Uncovered: The Rat's Nest of 9/11

[dilbert_g]

"Patrick Fitzgerald, who is prosecuting Libby, handled the 1993 World Trade
Center bombing prosecution of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman. Another, shall
we say, "sensitive" case. "

Ralph Schoenman --- whatever you think of him -- has COMPELLING audio on Fitzgerald and the Plame case on www.takingaim.info See Night of the Long Knives, part 1 and 2.

SERIOUSLY.

WTC 1993 was run from top to bottom by FBI, except for the parking of the van. At least several people confirmed that, from Rivero to the NYT and LA Times, and others, mostly in bits and pieces.

Fitz also put Lynne Stewart up for 30 years.
Fitz said 1993 was "Al-Qaeda" and he may have even been one of the NY prosecutors who was the inventor of the name "Al-Qaeda".

He reiterates "CIA IS NOT YOUR FRIEND" and Plame's husband Wilson was part of the plot to get Saddam to invade Kuwait, with Scowcroft on the other end.

[kawazu]

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[Jerry Fletcher]

While I don't understand or 'use' numerology or anything, I still think there is incredible occult power in 'numbers'.

I think numbers and math are equivalent to the formation of language in the development of human kind. The ability to think in terms of abstractions is huge - it is one of the things that defines a human brain, and allows communication, cooperation, and civilization to occur. It's also possible that there are other 'uses' or 'modes' for these symbols we all recognize as numbers or words. After all, one cannot realize his own worth unless he as the ability to 'count' his money.

Just as the builders of Solomon's temple had to 'do the math' in order to reliably construct a sturdy monument, perhaps the social engineers of the NWO also employ a 'set of formulas' that can be visible in the blueprints of their new 'Temple', essentially, the psyche of the emerging global citizen.

The Bible is filled with stories involving numbers that suggest historical ties to astrotheology, alchemy, and other occult disciplines - the same numbers that supposedly hold occult significance still (3,13,666, etc).

Interestingly, Aleister Crowley had an apparently good relationship with the number 11.

[kawazu]

[Jerry Fletcher]

[dilbert_g]

I don't know if anyone noticed this yet. It's an amusing piece of what I would call true gossip.

"If Jimmy Walter is not working consciously to undermine the 9/11 truth movement, then he is the patsy of the disinformation campaign. His publicist is Ilene Proctor, whose normal clientele consists of minor Hollywood celebrities and pop stars. One of her clients was the lip-synching Milli Vanilli ..."

It's on Rabinowitz oilempire, which is a Ruppert cheerleader site with more graphics. I wanted to email him because he seems sincere, but his email's not posted. (then again, mine is present but buried on my site too).

In terms of presenting this to others, in stages

I'm not 100% convinced of Peak Oil one way or another. I'm leaning heavily towards what Fintan has found to be strong evidence to indicate it's a hoax, but one thing for sure, Peak Oil is completely irrelevant to 9-11 the crime. It "could" explain "why" in some sense, but that's immaterial. The "why" is like a mitigating argument a defense atty would use before sentencing, like "he is a good father".

It's the tie-in to 9-11 that's purely theoretical. Iow, they certainly would not need "the end of oil", real or not, to carry out a MIHOP for all the global financial/tyranny/fear reasons which Fintan lays out, and frankly which I had tossed around before I met you guys - the point of Ledeen having written a book on Global fascism, and the semi-known CIA-Bush ties to fascism.

In my conclusion, lack of "peak oil" does not debunk 9-11, while insistence on it IS a poison pill.

Has anyone seen G. Edward Griffin (Libertarian) covering LIHOPs on World War 1 and World War 2? He doesn't call them "LIHOP" but he calmly states that they were, and that the declassified memos prove it. He also generally thinks that 9-11 was probably an inside job.

I've taken to calling Northwoods NOT "proof of the 9-11 plan" like Jones says, but rather proof of "means, motive, and opportunity" + willingness and strong intention to kill Americans for war and profit and anti-communist hysteria. I got the impression from arguing with people that it's important to set limits on what each "anomaly X" proves, so you don't look like a quack.

At this point, I agree with you all that there's stronger evidence for MIHOP and no Arabs whatsoever, since there is only flimsy evidence that any "Al-Qaeda" was involved, except as a distraction. There's reasonabe evidence to throw up big questions on the theory that any Arabs did actually fly planes, since the accused weren't Jihadists and since all or many of them were CIA going way back.

And there's fairly good evidence that Global Hawk technology could have been used, and probably was needed for the Pentagon attack, unlike Jones who says it WAS used.

Regardless of disinfo that whatreallyhappened promotes, does everyone concur with their fake osama page with the comparison btw the old Osama and the govt video? It sure don't look like the same guy to me.

Whatever criticisms of Chossudovsky, his associations, his detailed approach, his stance on Iran, the Osamagate page --- where he proves conclusively that Osama is NOT who the USG says he is, i.e. an outside enemy --- I think is still valid.

Likewise, I still think that Choss/Ruppert's coverage of The Grand Chessboard is valid, it's just that he then soaks it in peak oil!!

I'm totally on-board with the "G8", and basically Chossudovsky hints at the same thing back in 2001 when he talks about geopolitics, because it's so obvious on the big picture. But in argument with anyone new, some of the original valid points must stand up, otherwise, you are back to "the G8 fighting a legit WoT".

I like what Jim Hoffman did, in separating Gold vs. Fools Gold on Loose Change, although it's very clear that the intention of the flick is just confusion.

anyone have time to concur / dispute these details?

[Jerry Fletcher]

[Ormond]

[kawazu]

[Toto]

Its all related. They are pulling all the stops now. They kind of have too really. Peak Oil = limitation the end is near = a life of less choice and 911 = fear = security = limitation = stay home and be protected. The bible says these are the end times when really these are the change times. It does not matter if the Elite believe in all this religious nonsense. They dont have to believe we do. Belief creates reality.

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[Jerry Fletcher]

[dilbert_g]

I was looking up some stuff on the Iranian Rev (the relations btw Iran and the US, how the Shah was overthrown, how the crisis was managed, Brzezinski's role) and there was links to Robert Parry's articles on Wiki.

Parry had some GOOD stuff on that, the October Surprise conspiracy. He dug into the filebox (below the tampon dispenser, in the Ladies room, at the back of the parking garage) and found a lot of incriminating memos and other info that would completely discredit the entire Republican reign of Reagan-Bush, and their "image".

He also found Democrat collusion to bury the facts, and media collusion to keep quiet, for various reasons. It was interesting, in 'partisan' terms, and in showing up more treason and how the game is played: power, intimidation, yelling, blackmail, etc.

It even involved BCCI, a lot of details.

Basically, the 'evidence' exonerated Bush and Colby, supporting the idea it was a myth or rumor, just so long as the committee picked only certain evidence, and ignored chunks. One guy even suggested a 'trap door' statement, about "evidence that may have been overlooked, stray questions, yada yada" as a cover story, should it ever emerge that they lied.

But Parry's homepage "Consortium News" stuff is SO half-inch deep. Yuck.