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elbowdeep



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Join Red... Now! (or burn in hell) Reply with quote

Holy Shit...

As of this moment, this is on the front page of youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QShD1BsscY

What a wicked piece of propaganda, absolutely stunning.

I can see the teenie-boppers lapping this up like well trained sheep, no sheep-dog necessary, they will be following each other to the department stores with a glazed look in their eyes, multiple freshly provided credit cards in hand, ready to be maxed out to "purchase" the latest piece of shit, worthless fashion accessory to help "save the world".

It's pretty clear that Red=Blood, and it's splashing all over the place.

It's a 1.5 minute guilt-trip.

(I've tried to transcribe the dialog here, as I think the wording used is VERY important... (There is some overlapping dialog, I've attempted to grab it as best I can, sorry if I missed/messed up anything)
I have a feeling some of these "catch phrases" will be popping up in the most unlikely places, so keep your eyes/ears peeled)

(Cue the U2esque music...)
All things being equal, they are not.
As first world consumers we have tremendous power
What we collectively choose to by, or not to by can
change the course of life and history on this planet...
Red is that simple an idea, and that powerful
now you have a choice
there will be Red credit cards, Red phones,
Red shoes, Red fashion bands,
and
No, this does not mean they will all be the color Red,
although some might be.
If you buy a Red product, or sign-up for a Red service
A percent, at no cost to you, a company..... anti-viral medication,
...brothers and sisters dying of aids in Africa...
We believe that when consumers are offered this choice
and the products meet their needs, they will choose Red...
...We don't want them to die... and more lives will be saved...
... more brands will become Red, because if it makes good business sense ... and more lives will be saved...
Red is not a charity... it is simply a business model...
If you buy Red stuff, we get the money...
buy pills, and distribute them...
take the pills, and stay alive, and continue to take care of their families...
If they don't get the pills... they die...
We don't want them to die...
We want to give them the pills... and You can... and you can..
It's easy... all you have to do is upgrade your choice...
Buy Red

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cliff



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy or die, red or dead . . . . I don't know how people can't see through this stuff . . . it's like some celebrity who puts their name to charity x, not because of any heart-felt conscience, but to get publicity.
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atm



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And look who's behind this:

Motorola

American Express

Gap

Emporio Armani

Converse

Apple (iPOD)


http://www.joinred.com/you.asp

What, no Coca Cola (it's the Real Thing, allegedly)? No Pepsi? No Johnny Walker Red Label? No red sky at night? No red paint? No Red Bull? No red eye? No Red Cross? No Red Crescent? No red herring? No Boston Red Sox? No Cinncinati Reds? No red meat? No Red perfume by Giorgio of Beverley Hills? No red yeast rice? No red roses? No reds under the bed? No 'Under a Blood Red Sky'?

Well, maybe, because, you see, guess who's buddy buddy with Red CEO Bobby Shriver? Yep, you guessed it:


Quote:


Bono, Bobby Shriver hope Americans see red

Bono and Bobby Shriver are Making a Difference

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15253887/

NEW YORK - On the left at Friday's kickoff event in New York: An Irish singer and songwriter who just might be the biggest rock star in the world today. On the right: Bobby Shriver, nephew of a President of the United States, brother of the first lady of California, son of the founder of the Peace Corps who ran for vice president, and son of the founder of the Special Olympics.

They have combined to try to make red the new hot color, launching a huge marketing campaign across the country.

"Red is the color of emergency," says Bono. "I suppose that's why we chose it. But, Red — Product Red — is a way of making it easy for people in the shopping malls and main streets all over this great country to get AIDS drugs to Africans who can't afford them, you see?"

Why isn't this charity?

"Sustainability is the key word here," says Bono. "The reason why we're not calling it charity and we're describing it as a new business model is that Red companies will make some profit. Not as much as they would usually. But, we want them to prosper because it's a long term fight with this illness. We don't want to just put out some T-shirts and jeans and Motorola phones and Apple iPods for a year, get people on the drugs and then not continue with their treatment. Great brands always have an emotional component. We think we bring that with our brand to theirs."


"This is in the newspapers all over the country today," says Bobby Shriver. "So these people are courageous to have done this because it's their main-line brand. People don't mess with, as we all know, their main-line brand. But they're messing with their brands here because they believe that their customers will see the consciousness of that and respond to it."

"This is using the force of consumerism," says Bono, "this tidal wave that's pouring on over our head, and it's just using it to defend the world's most vulnerable. That's it. That simple."

Bono has helped to change the business of giving.


He'll go back to U2 and record new music shortly, but for now it's one memory from his first trip to Africa that keeps him going.

"It's a man, [who] offers me his young son and he says, 'Please, you must take this boy and you must take him with you to wherever you live. Because if he stays here, he will surely die. But, if he goes with you, he will live.'"

"And you have to walk away from that moment," Bono continues, "and know he's probably right. But you know even at a deeper level that he shouldn't be right."

By the way, we all learned a lesson today, when Bono came to the newsroom to greet the Nightly News staff. Never let him borrow your camera.

"Even better than the real thing," said Bono as he spun around the room, shooting video of us all.

© 2006 MSNBC Interactive



Oh, we see Bono, we see. We're seeing red.

atm Neutral


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't forget Oprah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu-Uwj7U7W4
Gotta get all the screamin housewives on board!

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atm



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm lost for words.

I love those red Porsche Boxters? Do they drive Porsches in Somalia?

"I'm going shopping to help save the World".

Oprah Winfrey

"These red phones are be-U2-aful".

Bonio

"The red iPOD is amazing".

Oprah Winfrey

"bono suckin up to the man again. selling ipods manufactured by starving wage-slaves in CHINA to get a FRACTION of the profits to africa, still increasing stock-holder value... it's ridiculous."

lodp (TheirTube)


Pass me the sick bucket (the blue one, please, Bonio).

atm :roll:
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odd they would choose Red, isn't it? I mean, isn't the 'designated' color for the Democrats/Liberals now BLUE? (Oops... I certainly didn't mean to insinuate Bono wasn't a Republican. My bad....) Laughing

And speaking of that - not to change the subject here, but - I'd often wondered: who decided that the GOP was red and the Dems were blue? When did that color denotation come into being. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the more 'Liberal' party denoted as Red, since they are, in reality, closer to Communist?

Or was that the problem? That the GOP would have a never-ending field day with the color comparison, and the back and forth theater boys would have to go into hyper-drive to counter it. Confused

Perhaps this is picayune matter, but it always bothered me who came up with this 'accepted' color code. And since we have 5 different colors for our "terror alerts", why not 5 or 6 (or more) colors for political parties?

Yeah... 5 or 6 designated, viable, organized U.S. political parties.... I can see it now, man.....


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cliff



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpl4skn wrote:
And speaking of that - not to change the subject here, but - I'd often wondered: who decided that the GOP was red and the Dems were blue? When did that color denotation come into being. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the more 'Liberal' party denoted as Red, since they are, in reality, closer to Communist?



I suspect the colours are unimportant, for instance, here in Australia, the republicans (liberals) are blue and the labour party is red. The green party is . . . green! However, assigning a colour is in effect like assigning a logo. If you advertise the logo around enough and associate it with the "proper" images, then brand "x" is the one you instantly reach for in the supermarket or the polling both. When I'm walking down the street and I see red, a trigger goes off in my head and the jingle plays and I must buy. It becomes a conditional reflex (pavlovian response) that requires no thought. And that's what the advertisers want. No thought, just mindless consumerism. Political parties are the same. You could argue the case for religion too. It surprised me that advertisers actually build in a nag factor these days. but then again, why wouldn't they? Once you have conditioned children, they remain hooked for the rest of their lives.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Youtube Comment Reply with quote

My comments on the video at YouTube was not approved, Hmmmm. Seems only "positive" comments are approved by moderators.

Reading Youtube's policies at http://youtube.com/t/help_cat08, it seems that the poster of the video moderates the comments. So, unfortunately, it appears that the user "joinred" is not going to allow the publishing of posts that do not support their agenda.

This blatent commerical use of YouTube is quite interesting in and of itself.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuck bono Evil or Very Mad Mad

How would he like this kind of RED?

Quote:
31st October 2000
Tragic underestimation of flesh-sloughing side-effects and failures in patient monitoring -led to the deaths which forced halting of South African Nevirapine trials.

"JULIE was 10 months old. Her mouth was filled with blisters... Her face was unrecognizable. She looked like she had been deep fried. Her lungs collapsed... [She] lost all sight in her right eye"-
http://aidsmyth.addr.com/viramune.htm


Maybe he needs his house painted red? Very Happy See how committed he is to the cause Cool little shit
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calling all posters buywhite, buygreen, buyyellow, buyorange join buyblue on http://www.u2.com/ forum Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rumpl4skn wrote:
And speaking of that - not to change the subject here, but - I'd often wondered: who decided that the GOP was red and the Dems were blue? When did that color denotation come into being. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the more 'Liberal' party denoted as Red, since they are, in reality, closer to Communist?

I suspect the colours are unimportant, for instance, here in Australia, the republicans (liberals) are blue and the labour party is red. The green party is . . . green! ~ Cliff

Calling all posters buywhite, buygreen, buyyellow, buyorange join buyblue on http://www.u2.com/ forum ~ Kathy


The first I heard of the 'red and blue state' crap in the US was out of the 2004 Kerry episode. er, 'election'.

Yes, once in the US the hype was 'better dead than red', now that's down the memory hole and it's 'red is dead'.

Who suddenly picked red for US 'Republican'? The right-wing -- which in the States represents 'convervative', greed, and just plain 'ass holiness'?

Color coding is military...and ultimately Masonic or religious anyway.

It does seem interesting they mix up terms and color coding depending on what G-8 'zone' you're in.


Republicans being called the 'liberals' in one place, here they are called the 'conservatives'. Either place, the meaning of both these terms does a one hundred eighty degree flip every fifty years or so anyway.

Orange revolution. I can understand the red since I have a Ukranian friend over there who's nostolgic for the Soviet days...but what's the yellow mean. (yellow and red makes orange.)

What's really going on in Ukraine is the Carnegie funded merger of Soviet System with Western credit work till you die --and, loving it! -- system.

Seems the 'purple revolution' should have been right (merger red--communism blue--'democracy'.

But seriously...'democracy' is the code word (if spoken by American Administrations) for the credit/comsumer/producer system, isnt' it?

So shouldn't then American democracy be GREEN? (for dollars?)

And let the Greens be brown like tree bark, and manure fertilizer, I would think.

uggghhhhh..........I'm spent!

*fade to black....*

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DK

went onto the http://www.u2.com webshite, signed up as 'buyblack' ('buyblue' had already been taken).

Try as I might I can't find a forum on the U2 shite.

Wrote some nasty words in the signature box.

Cannot wait for the response (I've got better things to do).

BTW, posted the following comment on TheirTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QShD1BsscY

Can you not see the corporate psyop that this is? Buy an Armani, an iPOD and save the World cos Bono says so (and his pals, Bush, and Oprah). Don't fall for this: This is sick.

It's awaiting (dis)approval...

...meanwhile...

Quote:

Bono gets too close to the edge

Fallen idol? philip delves broughton on the U2 singer’s un-PC new investments

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=809

November 25, 2006

Bono's reputation as the Mother Teresa of rock is in jeopardy following a pair of business deals tying him to one of the most conservative businessmen in America and the creators of violent video-games with an anti-socialist bent. He's also been criticised for a plan to avoid U2 paying tax in Ireland.

The deals were struck by Elevation Partners, a $1.9bn (£1bn) Silicon Valley-based investment firm, of which Bono is a founding partner.

On Monday, Elevation announced an investment of $250m (£130m) in Forbes Media, a publishing company managed by Steve Forbes. Forbes ran twice for the US presidency - in 1996 and 2000 - arguing for a flat income tax, prayer in schools and a ban on abortion.

Bono, a champion of Third World debt relief and AIDS treatment, thus becomes part-owner of Forbes magazine and a number of other business titles serving America's financial elite. U2 has also joined many business high-fliers in moving part of its multi-million-dollar operation from Ireland to Amsterdam, to take advantage of a lighter tax regime.

Meanwhile, another of Elevation's portfolio companies, Pandemic Studios, a video-game developer, has incurred the wrath of American liberals for creating a game in which players take the role of mercenaries sent to Venezuela to depose a Hugo Chavez-like figure. Players of Mercenary 2: World in Flames are told "if you can see it, you can buy it, steal it or blow the living crap out of it". Pandemic has also done work creating computerized war simulations with the Institute for Creative Technologies, a southern Californian research centre funded by the US Army.

Lisa Featherstone, a columnist for The Nation, a liberal magazine based in New York, yesterday challenged Bono to choose between his investments and his declared commitment to improving the lot of the world's poor:

"If Bono is serious in his commitment, and not, as one frequently suspects, a vapid celebrity poser, he should immediately use his financial muscle to deep-six this horrible video game (right)."

Elevation was founded in 2004 by Bono and five prominent Silicon Valley investors and executives, led by Roger McNamee, a venture capitalist and former business adviser to the Grateful Dead.

Their goal is to invest in media and entertainment businesses. U2 is known as one of the most financially astute bands in the world, having retained all rights to their music. Bono's name helped Elevation raise its first fund, but he rarely attends the firm's meetings in California. He may care to drop by before Pandemic's next major release, Destroy All Humans 2, in which players "have total freedom to destroy anything and manipulate everything in the world".

FIRST POSTED AUGUST 10, 2006



Funny how this is getting re-posted NOW.

Bono, you are a duplicitous, two-faced, money-worshipping, power-hungry sick, infected, wart-ridden C**T.

You are a disgrace to the Irish.

I hope you are reading this.

I hope YOU die of AIDS you motherfucker!

And now, some REAL rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRNrFCXHD0k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgeBjx1Pc5A&mode=related&search=

atm Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


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