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bornfree



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Unwelcome Guest Radio Program Reply with quote

Here's a great radio program that I've subscribed to in iTunes, its what Democracy Now is suppose to be...

Unwelcome Guest: A program about wealth, power, and people's resistance to the New World Order.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a GREAT radio program, bornfree !

I don't always agree with it (global warming view on one episode) but the other few I have listened to have been FANTASTIC.

I highly recommend these two episodes:

Episode #368 Beyond Democracy Lite w/ TOM LINZEY et al

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Subtitle: Home Rule versus the Corporate State
Program Type: Weekly Program
Featured Speakers/Commentators: Tom Linzey, Jack Ossont, Valerie Gardiner, John Taylor Gatto (reading)
Producer: Unwelcome Guests Collective
Broadcast Restictions: For non-profit use only.
Summary:
Credits:
Notes: Tom Linzey of CELDF and Jack and Valerie of Democracy New York talk about latest evolution in the battle in rural Pennsylvania against corporate rights, and the citizens who have been radicalized by the demonstration of sham democracy - Gatto explains how a plan for Democracy lite, known as "elite democracy" was implemented a century ago. The idea, proposed and approved, was the permanent infantilizing of the bulk of population, skimming the cream to become managers for the ruling class.

Linzey spoke in Montour Falls, NY 7/17/07

The part about HOME RULE and fighting at the Municipal or County Level (since state and federal levels are useless) is INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

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Episode #365 with RICHARD GROSSMAN et al

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Subtitle: Pushing Back Against the Corporate State
Program Type: Weekly Program
Featured Speakers/Commentators: Richard Grossman, John Taylor Gatto (reading)
Producer: Unwelcome Guests Collective
Broadcast Restictions: For non-profit use only.
Summary:
Credits:
Notes: as we mark the annual celebration clebrationf the first American revolution, a growing number of people have concluded that a second American revolution is long overdue. The 1776 uprising overthrew rule by an aristocracy of blood, and replaced it with an aristocracy of blood money, that has delivered life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness on an inverted sliding scale ever since, by design. It is a design that was meant to frustrate popular rule, to allow a few to divide and conquer the many. Its myths of self reliance and prosperity were based on free land stolen from its original inhabitants. its wealth was built from the labors of the enslaved and exploited. Freedom is possible only when one has the power to escape control, a process that begins in the mind. If not for this mental bondage that creates isolation, passivity, fear and competition for favor, the few could not rule the many.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And in EPISODE #345 - Dumbed Down, Buttoned Down or Locked Down , activist Ben Manski talks about how the cost of higher ed. changed after the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh-Dole_Act

All those damn public-private partnerships (& less public funding) are the reasons why the cost of college is now out the ass,and the fields of "research" are utter shit. The PTB replaced the negotiated gains made by students in the 1960s with corporate university trustees.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked up a lot of Unwelcome Guests clips in the past by Doug Dowd, a cool elderly historian with an attitude.

Also, Michael Parenti.

Definitely Left-leaning, but FAR Left not Dem-Left. Except that John Taylor Gatto also regularly appears on the far right, in pro-Christian Education forums.

(Also, in one piece, Gatto was decrying all the lawyers in America, everyone suing everyone else, damage to civil society, but I think most of those lawyers are corporate attorneys suing other corporations. Most individuals would be hard-pressed to get a day in court, to hire a lawyer, especially to sue an employer. I know a lawyer who tries to handle unfair dismissals, and his cases are often unceremoniously adjudicated and tossed out.)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracrocrates wrote:
That's a GREAT radio program, bornfree !

I don't always agree with it (global warming view on one episode) but the other few I have listened to have been FANTASTIC.


Thanks Cracrocrates, I agree with you. I don't think any program could ever be 100% but so far as you have noted many a good program has come from Unwelcome Guests.

I hadn't heard the one on global warming and I must have missed the one about Pushing Back Against the Corporate State that sounds interesting. I also agree about John Taylor Gatto as dilbert_g points out.

I do like to listen so far to most of the Unwelcome Guests audios. Now to download number 365 and load it onto my ipod. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilbert_g wrote:
Except that John Taylor Gatto also regularly appears on the far right, in pro-Christian Education forums.
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Most individuals would be hard-pressed to get a day in court, to hire a lawyer, especially to sue an employer.



I wouldn't ever characterize Gatto as "right-wing" (though I don't know if the pro-Christian shows you mention he was on were or not). I'm pretty sure he would think that foreign wars are a poor way of defending one's own people. And unlike many Christian groups, he thinks state-funded VOUCHERS to private schools are a bad idea because the state is a too corrupting influence.

What Gatto says about public education is VERY CONSISTENT with my own experiences in a number of different states. Maybe 10-20% useful, 80% brainwashing & socialization & time wasting (my words, not Gatto's).

If public education was teaching kids how to do something useful, like uh, BUILD A HOUSE or SEWAGE SYSTEM or run an ELECTRICAL PLANT or FIX A CAR or THINK ANALYTICALLY or something, I wouldn't agree with Gatto that getting rid of COMPULSORY public education is the solution. Education could still be publicly funded, but making it compulsory turns it into a prison for the students AND the teachers.

Gatto said that American Education made a big shift starting around 1895 and decades afterwards when non-profits created by Industrialists (Rockefeller,Carnegie, etc) started spending MORE MONEY ON EDUCATION THAN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE. Before that, the mostly self-taught curriculums and reading lists that Ben Franklin or George Washington went through were more rigorous than many COLLEGE readings today.

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About the lawyers: don't forget "ambulance chasers." Lawyers sometime will work on the condition of no fees, but will take like 1/3 of the settlement...their favorite cases probably involve insurance companies & big employers . Sometimes the lawyers are the assholes, sometimes its the clients Smile I think that's what Gatto means by break down in civil society...more assholes.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Taylor Gatto actually does a decent job of describing in Beyond Schooling how compulsory schooling for education in America is built on CORPORATE MANAGEMENT THEORY directed at social control and building a society of corporate bots. He says it's designed to infantalize most of the population, for easy management in factories, and he bases that on the original writings of school planners, copying the Prussians.

(A similar thinker to him, Tom Linzey, said that when it came to freeing the slaves, we did not create a Federal Department of Slavery/Freedom Guidelines, or get some wealthy grants for the Institute of Slavery Regulation. We created an underground railroad, ourselves.)

When Gatto calls these policies "Socialistic", he's not referring to democratic control of social and economic issues, he's referring to social management based around the idea of creating obedient workers who may whine but don't hassle managers too much, and who have been trained to shop and consume and work. It's more pervasive than communism, because it's diluted and disguised and just a part of the fabric of society and marketing, not some distinct ideology with a leader or prophet at the helm, but it was planned for America, every bit as much as the Soviet Union.

The reason Gatto shows up at Christian Home-Schooling forums, is his belief that Western Christianity points to healthy personal responsibility, and NOT a sense of HELPLESSNESS, that the elites want to create in modern society. They think most people are idiots. Brzezinski is the guy I know of who spoke of passivity and defeatism as desired attributes for society.

Unlike some anti-comm bogeyman statements, he makes sense and is not unclear about what he means.

Gatto speaks of a time when 13 year olds were considered adults, not children. He mentions Switzerland, one of the wealthiest western societies, where just 25% of people graduate high school.


The reason he shows up at Christian Home-Schooling forums, is his belief that Western Christianity points to healthy personal responsibility, and NOT a sense of HELPLESSNESS, that the elites want to create in modern society. Quite often, "personal responsibility" is a mantra for corporate irresponsibility to society, and ending social programs while keeping irresponsible corporate welfare, but not in this case. He mentions Brzezinski and Kissinger, as well as the roots of this thinking. Dewey was not the leader of this.

He points out that whatever famous socialists and honored leftists have tinkered in education, which your typical right wingnut blames, the MONEY behind them has always been grants from Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Ford ... and he clearly explains WHY.

Brzezinski is the guy I know of who spoke of passivity and defeatism as desired attributes for society.

This was a surprisingly REVOLUTIONARY talk by John Taylor Gatto.
http://www.Takeoverworld.info/mp3/John_Taylor_Gatto__Beyond_Schooling.mp3

There is a TON of good info in here, connecting a lot of dots.
This is not JUST a pep-talk, like most Alex Jones. I agree with Gatto, it's about how we got to where we are now, and how they keep us here. I think this kind of stuff is part of a necessary intellectual foundation required for any revolutionary efforts to move forward some day. Without a foundation, chaos will lead to martial law will be welcomed by many people, IMO.

Many 'mainstream conservatives' acting all 'radical' want MORE of this subversive martial law. The debate on the radio today was between a teacher advocating for general public schooling for autistic and ADHD kids, treating them normal, able to learn, with the host disagreeing saying that schooling was disrupted too much and costs too high by mixing 'special ed' with good old fashioned 3 R's.

Fortunately, this particular right wing drone is NOW complaining about the endless Iraq War.
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