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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Official Pre-911 Documents Reply with quote

Defend Against the Shadow Enemy
United States Senate Hearing
September 5, 2001
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_senate_hearings&docid=f:75040.wais
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Can't get the link working. What is it?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gotta use IE, not Fox or other, it's a "GetFile" command
try this: http://www.Takeoverworld.info/bioterror_hearing_2001,09-05.htm

THE THREAT OF BIOTERRORISM AND THE SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES

===============================================

HEARING

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

UNITED STATES SENATE

ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION
__________

SEPTEMBER 5, 2001
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(not CFR Council on Foreign Relations)

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

JOSEPH R. BIDEN, Jr., Delaware, Chairman
PAUL S. SARBANES, Maryland JESSE HELMS, North Carolina
CHRISTOPHER J. DODD, Connecticut RICHARD G. LUGAR, Indiana
JOHN F. KERRY, Massachusetts CHUCK HAGEL, Nebraska
RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin GORDON H. SMITH, Oregon
PAUL D. WELLSTONE, Minnesota BILL FRIST, Tennessee
BARBARA BOXER, California LINCOLN D. CHAFEE, Rhode Island
ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey GEORGE ALLEN, Virginia
BILL NELSON, Florida SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas
JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, West MICHAEL B. ENZI, Wyoming
Virginia
Edwin K. Hall, Staff Director
Patricia A. McNerney, Republican Staff Director


I have not read it all, yet. Some sounds ominous, some is critical of Bush. In particular, given Bush's 1999 speech posted elsewhere by Freedomfiles, on scrapping the outdated ABM treaty and emphasis on Homeland Defense against terrorism, these guys are writing like it's a surprise.

National security, to state the obvious, is the first
obligation of every government. And the test of how well we
meet that obligation is whether whatever action we take makes
us more or less secure in the end.
There are some very difficult decisions with hard choices
relating to strategic doctrine, foreign policy, threat
assessment and economic constraints that every President and
every government has to face.
And just as we would all agree that we would provide for
the health care of all if we had unlimited funds, when there
are not unlimited funds we have to make difficult choices. We
have to make the same kinds of decisions in terms of our
national security.

One aspect of our sacred responsibility to our fellow
citizens, to provide for the physical security of our Armed
Forces and to protect our homeland, is how we go about this
process.
This is the first in a series of hearings on what have been
termed ``Homeland Defense and Protecting U.S. Military
Forces,''
where we will focus on the threats to our homeland
and attempt to assess what those threats are and prioritize
them to be able to make rational recommendations to our
colleagues.
These hearings have taken on an added sense of urgency in
my view for two reasons: The most ominous reason is there
appears to be an overwhelming focus, I would subjectively
characterize as a myopic focus, on national missile defense by
the Bush administration.
We appear to be about to jettison 50 years of strategic
doctrine
grounded on three basic principles: One, reduce the
number of nuclear weapons in the world and prevent
proliferation to other countries; Two, stop all nuclear weapons
testing, because only with new testing can new weapons of mass
destruction be developed. And the United States is far ahead of
the game.
And, Three, diminish or eliminate the reliance on those
nuclear weapons which are most vulnerable and therefore the
least stable because they are most likely to be used on short
warning. These have been at least three of the basic principles
of our strategic doctrine for the last five decades.
But, for example on August 16, Secretary Rumsfeld told the
``Lehrer News Hour'' that he didn't care if other countries
responded to a U.S. missile defense by MIRV'ing or re-MIRV'ing
their ICBMs.
He added, ``What really counts is the total number
of weapons.''
In doing so, the Secretary threw out decades of rightful
concern over crisis stability
which lead to the landmark
efforts by the Reagan and Bush administrations to get the
Soviet Union to give up MIRVed ICBMs. In the interest of
missile defense, Secretary Rumsfeld reduced our nuclear
strategy to a simple numbers game
.
Later last month, Under Secretary of State Bolton suggested
that we might withdraw from the ABM Treaty if President Putin
does not agree by November to scrap the treaty.
(this is the blackmail Bush previously talked about -- we'll either dump it bi-laterally or uni-laterally, your choice)
Russian officials had publicly declared their willingness
to amend the ABM Treaty. But obviously an amendment does
nothing.
...
But I have yet to hear any serious U.S. proposals or any
rational explanation of why we cannot amend the ABM Treaty to
permit the testing that the administration wants conducted.
(just give it a few more days, rational explanation's will no longer be necessary or tolerated)
...
something that the administration may be
willing to pay in order to be able to move forward with an
untested, undeclared national missile defense.
A few months ago, and I don't want to get in the middle of
this but there is a former famous Senator who may testify today
who warned against making missile defense an issue of theology.
Looking at recent administration actions, I'm beginning to
wonder whether we run into theology or technology.
...
Obviously, we don't have enough money to do everything. The
estimates for the 10-year cost for modernizing our conventional
forces range from $250 to $650 billion over 10 years. So these
are the two reasons for the urgency of these hearings.
(if $250 to $650 billion over 10 years was considered shocking and impossible, where the fuck are we NOW?!!)
...
This hearing will give us insight into how well prepared we
are to engage those [accidental or intentional bioterror] threats and what we need to do
if we are not fully prepared, and hopefully we'll have some estimate of
the costs of doing all this.
Our first panel will focus on the truly harrowing
consequences
that a bioterrorist attack would have on our
people and indeed on our democratic political system. Former
Senator Sam Nunn and former Director of Central Intelligence
Jim Woolsey
have participated in a chilling simulated exercise
called "Dark Winter.''
...

So this committee is opposing some of this, or pretending to. Again, ASSUMING they were seriously in opposition at this point, then I can see how Sept 11 was intended to be used as a PSYOP on ALL of Congress and the Military as well --- I mean those NOT in the know, and those not ALREADY committed to the PNAC (or DLC) vision of the American Century. Not only used on "us rabble", everyone got hit with shock and awe. It is unfathomable that KEY foreign Intell and Security Intell people would not be in-the-know. It's not as though stuff that I know about Gladio and Northwoods would be a secret to them, especially after their official release. I can see the chickenshit fear they might have of even mentioning Northwoods or "questions" about Sept 11. However I might concede that every Jr. Congressman or maybe even Senator from Podunk on some domestic committee might not really have been clued in, before or after.

What if a group of Congress had been serious enough to band together and make a public statement, form a committee, break from party lines? Not to be.

I guess I'll read the rest of it later, this is MANY pages long.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Defend Against the Shadow Enemy Reply with quote

Sorry, the article is indeed rather long. I found this part the most interesting however, about the World Trade Center and about events similar to Pearl Harbor, especially since it was published in the days preceding the 9/11 attacks :

Quote:

Joseph S. Nye

Defend Against the Shadow Enemy
By Joseph S. Nye, Jr. and R. James Woolsey
United States Senate,
September 5, 2001
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_senate_hearings&docid=f:75040.wais

The destruction of the federal building in Oklahoma City and the bombing of the World Trade Center in New York shocked Americans. But those tragedies would have been far worse if nuclear, biological or chemical materials had been involved. After co-chairing a year-long study for the government, we believe it is increasingly likely they will be.

For 40 years Americans lived under the fear of Soviet nuclear attack. The end of the cold war reduced the prospect of a nuclear holocaust, but ironically, prospects of a nuclear explosion inside the United States probably have increased. And it is not just the nuclear threat. Terrorists worldwide have better access to anthrax or sarin than to nuclear materials. So far, we have been lucky. But we should not wait for another Pearl Harbor to awaken us to the fact that there is no greater threat to our security than terrorism involving weapons of mass destruction.

Skeptics may call us alarmists. Nuclear technology has been around for 50 years and chemical and biological agents for nearly a century, yet terrorists have rarely turned to them. Conventional high explosives are easier to obtain. Moreover, terrorists seeking to promote a cause run the risk of a moral and political backlash if the destruction they wreak is disproportionate to their cause.

But recent years have seen the rise of a new type of terrorist less interested in promoting a political cause and more focused on retribution or eradication of what they define as evil. Their motives are often a distorted form of religion and their imagined rewards are in the next world. For them, weapons of mass destruction, if available, are a more efficient means to their ends.

Our overriding recommendation is to give the threat of terrorism with weapons of mass destruction the highest priority in U.S. national security policy. Of the threats that could inflict major damage to theU.S., such terrorism is the threat for which we are least prepared.

The nation needs a national response program, directed by the White House. The program must be coordinated and integrated across the entire federal bureaucracy. And end-to-end systematic strategy to encounter this threat must address all phases of a potential terrorist attack, from detection and prevention to response. Such a strategy must include and coordinate program initiatives by all involved departments and agencies.

To this end, we recommend that:

    -Policy direction be clarified at the White House level by a committee chaired by the Vice President.
    -Interagency and interdepartmental coordination and integration be handled by deputies of the involved organization.
    -The program be supported by a long-term funding strategy.
    -The program be managed by a single director and supported by a technical and systems planning staff.
    -An independent advisory board of outside experts be appointed by the President to monitor and advise the program.
    -A joint legislative oversight committee be appointed.


The very nature of U.S. society makes it difficult to prepare for this security problem. Within recent memory, we have not had to battle a foreign invading force on U.S. soil. Because of our ``Pearl Harbor’’ mind-set, we are unlikely to mount an adequate defense until we suffer an attack.

Because the threat of terrorism with weapons of mass destruction is amorphous (rogue states, transnational groups, ad hoc groups or individuals) and constantly changing, it is difficult to make predictions and preparations.

However, given the current geopolitical state of the world, there is every indication that terrorism will be the most likely physical threat to the U.S. homeland for at least the next decade. Only if we go beyond business as usual and respond in a broader and more systematic manner do we stand a chance of dealing with this problem before the horror of another Pearl Harbor.

Joseph S. Nye, Jr., was Assistant Secretary of Defense
R. James Woolsey was the CIA Director in the first Clinton administration.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, IE will never be an option for me. Appreciate it a bunch.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumsfeld on June 21, 2001 :

Quote:
Prepared Testimony of U.S. Secretary of Defense
Donald H. Rumsfeld

Senate Armed Services Committee
Thursday, June 21, 2001
http://www.senate.gov/~armed_services/statemnt/2001/010621rumsfeld.pdf

Change is difficult. Changing the Defense Department is like turning a great aircraft carrier -- it does not turn on a dime.

But the greatest threat to our position today is complacency.

Thankfully, Americans no longer wake up each morning and fret about the possibility of a thermonuclear exchange with the old Soviet Union. They look at the world, and see peace, prosperity and opportunity ahead of them. We need the humility to recognize that, while America has capabilities, we are not invulnerable – and our current situation is not a permanent condition. If we don’t act now, new threats will emerge to surprise us, as they have so often in the past. The
difference is that today weapons are vastly more powerful.

Mr. Chairman, I have spent the past 25 years in business. Any successful
executive will confirm that the safest and best time for a business to adapt is when it is on top – and the most dangerous is to wait until an innovative competitor comes along and finds a way to attack your position.

Today America is strong; we face no immediate threat to our existence as a nation or our way of life; we live in an increasingly democratic world, where our military power – working in concert with friends and allies – helps contribute to peace, stability, and growing prosperity. Indeed, it is the underpinning of world economic prosperity. But simply hanging on and simply doing more of the same could be a serious
mistake.


My hope is to work with you, Mr. Chairman, and the members of the House and Senate. That is why I am here today to discuss these matters. That is why we have undertaken these consultations with our allies, and the intensive discussions with our senior military leaders.

A window of opportunity is open to us. But the world is changing, and unless we change we will find ourselves facing new and daunting threats we did not expect and will be unprepared to meet.

During the Civil War, a Union General named John Sedgewick stood surveying his Confederate adversary across the battlefield. Confident of his superior position, he turned to an aide and said, “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.” A moment later, a sharpshooter’s bullet struck him under his left eye, killing him instantly.

Complacency can kill. Thank you.


Senator John Warner on June 28, 2001 :

Quote:
Testimony Before the Senate Armed Services Committee: Fiscal Year 2002 National Defense Authorization Budget Request
June 28, 2001
http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/2001/s20010628-secdef3.html

I certainly commend our president when he was a candidate and indeed now that he's president, has recognized that we have a situation here at home where perhaps only in the times of World War II did we consider "homeland defense." And this committee, I'm proud, under the leadership of our former Chairman Roberts, and now our new Chairman Landrieu, the committee that looks at the future, the threats to this nation, are bearing down again on homeland defense. And I'll be scrutinizing your budget submissions to make sure that it's adequate, because we've got to prepare for an attack here at home of a terrorist nature in some form right in the cities here in the United States, and how best this nation responds.


Rumsfeld, the day after the Senate hearing above, on September 6, 2001 :

Quote:
Every Nickel Important in 2002 DoD Budget Request
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Sept. 6, 2001
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n09062001_200109064.html

As we prepare for the new challenges … certainly U.S. homeland defense takes on an increasing importance, he said. Asymmetric threats are the more likely threats in the period ahead, he said. These threats include terrorism, attacks by cruise missiles, ballistic missile threats and cyberattacks, and DoD must address these issues.

"The proliferation of weapons with increasing range and power in the hands of multiple potential adversaries means that the coming years will see an expansion of the risks to U.S. population centers as well as our allies and friends," Rumsfeld said. "We will face new threats. Today we're vulnerable to missile attack. That's a fact. And as has been suggested by the chairman, weakness is provocative. It invites people into doing things that they otherwise would avoid."


Rumsfeld on September 10, 2001: Declaration of War on the Bureaucracy at the Pentagon (if you read the complete article, you could consider whether his objectives were reached using the 9/11 attacks which took place the next day?) :

Quote:
Rumsfeld: From Bureaucracy to Battlefield
September 10, 2001
http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/2001/s20010910-secdef.html

The topic today is an adversary that poses a threat, a serious threat, to the security of the United States of America. This adversary is one of the world's last bastions of central planning. It governs by dictating five-year plans. From a single capital, it attempts to impose its demands across time zones, continents, oceans and beyond. With brutal consistency, it stifles free thought and crushes new ideas. It disrupts the defense of the United States and places the lives of men and women in uniform at risk.

Perhaps this adversary sounds like the former Soviet Union, but that enemy is gone: our foes are more subtle and implacable today. You may think I'm describing one of the last decrepit dictators of the world. But their day, too, is almost past, and they cannot match the strength and size of this adversary.

The adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. Not the people, but the processes. Not the civilians, but the systems. Not the men and women in uniform, but the uniformity of thought and action that we too often impose on them.

A new idea ignored may be the next threat overlooked. A person employed in a redundant task is one who could be countering terrorism or nuclear proliferation. Every dollar squandered on waste is one denied to the warfighter. That's why we're here today challenging us all to wage an all-out campaign to shift Pentagon's resources from bureaucracy to the battlefield, from tail to the tooth.

We know the adversary. We know the threat. And with the same firmness of purpose that any effort against a determined adversary demands, we must get at it and stay at it.

So today we declare war on bureaucracy, not people, but processes, a campaign to shift Pentagon resources from the tail to the tooth. All hands will be required, and it will take the best of all of us.

Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself.

It's really about the security of the United States of America. And let there be no mistake, it is a matter of life and death. Our job is defending America, and if we cannot change the way we do business, then we cannot do our job well, and we must.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to go to a local meeting on Iran, but here's the original:

try this: www.Takeoverworld.info/bioterror_hearing_2001,09-05.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a number of radio broadcasts from National Public Radio, predating the 9/11 attacks, in which the defense plans of the GWB administration were discussed. Very interesting to hear what experts had to say on this issue before the 9/11 attacks took place.

The first clip includes Joseph Nye, the author of the piece above "Defend against the Shadow Enemy" and Thomas Donnelly (Project for the New American Century, on 9/10 about the American hegemony :

Quote:
Talk of the Nation: An American Empire? (September 10, 2001)

Thomas Donnelly (Project for the New American Century)
Joseph Nye (Kennedy School of Government)
Victor Davis Hanson (California State University)


The Unites States has military forces in many countries around the world. And despite promises to cut back on military commitments, President Bush has decided to maintain the U.S. force in countries like the Balkans.

Is it time to abandon euphemisms and hail the establishment of the American Empire?

The U.S. As an Empire, Revisited (September 10, 2002)

Weekend Edition: Pentagon Review (August 4, 2001)

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is at the helm of a Pentagon in transition and under review. Scott discusses the performance of the "SecDef" with Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Thomas Donnelly, Deputy Executive Director of the Project for the New American Century.

Morning Edition: Samuel Berger Rebuttal (August 2, 2001)

Samuel Berger, who was a national security adviser to former president Bill Clinton, agrees that the threat is real, but has reservations about President Bush's approach to the issue.

Morning Edition: Rumsfeld Opposition (July 17, 2001)

Host Bob Edwards talks with The Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol about his editorial calling for the resignation of Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy Paul Wolfowitz. Kristol says while the demand may seem extreme, he wants to call attention to Rumsfeld's failure to push for an increased Defense Department budget.

Weekend Edition Sunday: Global Terrorism (June 24, 2001)

NPR Senior News Analyst Daniel Schorr says there is increasing concern over terrorism against Americans around the globe. U.S. forces in the Middle East were put on high alert after intelligence warnings of a terrorist attack. There has even been a warning, from the head of Russian President Putin's bodyguard service, of an attempt on President Bush's life during the July G-8 Summit in Genoa.

All Things Considered: National Defense Strategy (June 21, 2001)

It's time for the United States to adopt a new strategy for its national defense, says Pentagon boss Donald Rumsfeld. The Bush administration's secretary of defense told a congressional committee today that the aftermath of the Cold War is giving way to new challenges that require preparation now for conflicts well in the future.

Morning Edition: Body of Secrets (June 7, 2001)

Host Bob Edwards talks to author James Bamford about the shadowy role played by the National Security Agency in world history. Bamford is a former investigative journalist and the author of a new book about the NSA: Body of Secrets.

Morning Edition: Broke Pentagon (June 1, 2001)

NPR's Tom Gjelten reports on the Pentagon's money problems. Officials claim they don't have enough left in their budget to make it through the remainder of fiscal year 2001. The White House is now set to request an extra $5.6 billion from Congress to tide the Pentagon over until 2002.

Fresh Air from WHYY: James Bamford (April 24, 2001)

James Bamford has investigated the inner-workings of the National Security Agency for his new book, Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency: From the Cold War Through the Dawn of a New Century (Doubleday). The book examines the Agency's past and its present activities including the ongoing hunt for the terrorist Osama bin Laden.

Talk of the Nation: Is the U.S. Suffering From a New Energy Crisis? (March 21, 2001)

The United States is the world's biggest energy consumer. Now, President Bush says the nation is facing the worst energy crisis since the 1970's. Is the U.S. energy supply really in trouble? Join Juan Williams and guests for a look at U.S. energy policy.

Morning Edition: Bush on Oil (March 14, 2001)

NPR's Peter Overby reports on President Bush's ties to the oil industry, and considers what that may mean for oil interests in the next four years.

Talk of the Nation: Review of U.S. Defense Policy (February 13, 2001)

President Bush says the U.S. military is suffering from morale problems and has vowed to improve the quality of life for those in the military. He's devoting this week to issues of national security and has promised a thorough review of the armed services. Join guest host Neal Conan for a look at the Bush Administrations efforts to reform U.S. defense policy.

Morning Edition: The Defense Budget (February 8, 2001)

NPR's Tom Gjelten reports on President Bush's decision to stick with last year's defense budget, offered by President Clinton. Mr. Bush says his administration needs time for a thorough review of defense needs, but critics maintain that the president is breaking his campaign pledge to rebuild the U.S. military.

Talk of the Nation: Bush Defense Priorities (January 11, 2001)

President-elect Bush has named Donald Rumsfeld as his Defense secretary and Rumsfeld is in the Senate this week for confirmation hearings. Rumsfeld favors a missile defense system, one of many high-priced and high-tech weapons systems being considered for the U.S. military in the 21st century. Join Juan Williams and guests for a discussion of George W. Bush's defense priorities.

All Things Considered: Bush - Defense (January 8, 2001)

President-elect George W. Bush met today in Austin with top leaders from both parties on the House and Senate Armed Services Committees. The group talked about the Bush administration's plans for re-energizing the nation's military. As a candidate for president, Bush said military morale could be improved with higher pay and a redefined mission.

Talk of the Nation: Bush's Foreign Policy (December 18, 2000)

Over the weekend, president-elect George W. Bush officially named Colin Powell as his Secretary of State and picked Condoleeza Rice for National Security Advisor. Join Juan Williams and guests for a discussion about Bush's appointments and their role in shaping the new administration's foreign policy.
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