentations by TIME photographer James Nachtwey and writer Philip Gourevitch. Imagine depictions of cowboys and injuns in America’s wild, wild west that leave out the gattling guns! (Which they did, by the way.) And the smallpox! (Ditto.)

By 1995, Halliburton subsidiary Brown and Root had set up military bases in Rwanda. Meanwhile, back in Clintonville, international gangster Jean Raymond Bouelle was setting up America Mineral Fields Corporation in Hope, Arkansas, signing mining contracts in DRC and Sierra Leone. U.S. Special Forces assisted the RPF and UPDF, and their Congolese allies, in the U.S. proxy wars for the Congo. The Bouelle companies continue to pillage Africa under cover of war and executive privilege.

The U.S. provided military support and training for all sides under International Military Education and Training (IMET & E-IMET), Joint Combined Exchange Training (JCET) and the Africa Crises Response Initiative. These programs involve psychological operations, tortures, massacres and disappearing as standard operating procedure. They continue, no matter the brutality of the regimes.

The International Criminal Tribunal on Rwanda (ICTR) is a sham designed to dispense victor’s justice. The U.S. Department of Defense has loaned members of the military Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps to aid the UN prosecution team in Rwanda. A secret internal U.N. memorandum from 1997 revealed the names of the RPF “Network” responsible for the terrorist attack on the Rwandan presidential Falcon Mystere aircraft.[iii] The U.S. has blocked all efforts at an international investigation of the assassination; the U.N. remains equally mute. The ICTR has not indicted a single RPF soldier.

Now, 2003, in advance of coming elections in Rwanda, the Kagame government is disappearing people who resist forcible recruitment into the RPF party.[iv] While the western media has advertised RPF troop removals from DRC, RPF soldiers have donned uniforms of rebel DRC militias and they continue to perpetrate atrocities on civilians. The RPF has interned thousands of inmates (arrested for “the genocide”) in concentration camps in DRC, slave labor for mining operations. They have organized and armed new militias.

The contre-genocide continues. April 2003, the eastern DRC city of Bunia was devastated by RPF military operations. New tribes are involved, the Hema and Lendu tensions inflamed by UPDF and RPF and -- most certainly -- by U.S. Special Forces. There have been massacres of hundreds of people, lasting days at a time. Civilians have been herded into houses and set on fire. George H.W. Bush’s Barrick Gold runs a concession at the nearby Kilo-Moto goldfields. One of those Israeli military advisers runs another.

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Philip Gourevitch is not alone in obfuscating genocide. Alison des Forges compiled the mammoth text Leave None to Tell the Story: Genocide in Rwanda for Human Rights Watch. Some insist that Des Forges works with the U.S. intelligence apparatus (CIA, DIA, NSA), but I can say only that Human Rights Watch has become increasingly compromised,[v] that Des Forges exonerated the RPF, that she cleared the U.S. of war crimes. Like Gourevitch, Des Forges reported from the ranks of the RPF, where access to battlefields, massacres and information was tightly managed and, in keeping with the Jessica Lynch charade in Iraq, selectively manufactured. (Des Forges’ recent reports criticizing the Kagame government are not evidence of objectivity.) Amnesty International also bought the sanitized U.S. version.

Another pillar of the popular mythology,When Victims Become Killers: Colonialism, Nativism and the Genocide in Rwanda, was published in 2001 by Mahmood Mamdani, Director of the African Studies Institute at Columbia University. “Accounts of the genocide, whether academic or popular, suffer from three silences,” Mamdani wrote, aptly, his beacon of illumination selectively steered away from the skeletons in U.S. closets.

Mamdani gave the Fifth Annual Eqbal Ahmed Lecture at Hampshire College in 2003, and his talk mirrored his book, ignoring the clandestine U.S. role in dispensing terrorism, and peddling “the genocide” in Rwanda. Chronicles of Higher Education lauded Mamdani’s work, calling it controversial, and they further situated “the genocide” in Rwanda. (The Chronicles’ editors declined an article from this writer.)

Boston Globe war reporter Elizabeth Neuffer was another peddler of selective genocides. Her book, [i]The Key to My Neighbor's House: Seeking Justice in Bosnia and Rwanda, published by the Council on Foreign Relations, was written under a CFR Intelligence Fellowship.
She is “the bravest reporter out there working for the American media today,” said former U.S. News & World Report reporter Samantha Power, who shared a public forum with Neuffer at the Kennedy Library in February 2003. However, Neuffer was a defense insider who reported from Rwanda after the RPF came to power in 1994. (Neuffer died in a car crash while reporting from Iraq in 2003.)

One of the primary intellectual archeologists persevering in the forensic reconstruction of “the genocide,” Samantha Power is a Lecturer in Public Policy at Harvard’s JFK School of Government. Powers’ ostensible expose, “Bystanders to Genocide: Why the United States Let the Rwandan Tragedy Happen,” appeared in the Atlantic Monthly in September 2001. Prefaced with a note designed to underscore the veracity of her effort -- the author’s exclusive interviews with scores of the participants in the decision-making, together with her analysis of a cache of newly declassified documents, yield a chilling narrative of self-serving caution and flaccid will – and countless missed opportunities to mitigate a colossal crime – the story was eclipsed by a pair of jetliners crashing into Manhattan. If Power, in earnest, interviewed scores of participants, then they were the wrong people. She asked all the right questions in any case.

Samantha Power exonerates U.S. officials, even as she pretends to challenge them. “What is most remarkable about the American response to the Rwanda Genocide,” she wrote, “is not so much the absence [emphasis added] of U.S. military action as that during the entire genocide the possibility of U.S. military intervention was never even debated.” Nothing could be further from the truth. More chilling is “her analysis of a cache of newly declassified documents” as anything other than superficial memos, outright fabrications, or decoy documents.


February 5, 2001, Paul Kagame spoke at the Kennedy School of Government. While at Harvard, Kagame worked with a faculty-led Rwanda Working Group, including directors, faculty, staff and students of the Carr Center for Human Rights – founded by Samantha Power.

In December 2002, the Harvard Africa Students Association invited me to lecture at Harvard on “blood” diamonds and war in Africa. The lecture was at first postponed, after organizers reviewed my outline. The invitation was withdrawn in January 2003. “We are afraid you will not stay on topic,” organizers told me directly, “We are not a political organization. We don’t want you to talk about covert operations or the CIA.”

On March 5, 2003 Paul Kagame spoke at an AIDS luncheon sponsored by pharmaceutical giant Pfizer. Pfizer director Constance Horner is former White House staff member for George H.W. Bush, and a current DOD advisor; director William R. Howell is a director of Halliburton and Exxon-Mobil; director Henry A. McKinnell is a director of Exxon-Mobil and a (2003) member of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS.

March 10, 2003, Paul Kagame again visited Harvard University.

Samantha Power expanded her genocide findings in A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide, winner of a 2003 Pulitzer Prize. She later spoke at a Mount Holyoke College lecture sponsored by the Five College International Relations Program and the Mount Holyoke Program on Critical and Social Thought. Repeated telephone and email requests to Samantha Power, seeking an interview, at Harvard, have been ignored.

I have heard refugees (victims and survivors), journalists, defense lawyers at the ICTR, and humanitarian relief workers call these Rwanda “experts” liars, and other unflattering things. In their reconstructions of “the genocide,” they have omitted crucial facts and ignored the atrocities committed by those whose cooperation insured the success of their ventures. Their work is as selective and narrow as the themes of tribalism and hopelessness ever regurgitated by the major media.

The New York Times, L.A. Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, TIME, and U.S. News & World Report provided the daily base of perception management for these conflicts. It is not merely anecdotal that Pulitzer Prize judges include numerous editors, directors and publishers from these major venues, and their affiliates, and both the President and Dean of Columbia University.

Neither is it anecdotal that Kagame’s RPF government is tight with Royal Dutch/Shell. Shell bought arms for the Nigerian military. Shell director Paul Skinner is also a director of Rio Tinto, Inc, a major mining and mercenaries conglomerate. Shell director Sir Peter Job is a long-time director of Reuters. Shell director Sir Mark Moody-Stuart is a director of Anglo-American, the Oppenheimer and DeBeers mining conglomerate entrenched in diamonds, copper and cobalt in DRC, Angola and Sierra Leone. Moody-Stuart is also a member of a U.N. Secretary General’s Advisory board, and that is one reason for the irrelevance of the U.N. Security Council. Royal Dutch/Shell also has an ongoing corporate partnership with the Atlantic Monthly.[vi]

*

President Joseph Kabila (DRC) is the new Mobutu, supported by the western intelligence apparatus. President Yoweiri Museveni is the new Idi Amin, responsible for state terror against the people of Uganda, DRC, Rwanda, Sudan and Central African Republic (C.A.R.). A flashpoint for organized crime and terrorism, Uganda has been the pearl of Washington since Museveni came to power in 1987.

Paul Kagame was received at the White House on March 3, 2003. He later spoke at the James Baker Institute, in Houston, where he met with his patron, George H.W. Bush. Baker Institute advisor Charles W. Duncan Jr. is director of Coca Cola and French oil giant Elf-Aquitaine – corporations reaping major profits from DRC. He is also a director of the New York Times (and former Deputy Secretary of Defense, 1977-1979, and Secretary, Department of Energy, 1979-1981). Former editor and director of the New York Times Leslie H. Gelb is a Baker Institute advisor, and a director of the Council on Foreign Relations, where Paul Kagame spoke in February, 2001. New York Times director John F. Akers retains close ties to long-time Halliburton executive Thomas H. Cruikshank.

Maurice Templesman is a deep-pockets contributor to the Democratic Party, tight with the CIA, who has helped orchestrate depopulation as policy in Congo/Zaire for half a century.[vii] Templesman was entrenched with Mobutu, and Lawrence Devlin, CIA Chief of Station in Zaire, worked for Templesman (1973-1988). Templesman and his lover Jacqueline Onasis sailed with the Clinton’s off Martha’s Vineyard before Onasis died of cancer (1994), and he joined the Clinton’s on their 1998 Africa tour.

Through Leon Templesman & Son and Lazare Kaplan International, and with the support of mercenary firms like MPRI, Sandline International and Executive Outcomes, local warlords like Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone), Gnassingbe Eyadema (Togo), Charles Taylor (Liberia), Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe), Paul Kagame and Bill Clinton (USA), Templesman businesses proliferate in Angola, DRC, Sierra Leone and C.A.R. – all absolutely devastated by so-called “civil” war. Indeed, Templesman agents worked directly with Foday Sankoh and Charles Taylor, a key fact absent from the major National Public Radio exposes on war and “blood” diamonds in West Africa that began airing in early June 2003.[viii] RPF, UPDF and the Congolese “rebels” under Jean Piere Bemba routinely ship diamonds out to Brussels.

Templesman was Bill Clinton’s guest on Air Force One in 1996, when Templesman chaired the Corporate Council on Africa. Hillary Rodham Clinton later wrote the forward for Witness to Genocide: The Children of Rwanda, a book of children’s drawings that includes “a compelling chapter by Rwandan Ambassador to the U.S. Dr. Richard Sezibera, a doctor in the army of the Rwanda Patriotic Front which brought the genocide to an end.” (Emphasis added.)

CCA members include Halliburton (Dick Cheney); Lazare Kaplan; Chevron-Texaco (Condoleeza Rice); Exxon-Mobil; Asea Brown Baveri (Donald Rumsfeld); Cargill; Archer Daniels Midland; Jean Raymond Bouelle Companies; defense giants McDermott, Sikorsky, Northrup Grumman, GE, Raytheon, Boeing and SAIC (Science Applications International Corporation); and the International Herald Tribune.

SAIC, like Bechtel, is involved in black programs, at the heart of the intelligence and defense apparatus, and deeply entrenched in DRC. Indeed, SAIC is but the tip of the defense and intelligence pyramid submerged under the blood of millions of African people. For one further insidious example, Royal Dutch/Shell director Luis Guisti is also Senior Adviser at the Washington D.C. Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), part of the brain of the defense and intelligence black hole. CSIS directors and members include at least four U.S. Senators or former Senators; at least six former FBI, CIA or DIA executives; and MPRI executive Lt. Gen. Ed Soyster. CSIS director Alexander Haig is a director of United Technologies, the former U.S. Secretary of War, and a major proponent of “star wars” technologies. Haig is today director for America Online, and for Hollywood’s mammoth Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) -- the producer of major propaganda pictures like Black Hawk Down. Other major CSIS defense and intelligence policy strategists include Zbigniew Brzezinski (Madeleine Albright’s patron and mentor); SAIC executive Dr. David Kay; Dr. Henry Kissinger; and current U.S. Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld.

Another notable CSIS strategist mixed up in the heart of darkness is cold-war ideologue Zbigniew Brzezinski, the career mentor of Madeleine Albright, the former Permanent US Representative to the U.N. and Secretary of State. Albright formed an intimate and romantic relationship with diamond kingpin Maurice Templesman in the mid 1990’s, and Templesman appears either principally or peripherally through most of the institutions Albright has served. These include the Center for National Policy; Clinton’s Interagency Council on Women (ties to Templesman pal Robert S. McNamara); the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs; and the Corporate Council on Africa. Albright worked to block all humanitarian intervention in Rwanda in 1994, and she remained a Clinton administration insider to U.S. covert operations and genocide in central Africa from 1993 to (at least) 2000.

The Summer Institute of Linguistics – an especially sordid missionary organization with deep historical connections to CIA and the Rockefellers -- is also operating in the DRC.[ix]

*

Terror is a very personal experience. While Samantha Power was interviewing Pentagon and state department officials responsible for state terrorism in Africa in the 1990’s, I was watching refugees die of malnutrition and dysentery, taking testimony from refugees in Fort Portal, Uganda. While Philip Gourevitch was dining on adjectives in commiseration with a dictator, I was battling insecurity and malaria near the copper-cobalt mines of Lumumbashi, DRC, where people daily die due to the absence of basic medical supplies, thousands of internally displaced people, and the ongoing proxy wars sponsored by western mining syndicates.

The American way of life is intimately connected with war-as-cover for Africa’s petroleum, copper, manganese, uranium, gold, tin, bauxite, timber and water. Colin Powell recently signed up all the regional dictators, and a few so-called “environmental” organizations, including World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) and the World Conservation Union, for the euphemistic Congo Basin Forest Partnership, but that too is about repression, about the old, new oily-garchy, and some of the USA’s worst logging companies are behind it. Indeed, Royal Dutch/Shell director Teymour Alireza is a member of the International Board of Trustees of WWF. The World Resources Institute signed on as well: Mahmood Mamdani is a WRI fellow, and the WRI is a smokescreen for big business and major investment banks.

Note that MPRI early in 2003 petitioned the U.S. government for a primary “peacekeeping” contract in DRC; they already work in Nigeria and Angola. That is fascism: orchestrate disaster, and then hire yourself out to mitigate it. Anyway, MPRI has no interest in an equitable peace: they offer superior military force, and violence, and it is nothing less than organized crime.

Some 80% of world supplies of cobalt and columbo-tantalite (coltan) are found in DRC. Coltan is essential for cell phones, Sony Playstations and computers. During the US proxy wars in Central Africa in the 1990’s, Sony America’s now Executive Vice-President and General Counsel Nicole Seligman was legal counselor to President William Jefferson Clinton (through the Washington D.C. firm Williams and Connally, LLP). During his media banking stint with First Boston, one of the major backers of profit-based “humanitarian relief” efforts in Zaire in 1995, Sony Corporation Executive V.P. and Chief Financial Officer Robert Wiesenthal counted Cox Communications, Time Warner and the New York Times as major clients. Never addressing the roots of the conflict, the scant New York Times articles that focused on Zaire/DRC during these periods served merely to leverage or support the business interests of the Times’ directors and affiliate companies (re: Sony and First Boston).

Cobalt is the big story, never reported. Cobalt is stockpiled by the Defense Logistics Agency, and it is elemental to the superalloys of the space, energy and nuclear weapons complexes. Many American companies routinely operate amidst war in DRC – like Formack (VT), America Mineral Fields (AMFI), United Technologies (UT) and George Forrest’s OM Group (OH) – a leader in the cobalt connection. The raw materials come to big cities and little towns all across America, where they are sold -- like the diamonds are sold by local agents for Lazare Kaplan -- on Main Street, Northampton, Massachusetts.

Do the details matter? Factor in permanent warfare under Mobutu Sese Seko – you know, the hopelessness, the starving children, the epidemics of treatable disease, the intentional withholding of food by supermarkets to the world like National Public Radio sponsor Archers Daniels Midland – and the number of dead in Congo/Zaire easily exceeds twenty million since 1960.[x] Over 45% of the deaths are women and children under the age of five. Normal population surveys are meaningless in some areas: the children are completely absent.

Absolute dictatorships run by absolute criminals remain in complete media obfuscation or whiteout. These include Gabon, C.A.R., Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Togo. At least half a million women have been sexually mutilated, raped, abducted and kept as sexual slaves for up to a year, and then murdered, by all sides to these conflicts: women as old as eighty and girls as young as five. It is both random, and systematic.

Repression, rape and the withholding of sterile medical supplies form the basis of the AIDS pandemic, and Maurice Templesman is an adviser of the AIDS Institute of the Harvard School for Public Health. Did Harvard’s Samantha Power interview Maurice Templesman?

Eastern Congo has been absolutely, and unfathomably, ravaged. Malnutrition affects one-third of DRC’s population – some 16 million people. Some 1.1 million people are internally displaced. On average, some 2600 people have died every day of the war in DRC. It is protracted, horrible, unnecessary and stoppable.

The peace and justice community has dismissed the DRC, and Africa more broadly. People don’t hesitate to take action to try to stop war in Iraq. We struggle with the Palestinians. Our witnesses for peace frequent Latin America. Our conferences and workshops proliferate and, more often than not, Africa is entirely off the agenda. Meanwhile, the refugees and political dissidents are all around us. Africa suffers in silence. It is depopulation, by design. It is the legacy of our lifestyle and the intention of empire.

If there is a “hopelessness” about Africa, it is not that Americans do not care. Rather, local newspapers ever regurgitating the insidious deceptions of the national media sow the hopelessness, and Americans keep reading them. The hopelessness comes with the American addiction to the New York Times. Ditto for the liberal magazines and alternative weeklies (e.g.: in 2003, the Valley Advocate Newspapers dropped the annual Project Censored top stories). It is hopeless, and it will remain hopeless, as long as caring and educated Americans insist – indignantly -- that “I have to know what is going on,” that “I can read between the lines,” that the propaganda “isn’t hurting me.” ~ begin.

P.S.



The most poignant, simple, direct action an individual can take to counter genocide and American empire is to stop consuming the media – to stop purchasing, reading, listening to, or watching, CNN, New York Times, National Public Radio, Daily Hampshire Gazette, or any other corporate, pro-military institutions of propaganda -- including the American “literary” institutions like Harper’s, Atlantic Monthly and The New Yorker. This is not an incidental remark, but a thoughtful, meticulously researched, studiously delineated, and strategic proposal for direct and significant personal action -- with immediate and global repercussions.



It is a serious call for a total and organized boycott of the New York Times Corporation.


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keith harmon snow is a journalist and photographer whose dispatches on war in Africa and disinformation in America won two Project Censored awards in 2002 and are included in the volume Project Censored 2003. In 2000 keith spent seven months in Africa researching genocide and U.S. covert operations, and he attended the criminal International Criminal Tribunal on Rwanda in Arusha Tanzania. In 2001 he provided expert testimony at a special congressional hearing on genocide and covert operations in Africa, convened in Washington DC, and he gave the introductory address at the Sixth Annual International Africa Students Association conference at Yale University. He has worked in 16 African countries, and he has presented on neocolonialism, dictatorship, genocide and U.S. covert operations in Africa, and the political economy of the western mass media, at over 25 major colleges and universities.


[i] See e.g., Wayne Madsen, Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa, 1993-1993, 1999, Mellen Press.

[ii] Robin Philbot, Online Journal, June 3, 2003. Philbot’s upcoming book is That’s Not How It Happened in Rwanda. On James Rubin, see also: Madsen, Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa, 1993-1999, Mellen Press, 1999.

[iii] Ralph G. Kershaw, “Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda: International Justice According to Washington,” Covert Action Quarterly, No. 74, Fall 2002.

[iv] Alison des Forges, Rwanda: RPF Seeks to Eliminate Opposition, Human Rights Watch, 8, 2003.

[v] See Heather Cottin, “George Soros, Imperial Wizard,” Covert Action Quarterly, No. 74, Fall 2002.

[vi]Shell Oil Company, “America’s 11 Most Endangered Historic Places 2002,” Special Advertising Section, The Atlantic Monthly, 2002.

[vii] See, e.g., David Gibbs, The Political Economy of Third World Intervention: Mines, Moiney and U.S. Policy in the Congo Crisis, University of Chicago Press, 1991.

[viii] E.g. NPR program on war, “blood” diamonds and transnational organized crime in Liberia and Sierra Leone by Michael Montague, American Radio Works, June 7, 2003. U.S. nominee Dr. David Crane was choisen as lead prosecutor for an International Criminal tribunal for Siera Leone, but Crane is a Defense Intelligence Agency insider who in 1996 and 1997 was involved with Kagame and Museveni’s invasion of Zaire. While at the DIA, Crane was also involved with mercenary firms Sandline and Executive Outcomes (Covert Action Quarterly, No. 74, Fall 2002).

[ix] Based on a personal interview with an SIL missionary in Uganda in 2000. For a detailed look at the Summer Institute of Linguistics, see Colby and Dennett, Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil, Harper Collins, 1996.

[x] This number is most likely over-conservative. Independent assessments of mortality rates in provinces in DRC by the International Rescue Committee and the National Academy of Sciences in 2001 found 8% of the population dies annually. DRC has at least fifty million people. The annual birth rate exceeds 8%.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into Reply with quote

Peace.

Quote:

What or who or why were they bombing exactly?
I don't know.
Your guess is as good as mine.
But it doesn't sound good.


A decade of target practice on expendable people by the latest war technologies. Keeping their killing chops up to speed for the 'Big Show' coming in 2003?

Hideous monsters. I have a cell phone and obviously a computer. I haven't owned a tv for almost a year, however, and avoid most forms of corporate media (hard to avoid the assault at the supermarket checkout line, but i do my best). It's also difficult to totally avoid corporate media on the web, but there's so much more 'food' for my brain there than on the tv. I do watch movies occasionally and once in a while watch a little tv at someone else's house.. usually movies, but I have noticed a shift in the way i think and react emotionally to 'news' that i hear about. I do not miss tv at all. I feel less desensitized than before.

But sometimes it seems that desensetivity may be a built-in defense mechanism for survival... a necessary one maybe? There's a dilemma.

Keith Harmon Snow...well, there're no words to pay enough tribute to him.
I don't think there's a more lucid and feeling writer than him right now either. That was an incredible essay. Thanks for posting it Crac.

The labyrinth of the Corporate/Murder matrix is so deep and intertwined, it's like a fast moving ivy of cancer in the world.

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Official Holocaust + Total Denial = Hegelian Dialectic redirect. Right?

I agree that Matt Marriott has posted MANY seemingly unhinged threads and comments, but I see his point in this GoldisMoney comment:


Quote:
Holocaust of the Jews: The Big Lie vs. the The Simple Truth
Holocaust Denial Agenda - The Big Lie


Level 1: Churchill and Roosevelt did their best / could have done more to stop the Holocaust (currently the official illuminati History).
Level 2 (rewriting History starts here): the government is jailing Holocaust deniers.
Level 3: there were less than 6 million Jews so there was no Holocaust.
Level 4: Hitler had no specific agenda to exterminate the Jews.
Level 5: there were no gas chambers.
Level 6: there was no Holocaust.

Jewish Holocaust - The Simple Truth

- Churchill and Roosevelt did their best to put the Holocaust on track; (at least Rockefeller did, Roosevelt was a Wall Street banker, sharing an office very near Harriman's Union Banking Corp on 39 Broadway {?} )

- millions of Jews (we can't tell exactly how many) were gassed and murdered otherwise to implement the "Exterminate the Jews" agenda, using the "Evil Jews scapegoat" mind control technique, officially propagated by the Nazis.

- the agenda to exterminate the Jews was not only a nazi agenda, it was a broader illuminati agenda, i.e. the gas chambers were being supervised by Churchill and Roosevelt, as plenty of historic proof (documents, footage) now can prove;

- the illuminati recently upscaled the "Holocaust Denial Agenda" using their web of disinformation, headed by David Irving;

- one of the mind control techniques used to upscale it: "Acceptance by Association / Refusal by Dissociation". This was implemented by staging the "Deny the Holocaust and go to jail" hoax using the "Contents vs. Package" Mind control Technique, i.e. none of the agents of their Web of Disinformation was actually jailed for that.

- staging this hoax was also used to advance into the final stages of another illuminati agenda: "Legalizing Terror", in this case jailing people for simply expressing an opinion.

Facts? See link in OP.


I don't have to agree with all Matt's facts, or anyone's, nor disagree, but there's definitely a multi-level propaganda operation going on here, and it seems to be a 50/50 split (in views, not in camps of 'beliefs') between TOTAL acceptance and TOTAL denial --- which rages in the media --- and which leads towards
a) not seeing or knowing or discussing involvement or perpetration by key Americans in mass murder of Euro Jews
b) ignoring other genocides perpetrated NOW by the same families and new "businesses"
c) likewise, the MEDIA's treatment of Amadinejad, laughingly including Neo-cons complaining about Iran's persecution of homosexuals in Iran
d) while ignoring fascist aspects of Zionism and Palestinians, getting used to debating "the numbers" on both sides, and forgetting about Iraq

In general, keeping the yardstick for "official genocide" long.
etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MM's characterization of the Zundel trial as a staged hoax is at best a sign of mental laziness. The real lesson to draw here is not about Hegelian dialectics more basically: throw enough dirt and some of it will stick. The original charges at the Nuremberg trial included claims that steam chambers were used at Treblinka as a means of mass-execution. Most of the stories which were pushed as accusations at the time of those original trials have been quietly dumped. The Treblinka steam chambers somehow turned into gas chambers, although we've never had a clear explanation of how this could have been confused at the time of the post-war trials and why anyone should believe that the Treblinka gas chamber story has any more basis in fact.

Zundel's trials in 1985 and 1988 made it clear that none of the alleged specialists who are official experts on such matters were prepared to answer questions about such issues. If MM is going to charge that the Zundel trial was a staged hoax then he should be able to demonstrate a clearer knowledge as to what actually occurred there. At best MM is simply obfuscating.

One can read through the transcripts of the 1988 trial at:

http://ihr.org/books/kulaszka/falsenews.toc.html

Of particular significance are the reproduction of Hilberg's testimony and cross-examination from the 1985 Zundel trial

http://ihr.org/books/kulaszka/09hilberg.html

and that of Christopher Browning in the 1988 trial:

http://ihr.org/books/kulaszka/12browning.html

This was not a staged event and one of the major reasons for the push to ban historical revisionism on this subject was precisely that it became clear this was the only way to avoid being upstaged in more such trials. Ban free speech when you don't have a counter-argument.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always fascinated by word games, I couldn't help but notice what happens when you tap the space bar twice:

Uncle Sam an tha Power

Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpl4skn wrote:
Uncle Sam an tha Power



haaaaah krypton eyes.. brilliant Exclamation

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickSMcNally wrote:
Zundel's trials in 1985 and 1988 made it clear that none of the alleged specialists who are official experts on such matters were prepared to answer questions about such issues. If MM is going to charge that the Zundel trial was a staged hoax then he should be able to demonstrate a clearer knowledge as to what actually occurred there. At best MM is simply obfuscating.

and that of Christopher Browning in the 1988 trial


It was beyond the expertise of the experts.

In Holocaustology there are two schools of thought, the nazis always intended to exterminate the Jews from the outset (the Straight Road to Auschwitz) and the nazis never intended to exterminate the Jews, nazi policy stumbled about influenced by miltary and current events until it just happened (the Road to Auschwitz is a Crooked Path).

Browning is of the latter school, and he makes the definitive argument in his book The Origins of the Final Solution.

Also, he has never conducted investigations in Germany, the Central Government, Reichskommisariat Ostland, Reichskommisariat Ukraine or military occupied territories (where no government existed) where extermination camps are claimed to have existed.

However, he did thoroughly document the activities of Reserve Police Battalion 101 in the Lublin District within the Central Government. These were men between ages 35 and 55 who were police officers in Freihanserstadt Hamburg who were also inactive reservists in feldjaeger battalions. They were called up to duty and sent to the Lublin District, where then went village to village executing Jews and resistance members.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yossarian wrote:
However, he did thoroughly document the activities of Reserve Police Battalion 101 in the Lublin District within the Central Government. These were men between ages 35 and 55 who were police officers in Freihanserstadt Hamburg who were also inactive reservists in feldjaeger battalions. They were called up to duty and sent to the Lublin District, where then went village to village executing Jews and resistance members.


Counter-insurgency warfare. Yes that definitely occurred and is always a very brutal practice (just ask the inhabitants of My Lai Hamlet). But the problem in the traditional version of the alleged Holocaust has always been over how to jump from that, which is common in world history, to something which is alleged to have been unusually uncommon. One of the things which Christie caught the official historians on was their unawareness of the Allied practice of executing groups of hostages from the civilian population of Germany when they entered the country and had to combat insurgents. It was the same practice. But Browning, Hilberg and the others made it clear that they hadn't taken the time of really investigating issues which would make them qualified to speak for the prosecution in the Zundel case.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickSMcNally wrote:
But Browning, Hilberg and the others made it clear that they hadn't taken the time of really investigating issues which would make them qualified to speak for the prosecution in the Zundel case.


Yes, actions by the victors are often over-looked or ignored, such as documented instances where German POWs were executed en masse by the Allies (especially the US) for expediency and other reasons.

I don't have a problem with civilians or POWs being slain, it's the denial that is disturbing.
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