Religion ?

[Janama]

Yeah - I had the JW visit when I lived at the end of a long driveway at the bottom of a steep hill. they had walked all the way down so I offered them a cool drink for their efforts.

We sat around discussing religion as they offered me their views and I offered mine in return - they came back another three times but eventually gave up on me

[Dale]

Does anybody have an explanation as to why the Jehovah's Witnesses adopt this door-to-door style in such a BIG way when most other religious groups don't?

Oz and Janama, I have done a little bit of converting JW's myself but in the end I still think this door-knocking is a futile experience for all concerned. People learn and take on board new info in their own way and in their own time. Not when it is thrust upon them. I'm sure you would totally agree with that Oz.

[Ozregeneration]

[Dale]

I had two more JWs here today. Did you send them Oz????? As I didn't engage in my usual 'Beware the Bitch' behaviour (as Oz's voice was in my ear beseeching me to speak to them ), I am now in possession of a little leaflet entitled "All Suffering SOON TO END!"

I could quote from it if you want, but I'd rather go walk my dog. Now what advice do you have for me for when they come back??!?! And they have PROMISED that they will. And you know what? I somehow think they'll keep that promise

[Nat]

it's simple Dale

i tell them that i respect their beliefs, but i am one of the unrepresented people in the world who have moral beliefs, but who feels able to have them without religion, i tell them that politely and clearly...when they continue to push i tell them that for me the only way to affect change is by action, that promises of 'miracles soon' are the oldest and least effective means of control known to man, in short i politely imply that they should reconsider their outlook

they never ever return

tricky balance, but by turning the sales pitch on its head they know they have a live one on their hands and off they shuffle

[Dale]

Very demure matt... now what do you say to female Jehovah's Witnesses? :roll:

[truthseeker]

I don't mean to answer for matt, Dale, but male or female I'd make the observation that humans lean toward 'religion' because they have identified themselves as the egoic creation of their mind, and lost sight of themselves as the conscious Being they are in truth. Once that vital consciousness is forgotten, or rather covered up, the self-created imposter seeks 'authority' outside of itself.

I'm fairly sure a cogent explanation of the unity of all being, and your identification of that as Yourself will have them running for the exit...

[Nat]

what Truthseeker said

but mainly, i am not caught up on issues of gender and things that are not needing to be said - we only overcome the issue of gender once we begin to ignore it as a form of differentiation

it's all about divisive memes, and i reject it, when a jehovah's witness knocks at my door i see the person not the gender

also, man or woman, i say come one come all, worship on the altar of my...

[Dale]

matt:

[truthseeker]

[Dale]

truthseeker:

[DrewTerry]

[Ozregeneration]

[FaxMam]

[Dale]

Drew: