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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeroen wrote:
As for pretexts, it looks like just about anything will do (btw the message in the fact that wmd were never found seems to be that the us does whatever it wants; some wmd could have been arranged for after all).

Now that's a refreshing take on Saddam's mushroom cloud. Far more filling than the usual meal.

Another theory, what if the US was waiting for, and expecting WMD to be found in Iraq, real good stuff like some messy biologicals -- or in the very least, some rusty contaminated drums. Even had their day planners all marked and ready. But then the ones who were supposed to (and had promised to) plant them there, had betrayed US?

And when 'we' discovered the betrayal it was a bit 'too late', in the game sense for plausible happenstance? A slight variation that makes more sense than some confidence artist of the Iraqui Congress being given chance after chance to spot Saddam-era WMDs on a map. ("Oops. My finger slipped when I was pointing last week. Try over there.")

That would make an excellent lead in to turn the tide on neocoons.

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Hmm, makes me curious about your sources

As for myself, nothing fancy, I just guess a lot.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichaelC wrote:
he's posing with some red gooky stuff on his neck?


can you get your neck alignment and you head alignment in that position?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unsure of the legitimacy of this, but, for the record, here it is:

http://www.joevialls.co.uk/

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Mrs Saddam says Saddam is not Saddam

Confused? Now ask yourself why George Dubya Bush suddenly blurted out, "I want to make sure when sovereignty is transferred, Saddam Hussein stays in jail."

Copyright Joe Vialls, 18 June 2004

There is little doubt that the International Red Cross really screwed the White House last week, when demanding that America release "prisoner-of-war Saddam" when "sovereignty is returned to Iraq at the end of June". The possibly catastrophic results of handing an imposer back to the Iraqi people, all of whom can tell the difference between President Saddam Hussein and one of his body doubles at close range, had American Administration officials wringing their hands in panic, while seeking a less-than-lethal compromise.

Leading the charge was American-appointed Iraqi Dictator Paul Bremer, due to be replaced on 1 July by American-appointed Iraqi Dictator Iyad Allawi. Bremer has a very personal interest in the proceedings, because if all of Baghdad's residents should uncover the deception, and rise up in rage to attack his splendid dictatorial residence in the Green Zone, Paul will unquestionably be castrated while still alive, shortly before being returned to New York with his privates sewn neatly inside his mouth.

Dictator Bremer announced America's intent to keep the imposter away from public view by referring obliquely to the incoming pupper government: "If they ask for him, which I have every reason to believe they will ... we'll turn him over," Bremer told the Washington Post, adding that "legal custody and physical custody can be two separate things".

Instantly proving that the pliable puppets have no intention of asking for 'Saddam' to be released at any time in the future, American-appointed Justice Minister Malek Duhan al-Hassan stepped in, insisting that American assistance was necessary. "Saddam Hussein will be under our responsibility after June 30 but we can ask the coalition to provide additional support to guard him for an undetermined period of time."

Liberally oozing obsequiousness from every sweat gland in his corrupt body, al-Hassan continued, "We are ready to guarantee the protection of Saddam Hussein, but given the difficult security situation and if we feel we have the need, we can cooperate on this question with the coalition." Presumably then, we can take all this as meaning that the imposter will remain down in Qatar, playing poker with his attentive CIA minders. Mrs Saddam with her family in happier times, but Sajina can still tell the
difference between her real husband and a synthetic American imposter

They see him here, they see him there, the White House sees him everywhere.

Although just about anyone with eyes could tell that the knock-kneed man hiding in his custom-designed funk hole was not the real Sadda Hussein [full report linked at the bottom of this page], the Americans got away with the false-flag public relations stunt until April of this year, when disaster approached in the formidable person of Sajida Heiralla Tuffah, Saddam's wife and the mother of his children.

After the Russians applied enormous diplomatic pressure, America was finally obliged to allow Sajida Heiralla Tuffah access to her husband in Qatar, where he had been flown in some luxury aboard a United States Air Force VIP jet. The facilities at Baghdad Airport were considered to be sub-standard, besides which, people were beginning to talk about the laughing and bourbon-swilling Muslim prisoner, who was the only one in sight not wearing a hood and sensory deprivation earphones, and not being sexually abused by Ricardo Sanchez.

Well, you could have heard a pin drop all the way across Qatar. Sajida arrived from Syria with her official escort Sheikh Hamad Al-Tani, and then entered the prison, emerging only moments later pink with rage and shouting, "This is not my husband but his double. Where is my husband? Take me to my husband".

American officials rushed forward to shield Mrs Saddam from perplexed Russian observers, trying to insist that Saddam had changed a lot while in custody and she probably didn't recognise him. This was certainly not the best way to handle the Iraqi President's wife. "You think I do not know my husband?" Sajida shouted furiously, "I was married to the man for more than twenty-five years!" Then she stormed off, never to return.

This remarkable confrontation was reported by Pravda and four other newspapers in the east between 13 and 17 April, but the New York Times and others made damn sure you didn't read or hear about it in the west. After all, this was an integral part of Wall Street's psychological campaign to convince the public that America was "Winning the War", so please to send more sons and body bags to Iraq.

Sometimes it is difficult to remember how thin the ice really is in Iraq, because Wall Street relies heavily on the limited memory-span of most readers and viewers, successfully thinking that each new exciting and thus distracting Orwellian lie it presents to the public, obverwhelms the one before it, and so on.

The entire "war" and its lack of progress is simply a giant public relations exercise, artfully managed by some of the best spin-doctors and media forgers in New York. So every now and again it pays to go back to the roots of the deception, if only to remind ourselves how badly we have been fooled.

The photo analysis shown below of Saddam's staue being dragged down in Baghdad is a prime example of how the spin-doctors manufacture a "triumphal event" out of thin air, when all of the actors are controlled directly by New York. I cannot remember who sent me this analysis, but if you email me, I will properly credit the photograph.

[Vialls is RIP. Too bad.]

The trouble is that New York's spin is nowadays falling way behind the increasing body bag count, and the grim reality that Americans in general are going broke because of the insane aspirations of the New York power brokers. Did anyone ever really believe that 27 million armed Iraqis would roll over and play dead for 100,000 armed American soldiers? No, of course not, because such a thought is unthinkable for any sane person. It seems likely that New York is now having recurring nightmares about the distinct possibility of the real Saddam Hussein rising from the ashes of the shattered American invasion, and with him perhaps, his two sons Uday and Qusay.



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Shaddam Shaddam's New Vaudeville Scam!

As Iraq rapidly descends into total anarchy, a new Broadway comedy opens in Baghdad

Copyright Joe Vialls, 3 July 2004

Psychological flooding: "Try to arouse the fear to its full fury, study it (telling yourself you can stand more), and challenge it to become even more intense. Welcome it. Be determined to stay right there as long as it takes to overpower and shrink the fear response. The fear will decline after some time, maybe after a couple hours or maybe after 6 or 8 hours (probably not that long)".

Jeffers 1987

The first psychological flooding trick used on you was America's symbolic "triumph" over President Hussein, generated by Mossad shrinks who ordered that his bronze statue in central Baghdad be defaced and then torn down. Theoretically, this should have made the Iraqi people hate Saddam for letting them down, thereby allowing the resulting power vacuum to be filled seamlessly by lovable Zionist butchers. As multiple lethal events in Iraq have shown ever since, the Iraqi people were not fooled by this pathetic Mossad psycho-babble.

To say that New York's latest propaganda initiative got off to a bad start would be the understatement of the year. Initially, journalists who had personally viewed the prisoner stated that when an Iraqi judge asked whether or not he was Saddam Hussein, the response was affirmative. The journalists further described the prisoner as, "in good health and shorn of the long hair and gray beard he had when he was arrested in December in a bunker near his hometown in Tikrit," who afterwards "acknowledged that he was Saddam Hussein." We were then shown fanciful artistic sketches of the alleged clean-shaven tyrant and other members of his co-accused legitimate government ministers because, "no photographs of Saddam Hussein are allowed due to high security."

Clearly these accredited journalists from San Francisco and Sydney must have been hallucinating badly, or simply mistook a clean-shaven court janitor for the alleged President of Iraq, because less than two hours later they were swiftly cast aside in favor of the "A" team from New York, headed by Mossad favorite Christiane Amanpour of CNN, a hard-nosed chief correspondent who never let truth get in her way during Gulf War One.

Christiane had photographs all right, in fact she had several hundred feet of edited video footage direct from the 'courtroom', though we have no proof of where the mock courtroom actually is, or where the video footage was shot. But as we will see quite clearly in a moment, Amanpour's damning footage actually proves that the prisoner cannot be President Saddam Hussein, leaving us with the problem of how to label the different players in this bizarre Orwellian tableaux. So let us shorten the name of the Mossad imposter from "Sham Saddam" to simple "Shaddam", and refer to the absent Saddam Hussein as "President Hussein", which was and still is his correct title in international law.

Before getting technical about the problems with Shaddam, it is probably wise to understand why the Zionists took this massive chance in exposing an obvious fake, best summed up by the sheer desperation of American-appointed & controlled Deputy Foreign Minister Hamid al-Bayati, a loose-tongued Iraqi traitor who was stupid enough to admit yesterday, ""I think the trial will slow down the attacks and the insurgency because Saddam Hussein loyalists will lose hope."

No chance of that happening at all. At exactly the same time that Amanpour started to spew her pathetic propaganda world-wide about Shaddam, a member of the Republican Guard triggered a culvert bomb in the northern city of Mosul, which destroyed a convoy taking fuel and food supplies to soldiers currently on only one hot meal a day. The massive blast tore the right arm off a member of the American Stryker Force, who died before he could be evacuated to field hospital. Christiane Amanpour did not bother to mention this, because her whole world that day revolved solely around psychologically flooding you into believing that Shaddam was President Hussein.

Psychological flooding of this sort is not new, and has been around almost as long as Sigmund Freud. In this particularly crude example, you were flashed more frames per second of Shaddam than you had been flashed frames per month of President Hussein when he was still visibly present in Iraq. This sheer weight of numbers then forces your brain to accept Shaddam as President Hussein, even though you may be deeply skeptical. Once you realize what has been done to you, unraveling the illusion becomes easier, because behavioral psychology in itself is merely a series of manufactured stage tricks.

At this stage there is little point in relying on general indicators such as the "bearing" or "hand movements" of the prisoner to disprove the media, because it is simply not enough. In order to reverse this modern media mind control, it is essential to home in on hard physical irregularities, and then hang onto them grimly. Remember that your personal recall and testimony might well be needed later, when trying and sentencing journalists at the forthcoming western war crimes tribunals, to be held in New York or Guantanamo Bay.

Allowing Shaddam to open his mouth at all in court was a serious error of judgement, because like fingerprints used by law enforcement agencies, teeth and dental work are absolutely unique, in this case proving one-hundred-percent that Shaddam never was and never could be President Hussein. If you look closely at the photo-composite at the top of this page, you will see four small inset photographs of President Hussein. In all of them you can clearly see his neat white even teeth, made possible in part by the fact that Iraq has [or had] more dental surgeons per head of population than any country in the world apart from Libya. This expert dental service was free to all Iraqis, and President Hussein's teeth were and are in pristine condition.

Now look again closely, and you will see that President Hussein's upper teeth naturally close in front of his lower teeth, known in professional dental circles as 'overbite'. This condition is normal for nearly all of us, but sadly not for Shaddam, who in at least fifty of Christiane Amanpour's separate video frames proves he suffers from a rare condition known as 'underbite', where a defective or misshapen jaw bone causes the lower teeth to close in front of the upper teeth. This single forensic fact is absolute proof that Shaddam is not President Hussein. The additional fact that Shaddam has ragged uneven teeth when compared to the even teeth of President Hussein is interesting of course, but unnecessary because we already have absolute dental proof that Shaddam is an imposter.

Two hours later while Christiane Amanpour was still furiously flooding your startled and thus receptive senses with hundreds of flashing quasi-hypnotic video frames of Shaddam via CNN, an American Marine corporal on a road west of Ramadi suddenly exploded in front of his terrified platoon. One second the corporal was standing there quite cheerfully, and the next he suddenly and without warning transformed into more than a thousand bloodied fragments of body armor, tissue and bone.

Lying motionless more than 1,000 yards away, the Republican Guard counter-insurgency sniper responsible for this execution continued to peer through the telescopic site of his South African Truvelo .50 caliber rifle. The Guardsman had fired a single devastating Norwegian Raufoss round which hit the corporal in his chest body armor, instantly compressing and heating the bullet's internal incendiary tip, which then ignited the high explosive charge, in turn fragmenting the bullet's outer casing, the corporal's body armor, and the corporal himself in less than 10 milliseconds.

Please note that this highly demoralizing trauma in the American Marine platoon was caused by a single .50 Cal armor-piercing explosive Raufoss rifle round, and the Republican Guard still has a minimum inventory of 2.2 million Raufoss rounds secreted across Iraq. No doubt these highly-trained snipers will use these awesone Raufoss rounds sparingly, and with the same deadly accuracy every time.

Back in the mock courtroom, more than a few people were wondering why Saddam Hussein, a real stickler for being clean shaven and having short hair since he was a teenager, should suddenly choose to change the habits of a lifetime and appear like a tramp with long matted hair and a bushy unkempt beard. Though we no longer need the extra details because we already have 100% dental proof that Shaddam is an imposter, here are those details for readers who still want to know the answers.

Rather like fingerprints and teeth, every human on earth has a uniquely shaped skull. The shorter the hair the more obvious the shape of the individual skull becomes, and because we have already proved that Shaddam is an imposter, mismatched cranial comparison as well would have made the Zionists a complete laughing stock. That takes care of the inexplicable long hair, essential to conceal this particularly revealing element of the deception.

In the case of Shaddam, the need for a thick bushy beard was and still is absolutely essential, because there is no such thing as a 'mild' form of dental underbite. Though his sponsors certainly gave Shaddam quite a lot of expensive plastic surgery around his eyes, forehead, ear lobes and so on, there is absolutely no way that soft-tissue plastic surgery can correct a badly misshapen jaw bone.

To quote from a dental textbook, "In this case, the lower jaw and teeth are pushed out in front of the upper jaw. The lower jaw appears to be excessively large, but often the upper jaw is underdeveloped. If left untreated, the problem will worsen and require orthognathic (jaw) surgery." Any orthognathic surgery would have left Shaddam incapable of speech for months on end: entirely critical months during which he had to learn to speak approximately like President Hussein in front of the mock court, in front of Christiane Amanpour, and in front of the entire world.

Whilst it would be nice to speculate that the Iraqi people will one day be able to uncover this gross deception for themselves, I can assure you this will not happen, if only because Zionists [and in particular the Mossad] never leave any loose ends lying around. On the same day that the mock trial was announced, American Dictator Iyad Allawi [a former Mossad operative himself], declared that the death penalty had just been placed back on the Iraqi statutes. So we can take it as read that President Hussein, who was never captured by the Americans at all, will be 'executed' at a classified location for security reasons, then buried in quicklime at an equally classified location to prevent pilgrimages to the grave of a 'martyr'.

Of course, Shaddam is hoping that it will only be a mock execution and a mock burial, because he has been promised the usual Mossad perks of a new identity, two million bucks, a fast car, and free airline tickets to Monte Carlo. This would normally be honored if Shaddam had further vital work to do afterwards [like James Bond], but sadly this is not the case. When the "Tyrant Saddam" has been officially executed by the victorious Zionists, poor old Shaddam will fall into the category of someone who knows far too much for his own good, and in particular far too much for the greater good of the Jewish State. So, one dark night, a Mossad assassin will pump a couple of bullets into the back of his head, and Shaddam's lights will go out forever.

Though this and earlier reports have proved and still prove that President Hussein was never captured by the Americans, nor his sons killed by them in the manner claimed, readers should be very circumspect in assuming that all three are necessarily alive and well today. Since America first illegally invaded sovereign Iraq, it has killed an absolute minimum of 5,500 civilians with random fragmentation weapons, and targeted various areas with deep penetration bunker-busting bombs.

Thus the total number of Iraqis murdered by the Zionists is currently unknown, as are their individual identities. Under such circumstances, no serious analyst would stick his neck out and claim that Saddam, Uday and Qusay are still alive out there, because it is impossible to tell for sure. The only people likely to know the truth of the matter are very senior members of the Republican Guard, and possibly the Kremlin.

In terms of determining exactly who is ultimately responsible for killing your sons and daughters in a foreign land, and why, we are drawn inexorably towards the words of ultra-Zionist Benjamin Netanyahu, currently the Israeli Finance Minister, who spoke in London on 21 June 2003, when things were going more or less to plan.

According to Reuters, Netanyahu said he expected an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel to be reopened in the near future after being closed when Israel became a state in 1948. "It won't be long when you will see Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa," the port city in northern Israel, Netanyahu told a group of British investors, declining to give a timetable. "It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is reconstituted and Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean."

Netanyahu later told Reuters the government was in the early stages of looking into the possibility of reopening the pipeline, which during the British Mandate sent oil from Mosul to Haifa via Jordan. "It's not a pipe-dream," Netanyahu said. In April, a source at the National Infrastructure Ministry told Reuters Israel and Jordan would hold talks on reopening the pipeline, which Israel believes would lower fuel costs by 25 per cent.

The source said that the Israeli section of the pipeline was in good condition but did not know about the Jordanian section. Jordanian officials denied they would meet Israeli officials, citing cold relations with the Jewish State since the outbreak of a Palestinian uprising in late 2000.

Netanyahu was of course referring to the now failed Operation Shekhinah, the invasion of Iraq planned by Zionists for the exclusive benefit of Zionists and nobody else. But in a way you have to feel sorry for these sick creatures who barely rate the title of 'human beings' nowadays. Eighty years ago, these Zionists were the ultimate financial power brokers who planned to enslave us all for at least a thousand years, but now their world is collapsing around their ears in a way they could never have imagined.

Even now, the arrogant Zionists remain terminally deluded, because the only way that Iraqi oil will ever be delivered to Tel Aviv, Benjamin, will be in highly modified jelly form, pre-packaged in 100 gallon pods slung under the wings of Russian ground attack jets. And perhaps in the last split second before each pod explodes inside the Knesset at 3,632F, the deluded perverts within will just have time to repent for the thousands of innocent women and children they have abused, raped, dismembered and eventually murdered since they first invaded sovereign Palestine in 1948.



Make of it what you will. I was in email contact with Joe month's before he died, just after the SE Asian tsunami and I found him most convivial and lucid. Okay, he had a personal axe to grind, but don't we all Question

JV RIP.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello

this is my first post
I am from the arab world ( dont know english well )

but I can post some PICs of real saddam and fake saddam


where is saddam??

is the PICs for the same man??








"we'v got him "
who is " him" ????

if you mean him = saddam so why are you sad?





you can compair by your self






you all know about the tow balk spots near the ear and above the eye of the hanged man

but ... why there is alot of PICs of saddam WITH OUT the tow spots??


see by your self











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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bad hair cut or a try to hide the spot by covering it with hair?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to your iformation

saddam is NOT died

he is some where in iraq faighting with his army against USA



by the way : do any one of you know the REAL number of killed USA solders ???

hint : dont say 3000
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello

where are you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that was a request for locale. I believe he was tapping the microphone in what appears to be an empty auditorium.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

yes the auditorium is empty

and I am near to IRAQ if you care about the location matt

but until now no one of you can answer my question about the number of killed U.S.A solders in IRAQ
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rayeg wrote:
but until now no one of you can answer my question about the number of killed U.S.A solders in IRAQ

I had been hearing for years how the U.S. military had been grossly under-estimating the casualty lists, through clever manipulation of the numbers and redefining what is a "casualty."

Such as - soldiers who died in military hospitals were not counted as "battlefield losses." You had to actually die in battle.

As far back as 2005 I had heard it was around 9,000. What's your number, rayeg?

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