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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reverse Speech Reply with quote

I am therefore I think. Recently dived into www.reversespeech.com to understand the process of how this new module of analysis and healing operates and found it fascinating in potential. Many people know of the Stairway To Heaven Lyrics bearing a different meaning.

Theres quite a few examples on You Tube of Bush etc. forward speaking and then giving more insight as to intention or real motive behind the words.

According to David's work, the Soul speaks backwards through our forward-speech and of course, it speaks the truth. The language uses mythical symbols and through a process of taping,analysis, hypnotism and NLP reframing, deep healings are produced which are premanent.
The soul tells the cause of its dis-ease and the process of healing on a physical, emotional or spiritual level.

Apparently, the child is speaking in reverse way before learning to 'reverse' to forward speech so it's the most natural form of communication for all of us.

This would explain why people so often do not respond to what is said, but rather what the soul says, as our subconscious (I think we should change this to superconscious) minds 'hear' the reverse speech truth.

It would also explain how empathics or sensitive people (like moi) detect underlying emotional states of others through the tone of their voice and are able to relate on that level (better on the phone - less distraction).

With so much psychology emerging in the 'manifestation' field and the volumes of work regards the Law of Attraction (thoughts become things) it also clarifies why so many fail to attract their desires through focussed conscious thought as it is the Soul who directs the show. If there are unresolved issues of self-worth or fear (being human innit?) then we're not going to get what we 'want'. So it's an exciting prospect to learn how to listen to the Soul through this intriguing method.

Words are thoughts manifest. There's an interesting little book called Switchwords which promotes certain words as have power in manifesting intentions.

When David first launched Reverse Speech in US he decoded a speech by Clinton on Desert Storm and the authorities weren't happy about this and his house burnt down. Anyhow, I think it's intriguing and worth exploring. I can't remember David's surname off hand but you'll find it on site.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reverse Speech Reply with quote

I am therefore I think. Recently dived into www.reversespeech.com to understand the process of how this new module of analysis and healing operates and found it fascinating in potential. Many people know of the Stairway To Heaven Lyrics bearing a different meaning.

Theres quite a few examples on You Tube of Bush etc. forward speaking and then giving more insight as to intention or real motive behind the words.

According to David's work, the Soul speaks backwards through our forward-speech and of course, it speaks the truth. The language uses mythical symbols and through a process of taping,analysis, hypnotism and NLP reframing, deep healings are produced which are premanent.
The soul tells the cause of its dis-ease and the process of healing on a physical, emotional or spiritual level.

Apparently, the child is speaking in reverse way before learning to 'reverse' to forward speech so it's the most natural form of communication for all of us.

This would explain why people so often do not respond to what is said, but rather what the soul says, as our subconscious (I think we should change this to superconscious) minds 'hear' the reverse speech truth.

It would also explain how empathics or sensitive people (like moi) detect underlying emotional states of others through the tone of their voice and are able to relate on that level (better on the phone - less distraction).

With so much psychology emerging in the 'manifestation' field and the volumes of work regards the Law of Attraction (thoughts become things) it also clarifies why so many fail to attract their desires through focussed conscious thought as it is the Soul who directs the show. If there are unresolved issues of self-worth or fear (being human innit?) then we're not going to get what we 'want'. So it's an exciting prospect to learn how to listen to the Soul through this intriguing method.

Words are thoughts manifest. There's an interesting little book called Switchwords which promotes certain words as have power in manifesting intentions.

When David first launched Reverse Speech in US he decoded a speech by Clinton on Desert Storm and the authorities weren't happy about this and his house burnt down. Anyhow, I think it's intriguing and worth exploring. I can't remember David's surname off hand but you'll find it on site.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reverse it to find the source... Reply with quote

DaftAida wrote:
I am therefore I think. Words are thoughts manifest. There's an interesting little book called Switchwords which promotes certain words as have power in manifesting intentions.


Hi Aida. Not half daft, by my lights... Very Happy

The mechanisms that produce our communications are many and diverse. The common thread is the connection between our source and the receiver. How we can interpret these emanations depends directly on how we perceive and understand the underlying motivation of the processes that can affect the emission as it makes its way into our field of perception.

There is a direct relation between the thought process and the imperfections that occlude the direct and integral descent of our purpose and meaning. Thoughts are the reflections of our descendant energy off of these forms. Deciphering the inherent difference between the reflection and the incipient energy is how we can discern the real meaning of any communication.

Empaths are people whose sensitivity is geared to an acute ability to tune in to specific emotional tendencies of those with whom they are in communication (verbal and non-verbal). This sensitivity is, however, a two-edged sword as it interferes with and exacerbates their ability to discern and describe their own conditions, to their detriment. You must take great care to not be hood-winked into trying to care for others and not realizing that caring for yourself takes precedence. A sick doctor is a bad doctor. Evil or Very Mad

Do you find that the exhiliration that you undergo during such experiences tends to sap your vitality to an extent that seems unfair? It is the warning sign that must not be ignored.

Sensitives have an opportunity that is diametrically opposed by the involutive forces that reside within themselves. This balance is necessary for their own protection but is also the key to the progress of their own evolution.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: The thinking zone is the danger zone Reply with quote

Does being in the moment and not having to think about what you are doing mean a loss of control? In essence, it means a loss of egoic control over the reflection of the energy that is available to you to accomplish the task at hand. The ego is the mechanism by which descendant luminous energy is collimated, directed and focused through the physical entity to accomplish those actions required by our adherance to the plan that we established prior to our arrival in this plane. Reflections are just pale imitations of reality. As such they contain very little in the way of energy and can often be distorted and warped in ways that belie their connection to the original emission as well as leading the user of the remaining energy away from his original intent and need. The ego was designed and established to permit the functioning of the internal psychic processes while the experiential requirements of your source-self were acquired. Having a "life" of its own was necessary as was the installation of "markers" that serve both as shock-absorbers and indicators of the kinds and types of experience that are to be obtained. In fact this life is a reflection of the source-self as transmitted through the psychic-self which awaits the accumulation of the adjusted material experiences. The ego intercepts and interprets the reflections of luminous energy and relates them to its required functions. These reflections are perceived as communications that exist as thought forms. A thought form is just a warning buzzer that your package has arrived and that you should collect and use it. Unfortunately, the thought form can become part of an internal dialogue that resembles a conversation or exchange with oneself. Thus reflections of reflections bleed away the incipient energy and result in the ego directing virtually nothing while all the time being very very busy.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: A penny for your thoughts?...They aren't even worth that! Reply with quote

So what the hell are thoughts good for? Well they stir up emotions that can lead you to unintelligent acts (I differentiate between irrational and unintelligent, as irrational can be fun and instructive while unintelligent always leads to less well-being than you had before them...)

They can send you round in circles, debating your "position" on things endlessly and wasting powerful brain energy instead of using that same energy to resolve the situation at hand.

They can occupy your sensory apparatus (thinking up something to say while the person who is taking the time and effort to speak to you is conveying valuable information) so that you neither completely nor effectively complete the communication "circuit" with the person who is addressing you.

In fact, their only use is as a locator beacon for their essence which can only be readily discerned during the conscious exchange process with another individual that is partaking in the energy field.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Talk about a close shave! Reply with quote

DrewTerry wrote:

I feel it is the blindfolded consciousness as interpreted by Calleman that seems to allow understanding of seemingly inexplainable events or circumstances - for instance, the blindfold causes the lack of awareness to manifest as a lack of wholeness or lack of satisfaction, seen in the never-ending drive of the male capitalist to acquire, build, buy and build some more - that precisely because "enough is never enough" due to the blindfolded awareness is what fueled the tremendous growth, prosperity and achievements enjoyed by the US over the last 256 years or so.

Now that the blindfold has served its purpose the evolutionary need has changed, without any awareness on our part, and day by day we are seeing people rapidly becoming aware and aware of the process by which they became aware and knew they were becoming aware as the awareness grew.

So while the industrial revolution may be remembered now as environmental destruction we really do not know what purpose the materialism actually fulfilled in the grand scheme of evolutionary progress...and there is no need to know.

We know what we need when we need to know, and we need to know when we know what we need.

Other than that, I don't need to know what I know I don't need to know...know what I mean? Laughing


If you feel like making an appearance, the exchange was worth the while. I am just starting in on Calleman's second book.

If we consider the "blindfold" to be the inversion of the sinusoidal curve of consciousness raising then we have periods of increasing unawareness. The changed slope of the curve permits integration of those things of which we are aware (to better focus our attention and intention on them). So the blindfold is a kind of "blinkers" that helps the horse to concentrate on the task at hand and to avoid distraction. We need only consider that the overall consciousness of the planet is raised or integrated and that certain sensitive individuals can observe and experience the entire process while others play a different role in the scenario.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Come again? Oh yeah, reincarnation, I forgot.... Reply with quote

Thoughts are related to reincarnation? Thoughts are the reflections of previous experiences that "clog" the structures of the conduits (universal circuits) that convey your descendent energy. Each experience leaves its imprint (memory, remember that?) in your circuitry and was ideally supposed to charge a specific battery with a particular energy. If that energy was never extracted from the life experience then it became a memorial form and continued to reside in the astral plane, adjacent to, but intervening between, the supra and infra mental regions. The reactive memory and the intellect had previously been created to provide the ego with its checks and balances (omg that sounds like another invisible government...but I suppose that the Hermetic principle applies everywhere Twisted Evil ) but has the nasty habit of not cleaning up after itself. Leftovers tend to go bad and food-for-thought poisoning occurs.

Why RE-incarnate at all? Why can't we get what we need in a one-stop shop? Initially, you needed to regenerate yourself but there was a problem....no convenient way to do it... (You can lead a soul to experience but you can't make it integrate it. Sad ) So your source provided your spirit with a plan and booted your butt into the material plane to get the job done. Talk about super-egos.... Embarassed The situations that we encounter would normally require learning the task and practising it to get the kinks out. The difficulty is that our vibrational state is not sufficient to take care of all of the aspects of these tasks. Kind of like an apprentice that makes some errors while learning the trade. Coming to grips with this situation and all the associated phenomena is the first step in the right direction.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Feedback loops can generate some pretty strong signals Reply with quote

So, if thoughts are just echos and pale imitations of our descendant psychic energy, what the heck is that psychic energy supposed to be doing?

Once man got past the survival aspects of his existance, he realized that there was more to life that just living. At least living in survival mode. As much as we try to occupy ourselves with various philosophical and tactile experiences, we always find them lacking and want to determine just what our purpose and meaning is.

The universe is a pretty amazing place. Not only is it infinite but it is eternal as well. Since the universe seems able to maintain and support its fundamental principles without too much apparent effort (as Drew says, it just IS Cool ) and we are a very definite part of this universe......how come we seem so ephemeral and inconsequential? The answer lies not only in the stars but also in ourselves. We are the keys to our own existance. We contain all that we need to become all that we are and all that we will ever need to be.

On a cosmic level, a man or an atom or a quark are all pretty much the same. The one thing that they have in common and that allows them to be differentiated is the information that they carry within themselves. We need only learn how to discern and employ that information and we will be well on our way to self realisation.

How we get at and exploit that information depends on the nature of energy and its fundamental methods of amplification. A nuclear explosion is just the odd atom bumping into another in a specific and particular fashion. Once you know the secret of feedback loops, the cat is out of the bag and Schrodinger will testify to its being very much alive.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: An echo is the poorest form of exchange Reply with quote

So, lost in your thoughts? Of course you are, what else could you be? You wanted to drain the swamp but forgot your initial goal when you got up to your ass in alligators! Laughing

Internal dialogues are not constructive nor are they progressive. They are simply reflective. Reflection is the pale imitation of the mental transmission process. Repeated reflection is not only a time-waster but it is also an energy depleter. Without the gain boost of the resonance loop that strengthens external communication, the resonance boost that results from passive reflection sends all of the energy into the memorial residues and repositories that benefit from them to our detriment.

Suffice it to say that even an echo comes from a source that is impassive and unable to interact with you otherwise. When you "engage" and energize your residual memories, you raise them up vibrationally and strengthen them psychically. This is NOT good for you, as the ego is then more subject to their influence and interference.

Living in the moment requires that you not only ignore but that you also expunge the value and tenor of any memorial residues that impinge on your psychic processes. This can be achieved by verbal resonant exchange with another person who is able to receive and transpond with your vibrational phase and level. Action and activity CREATES memories and is not subject to them. You are making your own "mix tape" that represents your progression and your evolution. Do not be fooled nor influenced by the crosstalk signals that find their way into your ken. They have their own agenda and requirements and are in no way looking out for you and your interests.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: The hand that rocks the boat? Reply with quote

Now, we are getting to the crux of the matter. Just what exactly is the purpose and more emphatically, the goal, of all of these structures and embodiments that inhabit our psychic terrain?

Well, at our present level of consciousness, we can perceive and deduce the mechanisms and the functional aspects of all of these internal processes. The real problem exists in our lack of illumination as to the agenda of these forces that operate at the periphery of our persons.

If we cannot know their agenda, even if it appears that they are detrimental to our progression and evolution, can we make use of their presence to our advantage? Like free weights, their judicious employment will result in the increase in (psychic) muscle mass and an increase in vitality and strength. In fact, these inferior ethereal planes were created and designed to provide us with the necessary stepping stones to the attainment of our reality.

A car battery is useful as long as it is charged. It can, however, give you a nasty shock or even cause a fire or explosion if it is improperly used. Consider all aspects of our make-up as facets of our existence that when used appropriately serve a useful function and benefit us according to our needs. Remember, though, that they also contain charges that create desires that if misinterpreted can lead to highly dangerous and deleterious situations.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Spinning heads need a center of gravity. Reply with quote

So just how do we figure it all out? Our purpose based on our intention and revealed by our perceptions. If you had to do it another way, what would you consider? Writing a grocery list and stuffing it in your pocket? How about leaving a recorded message. Maybe just providing yourself with a series of clues (breadcrumbs sort of...)

All these and more. Our awareness is often relegated to more egoic pursuits such as studying and copying and regurgitating etc. Fresh food for thought is always more satisfying and less dangerous for peace of mind, body and soul. Whenever you find yourself reflecting on events or even personalizing how things impact on you or affect your feelings, stop it! Needless circulating of the current only heats up the circuits and uses up precious time that is in short supply and great demand.

Express yourself. Exchange with those that will receive your offerings openly and well. Receive all reasonable requests for attention with thanks. We have these gifts and tools for them to be used to our advantage and not to be wasted or squandered. It is up to you. Don't delay.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep thoughts. Hmmm. Does this qualify?

The other night I dreamt about the Gulf of Thailand. Very deep is that.

Oh, never mind, I'll get my coat.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: To sleep, perchance to ..... see? Reply with quote

A dream is less a thought and more a perception of events and situations that your conscious mind is having trouble dealing with. The symbolism is somewhat personal but also generic.

Water of life, a gulf or void within yours, deep down there are mysteries and darkness. It is not shallow to be at the surface to take a deep breath.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: The next level or would that be the next step? Reply with quote

The first step is always the hardest because it is the one that determines your start and the goal that you are headed for.

So, now that we have realized that our thoughts are not "our own", this is a fundamental change in the way that we can appreciate and use that information. That inner dialogue that you believed was your own internal debate with yourself can now be seen for what it really is. A recursive and debilitating energy drain. Great thinkers? More like minimal time-wasters! As you have no doubt already experienced, your best actions come in that "spur-of-the-moment" inspirational flash where you are "in the groove" and operating at 100%. Not so much a train of thought as a jet propelled action-reaction.

Can we rely on this method as a means of living properly? The proof is in the putting (into motion) as it were. Try it out. Accept that you are the instrument of your intention and that your perspective and ability to discern will permit you to accurately tune into what you need to do. Your intelligence has already paved the way for the correct action. You need only do what comes naturally. This innate sense of centricity is the key to exploiting and enjoying our lives and living itself.

It all has a purpose and that purpose is you.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I remember now.

movement, action, always the key

leading places I knew I'd be

here by chance to glance back at me.
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