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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To balance the scales, Vox and Milo making some good arguments to
caution against Peterson. We'll have to buy the book to see the full case.
Very interesting intro though.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Vox:
" Jordan Peterson is a line of Cocaine masquerading as a Eucharist...."


Ouch!! Laughing

Not that it's got anything to do with Vox being jealous. Not at all.
Certainly not. Wink

So there is a lot of noise to signal in the book, like way too much digging
around in JBP's personal life and his psychodynamic struggles.

Peterson as feminist nightmare and Peterson as self-help guru is different animals.

The first is a political animal and a precise logician. He's a politician.
It's a smart and informed viewpoint.

The self help stuff grew out of the political in that it intersects with the
basics of assertion and self expression. It's not hugely different or new.

Peterson is showing that you must be an ethical humanist or atheist.
It has to do with necessity of transcending suffering for virtue's sake.
Peterson is the captain of the Titanic. He'll die noble for nobility's sake.

Vox thinks that's painting God out of the picture entirely.
That God is the explanation for suffering and the only exit.

Vox is old Testament.
A Christian who doesn't buy Jesus.

No wonder he hates Peterson Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he's not jealous, he said so in the first chapter and gave many reasons
why he could not be possibly be jealous, the facts are clear, Vox is smarter,
has more published works and has a better looking wife Laughing

I'm not sure how any of these arguments should mean anything, but in all
the evidence to this intro to his book, there is not much but shitting on the
character of the guy. There was a few points about scientific research
being misinterpreted, but so far these are just differences of
opinion/interpretation. Which most research results are rife with anyway.

I'm willing to give Vox the benefit of the doubt, I don't know his full
argument, I will get his book somehow Wink. I guess it's more of the
same critique of details which are essentially subjective.

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Vox is old Testament.
A Christian who doesn't buy Jesus.


I wouldn't have thought about this angle much, but yeah Vox has some
deep issues in his thoughts on religion. Especially in terms of the all
prevailing Christian culture which he feels is clearly morally superior.

Come to think of it, Peterson has a lot of religious interpretations too,
but at least Jungian. Laughing

In most cases, Vox tows the line in academic thoughts, he has an irrational
belief in the legitimacy of the authority of yesterday and today. A real Midwit.

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