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Christophera



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Documentary Found, Intercepted. Your Help Needed Reply with quote

A few very competent and devoted people searching for the video documentary titled "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers". It has been located but the first USPS package did not arrive. the second USPS package arrived empty. A third, sent DHL was never delivered but DHL has a signature saying it was.

A major library in one of Americas largest cities lists it, but their only copy was checked out 3 years ago and was never returned.

The perps have people in positions to intercept and have been preparing for that act for a decade.

The steel reinforced cast concrete core of the Twin Towers and the "built to demolish" scenario are literally the only way to explain the event. A standard controlled demolition, even after 2 years of drilling and setting charges in the concrete core wall and floors, would not achieve, via needed placement and distribution, the uniform breakage of mineral materials seen here.



See an explanation of the red and yellow lines of the above image here,

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11corexplosions.html#anchor1410743

The new instructions to pass on the video copy when found are to; copy, use a friend if possible and get it into video editing software. Copy and compress clips which show and talk about the concrete core. Upload to multiple file storage sites and use selected email lists to distribute the urls of the files on the servers having the video clips. Those recieving the urls should upload the video to youtube and google or other online play sources then post those urls to 9-11 message boards or share their locations by any means possible.

Unfortunately the person with the one copy we know of is a widow with zero video skills and the only copy they can create is VHS video tape through a nieghbor.

We really need a mass call by the 9-11 movement locating the many copies which are out there. The problem is that an infiltration of the 9-11 truth movement, then manipulation exploiting social fears, has left many 9-11 activists afraid to even mention the concrete core of the twin towers. This fear has been created by public ridicule of information, which is fully supported by forensic evidence found at the link immediately below along with articles and downloadable reports from structural engineers and information from Leslie Robertson, the Twin Towers architect himself,

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

Another good page on the same site which provides the most complete documentation of a prominant physical feature, The Spire of the WTC demolitions is this page.

http://algoxy.com/psych/spire-sequence.html

Consider this one critical factor. Concrete can be easily fractured to fall instantly by a small amount of high explosives while steel cannot.


With the above mentioned methods of copy and dissemination, we must flood the available media with select .mp4 clips of the documentary.

A good idea is to request Richard Gage at ae911 and other prominent figures or organizations of the truth movement to POST A NOTICE calling for a COPY of the 1987 2 hr PBS documentary "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers,". Other 9-11 truth organizations should be contacted as well.

Once the fact of the towers true design is known, we can move forward.

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Info specific to WTC 1 via the documentary, "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers". WTC 2 had differences in its concrete core.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude (if you don't mind being called Dude), I think your explanation is the most, hum, concrete one that's been floated around.

Better then holograms, space beams, UFOs (just throwin' that in there for good luck), really.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paradox wrote:
Dude (if you don't mind being called Dude), I think your explanation is the most, hum, concrete one that's been floated around.

Better then holograms, space beams, UFOs (just throwin' that in there for good luck), really.


I'm dude, concrete's the game. Thanks for being the logical and expressing it.

What is said is that we are in a lot deeper sh*t than we thought we were. We thought it was, like,.......... you know a false flag following corrupted elections, that sort of a thing.

No, the freakin' tower were built to demo. Ya just can't get concrete to break up that nicely any other way. Cold war secrecy was sold to us to create secrecy. It was a contrived effort with the USSR ebing set up in a recipricol position. The MAD policy was insane and just a tool to create fear and justify secrecy whereupon the military industrial complex went nuts within government hidden by secrecy.

Can you imagine how pitiful the efforts to decieve would have been IF the truth was released about the core.

NEWSCASTER:
"Authorities are puzzled at why the steel reinforced, tubular cast concrete core was so effected by fire. Never before has 1/2 million tons of concrete been reduced to sand and gravel by a single plane impact and jet fuel in 20 seconds. American universities are considering re thinking all physics ever taught".


It was totally necessary to lie about the core.

that is why the ex NYC mayor took the plans that were a part of the WTC documents.

http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html

And since GHB judicial appointments have been designed to create a situation where no lawsuit can get sh*t done.

That deception about the core was facilitated by releasing the preliminary plans showing steel core columns that Leslie Robertson sent to Minoru Yamasaki, that Yamasaki rejected because the steel columned core in the proportons of the Twin towers just flexes too much.

Those plans were faked to look as if they actually underwent extensive revisions by adding and faking the revisions table Check it out. I did an analysis that is conclusive. the scans were intentionally compressed a few times to make them unreadable so that FAKE dimensions could be introduced for the ID of the core. QUESTION any site that uses dimension larger than 80x120 for inside core dimesions. They are a part of the problem.

http://algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11Disinfo_fakeplan.html

Back to the flex of steel core columns. Remember the Tacoma narrows bridge in a 42 MPH wind.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&q=tacoma+narrows+bridge&total=80&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6

and that is fastened at both ends. A tower bearing mass loads oscillates even worse. the top of the tower starts to "fly" and twists. The concrete core resisted the torsion while absorbing laterla loads keeping the steel plumb, aligned in the position where it could bear maximum weight.

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Info specific to WTC 1 via the documentary, "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers". WTC 2 had differences in its concrete core.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Documentary Found, Intercepted. Your Help Needed Reply with quote

Christophera wrote:
Unfortunately the person with the one copy we know of is a widow with zero video skills and the only copy they can create is VHS video tape through a nieghbor.


Why doesn't someone go to this women's house with a laptop and vcr? Seems pretty simple. What's the big deal?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christophera,

It's highly likely that the design for what was in it's time the 'tallest buildings on earth' would have included installation of the system to eventually demolish it. The best, safest, and least expensive means for bringing such a massive structure down when it would hit it's projected 'expiration date' would be when the building is constructed.

It's well known that since the 1950's it was assumed that skyscrapers become obsolete within 50 years. Thus the City of New York must have ordinances and policies on the books requiring expecially that such huge monstrosities as the WTC complex would be required to be designed to have it's demolition system installed. Otherwise such an oversight would mean costing the owner of the building astronomically more to hire that done 40 years later.....as well as possibly being a hazard and risk of disaster for the City government to deal with itself in the future.

Such information would be in the building codes of the City of New York -- and such documents that such ordinances had been satisfied at the time by the architectural firm and construction companies involved in raising the WTC would be on record. Why hasn't anyone ever looked for those?

Seems like we have a new line of investigation here, for anyone living in New York with the time required to pursue it. That's a job for a law or engineering student, attorney, paralegal, who is experienced in researching and obtaining such records from the City of New York's particular system.

If there's a city ordinance requiring pre-planned demolition upon construction of skyscrapers above a certain height in New York City, even if the WTC records are 'lost' will be irrelevant. As the existence of the ordinance would confirm beyond question that they were locked and loaded all along.

As for the documentary, have you contacted PBS (WGBS Boston)? Like a newspaper or television news network, they keep archival material. In fact recently Masterpiece Theatre aired a thirty-five year retrospective of segments of series voted 'best' by viewers---and each segment looked like it had been aired for the first time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wu Li -

Can you please address this if you know anything about what Ormond says here?

This is complete utter total fucking bullshit to me.

Ormond, I can't believe you would even suggest this without having any idea whether or not it is true - but if it is true, then I will eat crow.

Ormond wrote:
Christophera,

It's highly likely that the design for what was in it's time the 'tallest buildings on earth' would have included installation of the system to eventually demolish it. The best, safest, and least expensive means for bringing such a massive structure down when it would hit it's projected 'expiration date' would be when the building is constructed.

It's well known that since the 1950's it was assumed that skyscrapers become obsolete within 50 years. Thus the City of New York must have ordinances and policies on the books requiring expecially that such huge monstrosities as the WTC complex would be required to be designed to have it's demolition system installed. Otherwise such an oversight would mean costing the owner of the building astronomically more to hire that done 40 years later.....as well as possibly being a hazard and risk of disaster for the City government to deal with itself in the future.

Such information would be in the building codes of the City of New York -- and such documents that such ordinances had been satisfied at the time by the architectural firm and construction companies involved in raising the WTC would be on record. Why hasn't anyone ever looked for those?

Seems like we have a new line of investigation here, for anyone living in New York with the time required to pursue it.

If there's a city ordinance requiring pre-planned demolition upon construction of skyscrapers above a certain height in New York City, even if the WTC records are 'lost' will be irrelevant. As the existence of the ordinance would confirm beyond question that they were locked and loaded all along.

I've been in RE my entire life - not NYC skyscrapers, but I have never ever heard such a thing - that doesn't mean it is not true, but fucking skyscrapers don't have 50 year lives! The fucking Empire State Building is still going strong and it will be 100 years old soon!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EPS News March 1996

In 1945 at the end of World War II, an Army Air Corps B-25 twin-engine bomber plane crashed into the 79th floor of the building in dense fog. Fewer, still, remember the miraculous survival of the woman who fell 75 stories when the cables to her elevator were severed.





The Empire State Building was built during 1930, opened in 1931. Absolutely everything about it's construction and history has been preserved for posteriety. For those who know something of the history of American architecture, skyscrapers built prior to the Seagram's Building were still built on the old pre-ww II notion of being 'built to last'. This philosophy changed for architects and city planners by 1958, who foresaw a future of a rapidly changing cityscapes and -- as with automobiles and everything else -- abandoned the 'built to last' notion in favor of architecture planned for several decades rather than several centuries.




In August 1977, I dined one night at the "Windows on the World" Restaurant on the top floor of WTC 1 with a host from the city who thought I would be overwhelmed by the building. Frankly, I thought it was a monstrosity. A wet dream of David Rockefeller who had to use considerable influence for over a decade to coerce the City and Port Authority into permitting the long planned waterfront district renovation to feature this amazingly vast yet sterile structure. It reminded me of Cape Kennedy's Vertical Assembly Building where the Saturn V rockets were built for the Apollo program...I had visited that too. Except with plush carpet, ambient lighting, and uniformed elevator attendants.

There's a lot of leads for paper trails to research on the full history and legal documents involved in the WTC project. The Port Authority and City's transit system were intimately involved, yielding more trails of records.
Hard to accept that piles of blueprints for at least aspects of these structures don't still exist in the various city departments.

History of the World Trade Center

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ormond wrote:
Christophera,

It's highly likely that the design for what was in it's time the 'tallest buildings on earth' would have included installation of the system to eventually demolish it. The best, safest, and least expensive means for bringing such a massive structure down when it would hit it's projected 'expiration date' would be when the building is constructed.

It's well known that since the 1950's it was assumed that skyscrapers become obsolete within 50 years. Thus the City of New York must have ordinances and policies on the books requiring expecially that such huge monstrosities as the WTC complex would be required to be designed to have it's demolition system installed. Otherwise such an oversight would mean costing the owner of the building astronomically more to hire that done 40 years later.....as well as possibly being a hazard and risk of disaster for the City government to deal with itself in the future.

Such information would be in the building codes of the City of New York -- and such documents that such ordinances had been satisfied at the time by the architectural firm and construction companies involved in raising the WTC would be on record. Why hasn't anyone ever looked for those?

Seems like we have a new line of investigation here, for anyone living in New York with the time required to pursue it. That's a job for a law or engineering student, attorney, paralegal, who is experienced in researching and obtaining such records from the City of New York's particular system.

If there's a city ordinance requiring pre-planned demolition upon construction of skyscrapers above a certain height in New York City, even if the WTC records are 'lost' will be irrelevant. As the existence of the ordinance would confirm beyond question that they were locked and loaded all along.

As for the documentary, have you contacted PBS (WGBS Boston)? Like a newspaper or television news network, they keep archival material. In fact recently Masterpiece Theatre aired a thirty-five year retrospective of segments of series voted 'best' by viewers---and each segment looked like it had been aired for the first time.


Very good points, all of them. Unfortunately over the years they've all been brought forth and followed up on.

The built to demolish aspect certainly would be what the engineers were tolds that designedthem. The fact they were global symbols makes them targets so that part is not to logical. Thin plastic tubing could have been cast in with explosives added later to effect a safe removal. The basic technology comes from self destruct sub bsaes and missle silos of the cold war.

I do not think that the NYC codes will have anything. the PA has immense control and could basically whatever it wanted. It writes its own rules.

Many people have contacted PBS and they claim no knowledge of it at the front desk. However, as said, a major metropolitan library had a copy until 3 years ago when it was checked out and not returned.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christophera wrote:
However, as said, a major metropolitan library had a copy until 3 years ago when it was checked out and not returned.


Stuff doesn't get returned to the library all the time. Get on a plane and go get the damn video from the one person who has it. Why make such a big deal over this. Just get the video.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

navari wrote:
Christophera wrote:
However, as said, a major metropolitan library had a copy until 3 years ago when it was checked out and not returned.


Stuff doesn't get returned to the library all the time. Get on a plane and go get the damn video from the one person who has it. Why make such a big deal over this. Just get the video.


Tha is exactly my position, but I do not know the person. It is another searcher that found them. The person with the video is in another state. I don't actually have any control over it. Excruciating situation.

I'll corroborate these facts.

Others yet are looking, so they may find copies. The issue is that all methods of communication are monitored, so all plans will be known. There is no more privacy. The anti terror measures are being used by the infiltrating perpetrators to protect themselves. We pay for it.

There must be thousands of the copies, and the people that have them have no idea of the value of the tapes.

My point is, the help that is needed, is to get the movement talking about the documentary, get the word out and start reaching out of the movement with inquiry.

I have learned one thing from the last 5 years of arguing for the concrete core on message boards. When resistence is found from positions of authority in the truth movement to the concrete, what is really found most often is opposition to the truth. So we can see this as an opportunity to purify the truth movement as well as secure the truth. Once the video is found, they will go along with it and their true nature will still be unknown. The sabotaging infiltrators of the movement remain unexposed.

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Christophera wrote:
I have learned one thing from the last 5 years of arguing for the concrete core on message boards. When resistence is found from positions of authority in the truth movement to the concrete, what is really found most often is opposition to the truth. So we can see this as an opportunity to purify the truth movement as well as secure the truth. Once the video is found, they will go along with it and their true nature will still be unknown. The sabotaging infiltrators of the movement remain unexposed.


Look, don't turn this into a religion.

Also, I don't buy that ALL mechanisms of communication are tapped. This
is freaking paranoia beyond belief. The psyops are working well, aren't
they? This full spectrum psychological dominance bullshit is unbelievable.
All they gotta do is "say" they're doing something and we go into a
freaking cave.

Put a damn notice on Craigslist or perhaps in the newspaper - "$100 bucks
for anyone that has a tape of the PBS WTC documentary." Somebody
we'll answer the ad.

Geesh, perhaps we're all spending just a little too much fucking time in
front of the virtual forums?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

navari wrote:
Christophera wrote:
I have learned one thing from the last 5 years of arguing for the concrete core on message boards. When resistence is found from positions of authority in the truth movement to the concrete, what is really found most often is opposition to the truth. So we can see this as an opportunity to purify the truth movement as well as secure the truth. Once the video is found, they will go along with it and their true nature will still be unknown. The sabotaging infiltrators of the movement remain unexposed.


Look, don't turn this into a religion.

Also, I don't buy that ALL mechanisms of communication are tapped. This
is freaking paranoia beyond belief. The psyops are working well, aren't
they? This full spectrum psychological dominance bullshit is unbelievable.
All they gotta do is "say" they're doing something and we go into a
freaking cave.

Put a damn notice on Craigslist or perhaps in the newspaper - "$100 bucks
for anyone that has a tape of the PBS WTC documentary." Somebody
we'll answer the ad.

Geesh, perhaps we're all spending just a little too much fucking time in
front of the virtual forums?


You are correct, and it is a good idea, just done. The problem appears to come up later, after someone answers the ad. We will see how it goes.

I've heard from many sources that homeland security, NSA, DOES have a track on every single phone line and computers are sampling speech at phenomenal rates and making comparisons to keywords. These are technologies I understand as being pretty functional, but I don't give a great deal of credence to many others that are rumoured to exist.

Meanwhile, I was interviewed last Wednesday on "Liberty Calling Beacon" and Dr. Ron Larsen, Ph.D talks about our locations of the documentary and efforts to get copy. Download the .mp3.

http://www.mediafire.com/?dogzudruzem

Another interview happens tomorrow AM at 7:AM PST.

http://www.live365.com/stations/ronelar

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