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stallion4
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| atm wrote: | No, I do not think that Isreal was involved in the 9/11 attacks.
Let's see how Haas's FOIA request gets on and whether his source will go public with his information.
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Israel's "Clean Break" + PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" = 9/11
http://911blogger.com/node/2617
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Hocus Locus
Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Location: Lost in anamnesis, cannot forget my way out
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| Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| On the verge of losin' it, atm wrote: | | Yah, da Joo's diddit! Da JOOS'S! FFS! atm :!: |
Calm down man, here borrow my towel (no, you'll want to use the other corner). No man's going to be caged with delerium on my watch. Some Visine might help too.
If stallion4 and I have unanswered Questions, so be it. And beware the The Other Half Of All Semites Defamation League, they have no sense of humor and have been known to take down even satirical references as collateral damage.
What about jews? If Israel is a 'Jewish State' with all that Islam lodged in there, well I'm a Christian soldier. And it ain't nobody's business if I am. (God says "You tell 'im, boy!") "Yes'm"
If Mossad didn't fit the total profile for a 'spoon fed proxy' on 8-June-1967... perhaps they, or a faction thereof in cahoots with others, did do some moonlighting on 11-Sept-2001. But don't expect me to join complete if matters of the faith are involved; I have always been more interested in murder than organized religion. It's a spiritual thing.
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indigitydogdignation
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| Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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It still amazes me that Mossad-at-it's-worst is so easily equated with anything and all things Jewish. Think of the many degrees of separation between the man in the street vs. the handful of lofty villains who might - or might not - have worked with elements in the U.S. security pool to help engineer the 9-11 attacks....
Thank you, Elfis, for bringing some sanity to the Alex Jones debate. In fairness to ATM and Fintan, I'm noticing a steadily growing anti-Israeli emphasis in Infowars interviews these days, though I'm not sure what it means.
Former CIA agent Steele is another Haas, by a different name. Anti-Mossad sentiment isn't exactly rare in former CIA circles, AIPAC is one of the nastiest lobbies on the Hill and I'm not too surprised to hear some of these things resurfacing from time to time. |
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atm
Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: |
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In a nutshell, my pedigree chums:
not all Jews are Israelis.
not all Israelis are Jews.
not all Jews are Zionists.
not all Zionists are Jews.
not all Zionists are Israelis.
not all Israelis are Zionists.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
The Mossad do not represent Israel or Israelis living and dying in the bastard state of Israel / stolen sovereign state of Palestine.
Sure, The Mossad are a sub-set of the G8 global attack dog network but to baldly assert that 'Israel was involved in 9/11' is far too naïve for my liking.
Now by holding such a view one is in mortal danger of missing the bigger picture and ending up in an intellectual pig farm.
That Alex Jones now pushes the line -- albeit indirectly -- that a bunch of Jewish 'tourists' / a Mossad spy ring were seen jumping up and down on a roof cheering before and after the towers fell just confirms my worst fears about Jones Inc.
The shape charges in the 'troof movemunt' are primed and ready for zio-detonation.
The fuse has been lit: Let's blame da Joos.
Again.
Nah, I don't buy it sweetheart, ain't got the shekels to spare.
Next.
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atm
Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:54 am Post subject: |
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ALEX JONES AND SCIENTOLOGY
I think I finally have the 90%, bone-shattering, mega dirt on Mr Jones & Co:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
The Loyal Officers finally overthrew Xenu and locked him away in a mountain, where he was imprisoned forever by a force field powered by an eternal battery. (Some have suggested that Xenu is imprisoned on Earth in the Pyrenees, but Hubbard merely refers to "one of these planets" [of the Galactic Confederacy]; he does, however, refer to the Pyrenees as being the site of the last operating "Martian report station", which is probably the source of this particular confusion.[3]) Teegeeack/Earth was subsequently abandoned by the Galactic Confederacy and remains a pariah "prison planet" to this day, although it has suffered repeatedly from incursions by alien "Invader Forces" since that time.
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Hmmm. Often wondered why Jones and his sidekicks Paul Joseph and Steve Watson were such avid fans of Darth Vader and all that tripe.
This seals it for me.
But wait! There's more!
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http://www.solitarytrees.net/pickets/erolandb.htm
RON THE HISTORIAN
Combining the gift of "knowing how to know" with knowledge recovered from remembering past lives in Scientology, gives a person a unique view on history. Not just the history of planet Earth, but the history of other planets in our solar system as well. L. Ron Hubbard was able to map the political developments of our closest planets, Mars and Venus. Mars is the domain of the "Fourth Invader Force" that predated the "Fifth Invader Force" who had to contend with stabilizing the government of Venus.
The usefulness of this information is beyond measure to Scientologists who are able to leave their bodies at will (more on this later) since Mars has the ability to trap people who visit it in this way.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Mars.ra
..the Fourth Invader Force was here. The Fifth Invader Force came in to use this area, and the name of this solar system is Space Station 33. They started to use this area without suspecting that the Fourth Invader Force had been there for God knows how many skillion years, had been sitting down, and they have their installations up on Mars, and they have a tremendous, screened operation.
The Martian operation is a fascinating operation, simply because it has gone into 100 percent holding force. And it does everything it does with tremendous coversion. It's sitting behind a defense screen of enormous size, and nobody - it's practically impossible to penetrate that, except as a thetan. And if you penetrate it as a thetan, you go through the Martian screen, and they got you!
--- "Role of Earth", 30 October 1952 (1:04)
The lesser role that the Fifth Invader Force had to accept, in stabilizing the government of Venus is explained, as well as a tip on politeness. Whatever you do, don't call a Fifth Invader a Venusian!
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Venusian.ra
There are saucer crews here; there's all sorts of things on Earth here from the Fifth Invader Force. Very interesting.
This is directly and violently in opposition to the Fourth Invader Force. And the Fifth Invader Force, out of its own protection, took over Venus - oh, relatively in modern times - took over Venus and tried to stabilize the Venusian.
If you called a Fifth Invader, though, a Venusian, he would probably shoot you out of hand, because it would be a horrible insult. They merely monitor the government of Venus, and they leave Mars strictly alone.
Now, this is really, roughly, a rundown of the quote "political" situation in the solar system.
--- "Role of Earth", 30 October 1952 (49 seconds).
With Earth being sandwiched in between Mars and Venus, we might wonder what the Role of Earth is in this political situation of rivalry between the Fourth and Fifth Invader Forces. Ron makes this clear.
Earth is a prison planet.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Prison.ra
..not really interested in Earth at all, as such, because Earth is a heavy gravity planet, and who the hell wants a heavy gravity planet! Earth would be much better off lying in chunks in an orbit around the sun. But naturally, that's a pretty rough assignment, blowing up something this size and putting it around, so nobody would do that.
But completely aside from that fact, Earth has been used consistently as a prison; and it is a prison, and it is heavily screened. There are installations in Mongolia, there are installations in the Pyrenees here on Earth, and there are installations down in the Mountains of the Moon in Africa which pick up, very often, people on death.
--- "Role of Earth", 30 October 1952 (51 seconds)
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Oh deary, deary me, Alex. I think your opsec is well and truly -- I need to calm down -- blown.
Fhoooooh!
And how did I make this bone-shattering discovery? Simply type prisonplanet into www.metacrawler.com -- it's the third one down that caught my, ahem, all seeing eye.
I'm in ecstasy
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indigitydogdignation
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | atm: I'm in ecstasy |
Well, maybe you're on ecstasy. Why don't you tell us the meaning of all this, how it correlates, maybe as a joke of some kind?
Alex Jones is an avid reader, as I'm sure you would know, and "Prison Planet" needn't be an orignial idea. I don't think anyone ever copywrited the phrase.
What's your point? |
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atm
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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It's called a
credibility
gap.
atm :roll: |
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indigitydogdignation
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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credibility gap?
How would you have reacted if Alex Jones had begun his 9-11 'investigation' with a careful analysis of an album cover, such as "The Coup?"
With all due respect to Fintan's fine analytical skills, I have a few worries about how far an album cover can go in convincing large numbers of people of .......of anything?
Don't get me wrong, atm. I'm not necessarily doubting you, just asking for someting a little harder.
Am I being unfair? |
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John Muir
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| This a gross simplification of Fintan's analysis. It makes sense to start with the Coup album cover, if you are loking at it from the PSYOP angle. |
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Bicnarok
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Its amating how many people atack or sidlike AJ, ok he´s a bit load and impulsive, he may have made some mistakes. But he´s fighting for what he believes and he has a lot of good arguments.
Don´t let em divide and conquer those looking for the truth, keep together and victory will come. |
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indigitydogdignation
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| Quote: | | John Muir: This a gross simplification of Fintan's analysis. It makes sense to start with the Coup album cover, if you are loking at it from the PSYOP angle. |
I'm looking at it from the PSYOP angle and don't see too many who are aware of the album cover in the first place, not even in 9-11 truth circles. That being said, my 'gross simplification' might be irrelevant, if nothing else.
| Quote: | Bicnarok: Its amating how many people atack or sidlike AJ, ok he´s a bit load and impulsive, he may have made some mistakes. But he´s fighting for what he believes and he has a lot of good arguments.
Don´t let em divide and conquer those looking for the truth, keep together and victory will come. |
I'd agree were it not for the heaps of bs from the darker side of the 9-11 truth movement. Prof. Jim Fetzer and Morgan Reynolds are the leading perpetrators these days, imo. Their latest bomb? They've theorized that energy beams were used to vaporize the steel at ground zero. (Never mind thermate and explosives, this is how they account for the collapses.) oh, and of course, they've tied wtc7 in by suggesting the building served as headquarters for the 'energy beam' operation.
This kind of crap serves a number of purposes, apart from discouraging and demoralizing those who've invested time, hope and even money in scholarsfor9-11truth. (Not me, thankfully.) They've given the mainstream media more straw-man ammunition, and thanks to Fetzer and Reynolds, (also a no-planer, btw,) the more traditional 9-11 truth explanation for wtc7's collapse will come off as backpeddling, at least to the average yokell. This is huge since wtc7 is one of the major smoking guns, perhaps the easiest to grasp, most communicable - and they're scuttling it.
I don't point fingers until I have good cause, but we DO need to draw our lines somewhere.
Another serious problem is the flagrant misrepresentation of the damage pattern as seen in the pre-collapse photos of the Pentagon attack, especially as depicted in Loose Change 1st and 2nd editions, 911 In Plane Sight, Painful Deceptions, Confronting the Evidence (Jimmy Walters,) and even David Ray Griffin's book, The New Pearl Harbor.
We've been infultrated and totally f#%$!ed with, and the sooner we admit it to ourselves the better off we'll be. If we ever want results, we'll have to confront the disinfo.
Alex Jones has a bad habit of repeating what he hears without always doing the kinds of research he should. I don't begrudge him and his good points far outweigh the bad. His sensationalism invites exaggeration at times though he's not usually wrong in his facts, (but sometimes he's VERY wrong,) and I'm hoping he'll start distancing himself from a few embedded scoundrels sometime soon. |
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