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Ozregeneration



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Communitarianism Reply with quote

From another board Ormond was saying the following:

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I've read the International Criminal Court document drafted in Rome in 1989, and the UN's 'Agenda 21' from the same time. These override national rights and laws of any member nation in the UN. Agenda 21 speaks of abolishinig private property, and relocating whole populations to 'habitat zones', under enforcement by UN 'Peace Keepers'. What's been happening under a series of Globalist presidents and prostitute legislature has been preparation for these actions to become reality. The dissolving of borders, doing away with protections of private property, not to mention the morphing of intelligence agencies into a super-agency with domestic jurisdiction, etc.


Now I've just been reading through some of your postings relating to Agenda 21, and what they have planned. It was interesting cause only recently, while listening to a recent Jack Smith audio he was talking about the latest ism, Communitarianism. This is where the shift in focus of interest moves toward communities and societies and away from the individual. Though it has been around for some time in those think-tank universities, he was suggesting that it is the real playbook used by our political parties. This would make sense as over the years we have seen all the main political parties around the world coming up with policies which are virtually indistinguishable. However, to keep the game going, they continue to use the terms, conservative/liberal, Labour/Liberal, Republicans/Democrats. Recently people have been using the terms Republicrats and Democans, but maybe they should be just calling them Communitarian.


The Third Way & Communitarianism


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CAFTA, like most international trade agreements, is based entirely in the supremacy of communitarian law. This isn't Bush and Clinton quietly slipping in communitarian programs like Local Agenda 21 that bury communitarian laws deep inside hefty grants and incentives. The U.S. Congress has officially denounced their own Constitution as Supreme Law. When the United States Congress approved CAFTA they endorsed a regional trade agreement that places U.S. Constitutional Law below Communitarian Law.... CAFTA officials openly discuss using the EU as their model for communitarian case law.

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Communitarians promote a thing called human rights, a theory of justice which is totally the opposite of individual rights. Individual rights are what the U.S. Bill of Rights was established to protect. Human Rights covers every aspect of human suffering and death. Unlike clear laws that protect individual liberty, Human Rights can only be enforced by a supreme global communitarian legal system. What Americans really don't understand is that ultimately, Human Rights includes the Marxist mandates for confiscation and "equal" distribution of private property and goods. In the logic of the globalists, individual rights to protect yourself, your property, and the freedom to choose ones' own life path, are ancient, outdated barriers to global peace and justice. Does it matter to Americans (or Iraqis) if individual rights are being criminalized under communitarian laws?

CAFTA, THE EU & COMMUNITARIAN LAW


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Communitarianism Reply with quote

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the latest ism, Communitarianism. This is where the shift in focus of interest moves toward communities and societies and away from the individual.


WHOA! Good research, Oz. I hadn't heard about this yet. Bingo.
I haven't been on to looking into the dark recess of the UN documents till very recently, so this is indeed helps connect a lotta dots in a fell swoop.

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is how communitarians think.

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"The communitarian movement seeks to raise the commitment to social responsibilities to correct for decades of excessive focus on individual rights."

Communitarian Network ~ http://www.gwu.edu/~ccps/biblio.html


Googled these:

GHW BUSH + COMMUNITRAIAN yes

BILL CLINTON + COMMUNITARIAN yes

GW BUSH + COMMUNITARIAN yes

JOHN KERRY + COMMUNITARIAN yes

HILLARY CLINTON + COMMUNITARIAN yes

This article describes the mind set of communtarianism, a list of public figures who brought it into public policy during the 1980's.

http://nord.twu.net/acl/hilary.html

How to spot communitarian rhetoric:

"I have spoken of a thousand points of light, of all the community organizations that are spread like stars throughout the Nation"
George Herbert Walker Bush

"women hold up half the sky" ~ a favorite phrase in some Hillary Clinton speeches, originally printed in Mao Tse Tung's "Little Red Book"

That's the rhetoric for the public speeches. Remember this fundamental bias of this mind set.
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to correct for decades of excessive focus on individual rights."

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ormond wrote:
Here is how communitarians think.
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"The communitarian movement seeks to raise the commitment to social responsibilities to correct for decades of excessive focus on individual rights."

Communitarian Network ~ http://www.gwu.edu/~ccps/biblio.html


It certainly explains how the politics has been played out over the years. The Hilary article was bang on. Out of curiosity I looked up the definition of some words in Blacks 1st Law Dictionary and it says the following:
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COMMUNITY. A society of people living in the same place, under the same laws and regulations, and who have common rights and privileges.

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COMMUNISM. A name giving to proposed systems of life or social organization based upon the fundamental principle of the non-existence of private property and of a community of goods in society.

It certainly has an Agenda 21 ring to it...

I believe Communitarianism will also have appeal to many people as it appears from the outside to coincide with a spiritual progression from duality to oneness which many are exploring. Once again the mirror at play. The difference being however, in the "ideal" world the uniqueness of every living soul within the oneness would be cherished and blessed, in a Communitarian world I see it being squashed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Communitarian = Helping to death.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe Communitarianism will also have appeal to many people as it appears from the outside to coincide with a spiritual progression from duality to oneness which many are exploring.


I hear ya, Oz. But what I get is that this 'movement' wrapped up in rainbows and touchy feely Fascist/Socialism isn't inteded for broad public consumption.
I never heard the term till you posted this discussion. This "ism" was created as a snow job to keep the high IQ educated creative/productive middle class think tank and bureaucrat minions from realizing that their devotion to world 'improvement' is part and parcel with bodies lying in trenches in parts of the world they don't live in......yet.

Makes sense of all those weird speeches that GHW Bush and the Clintons have made from time to time like the 'Thousand points of light' speech. When he gave that in the 80's I thought somebody had slipped some acid in his Chateaux Neuf D'Pap, but I see where the 'kinder, gentler' rhetoric was coming from now, in that Mr. Rogers voice.

The 20th century was the long field test of the 'isms' for world order (bee hive 'perfect' system they envision)......Orwell's 'iron fist' Communism was being tested in China and the Soviet Union.......Huxley's 'kinder gentler' totalitarianism was being played in the west.

The future is synthesis of these flavors. They still need producers to make their world run, the highly intelligent, 'useful idiots' will live blissfully in the Huxlian version of "habitat zones'......insulated from the reality that there are Owellian zones where depopulation of the 'useless eaters' will be steam shovelling mass graves that won't be 'politically correct' to bother with talking about on the media.
A bit further down the ladder witll be the duller useful idiots who better tow the line under the constant presence of the Imperial Police consisting or PTSD cases back from programming in Iraq.

wait.....I'm looking too far ahead here......gonna lose some viewers. Let's take a break with some comic relief. We're going to need to keep a sense of humor to get through this stuff:
http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/shortfilms/troops/

So I'll just say I think that's where this will lead progressivly up to their 'touchdown' date of 2020, if enough 'useful idiots' in the comfort zones don't get wise and snap out of the soma coma.

One factor on our side is that the faction who know the full story and are actually having wet dreams about it are few.....maybe 6 million or so humans who never had to actually create or produce anything in their lives? Living in delusions of grandeur on the loot grandaddy left mommy and daddy from the industrial revolution? Parasites.
They control the Glocal economy, but on factor they need to pull power insatiable vision off is the ignorance and blind loyalty of the bright functionaries to make their system go. All those people in suits driving nice cars and living well leveraged into tomorrow on credit. The ones who currently are living in a separate reality and in a state of being fully funcitional producers of everything from IT to legal to management. This is the class that could bring the parasites with the 'Plan' to their knees, if they can wake up from the scam.

Millions of rabble aren't going to be able to gum up the works, no matter how many march in the streets. That's what the new secret army and police forces their building are for.

It's going to take the class currently working in the tall shiney buildings and office parks, who go home and zone out on 58" high definitiion satellite TV, cushy living, and prozac and ritilan who need to catch a glimpse of how their being exploited too. 'Early retirement' is the plan.......what with early Alzheimers and 'assisted suicide' and euthenasia plannned for them too, when they burn out.

That's who needs to get hip to the Big Picture.
Cancel the satellite TV bill and dump the microwave cel phone 'yuppie leash', and read up on Malthus, Marx, and see the continuity of those notions now written up in UN departmental agendas and protocols.

The REAL creators/producers are the key to this thing.

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ormond wrote:
I hear ya, Oz. But what I get is that this 'movement' wrapped up in rainbows and touchy feely Fascist/Socialism isn't inteded for broad public consumption.
I never heard the term till you posted this discussion. This "ism" was created as a snow job to keep the high IQ educated creative/productive middle class think tank and bureaucrat minions from realizing that their devotion to world 'improvement' is part and parcel with bodies lying in trenches in parts of the world they don't live in......yet.


I guess I was assuming that it would get out at some time, probably as the UN becomes more of an attractive propersition.

Ormond wrote:
The REAL creators/producers are the key to this thing.


Yes, and as they wake up things will change.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God only knows what kind of mind bending will come out if Hillary gets the Oval Office. We've had 6 years of a figurehead who is a real idiot who can barely speak English, and Clinton was opaque.

Hillary will make long winded, trigger charged speeches. She spoke in China quoting Mao's red book, "women hold up half the sky".
Harken's to the mysterious speeches of the Senior Bush....."A thousand point of light".

She's a real change agent. The sort of talky figurehead that they want when change acceleration is going to be rapid.

This term you found has been around all this time, and I've never heard one of them announce it. Hillary is the big change agent spokesman, maybe she wll.

Whatever they call it, it's just a new term for the blend of Communism and Corporate Fascism that it's really all about. Painted in New Age pinks and Hojo Aqua. Candy coated poison.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: You got it Reply with quote

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Whatever they call it, it's just a new term for the blend of Communism and Corporate Fascism that it's really all about. Painted in New Age pinks and Hojo Aqua. Candy coated poison.


When they supposedly promoted individualism it was via John Wayne. They generate boxes for our perceptions and expect us to stay within the lines.
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