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bri



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject: Parvo in Pups Reply with quote

Got a beautiful black German Shepard about a month ago. She's a doll.


Unfortunately the worst case scenario just happened.

Could hear her crying as I left and cried myself. We think we caught it early enough.

Didn't feel comfortable bringing her home, they seemed adamant to leave her there. (yeah I know...$$$ but that shit's serious)


Anyone has any experience with this? They say survival is 80% if caught early.

Maybe advice on what to do once she's (hopefully) home?

We shall see, if all goes well in a couple of days I'll post some pictures.


Please send good vibes for both of us...I'll probably need some money saving and investing tips after this. Laughing Laughing


Had her on that GARD diet for a while, she does even better than me with it, so hopefully that has kept her immune system boosted.


This is of note:

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/05/31/what-your-vet-didnt-tell-you-about-all-those-puppy-and-kitty-vaccines.aspx


So I wonder...did she catch because I gave her a shot a day too late? Or because her immune system was shot itself from following the vets shot order too much...hmmmm


Vibes for my little girl Freyja.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freyja
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short term:
- Lots'a hydration.
- And REAL food.
- Get her out of the vets asap b4 she catches something.

Long term:
- No fukn "vaccines".

Beyond that I've no useful comment - except that just as with
human infants - infant dogs are taken off the bitches milk way
too early and that is a recipe for disaster.

I've had twenty+ pups over multiple bitches and never, ever bring
them anywhere near a vet. Just one dog at the moment and he has
immune issues which have resolved now that he's on RAW minced
meat which I can get from a local butcher. Yeah it's not prime cut,
it's off-cuts minced but his lesion under one eye is now healed.

Even high end canned dog goods are still processed shit I'm afraid.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Fintan, I'm giving my ailing Schnauzer good fresh beef, quick browned but raw inside. Guess I should be giving him all raw.
He has hardly ever been to the vet, throughout his 15 years the vet would from time to time urge a vaccine against some new horror and I would always say no. Just last month she wanted to give him another rabies shot, which I refused.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word. Thanks a bunch for your reply Fintan.

She's doing super great now, they tell me, getting her out of there first thing. usually they keep pups longer and try to bill you into smithereens.

You're right about all that, and she probably caught the fucking shit last time I took her there, for all I know.

I'll keep ya'll posted how this goes.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Bri: She's doing super great now


yahoo Great to hear.

Quote:
MichaelC:
I'm giving my ailing Schnauzer good fresh
beef, quick browned but raw inside.
Guess I should be giving him all raw....


Getting to the For optimum canine diet may take
a bit more research, but here's a start anyway.

The pioneering DogtorJ lays out the basic ideas:

There are no BBQ grills out there in the wild...
http://dogtorj.com/faqs-links/the-raw-diet/
Also
http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id51.html

And here's more:

Quote:
"BARF®", stands for Biologically Appropriate Raw Food or Bones and
Raw Food. This diet is all about feeding dogs properly and returning
them to their evolutionary diet.

A Biologically Appropriate diet for a dog is one consisting of raw whole
foods similar to those eaten by the dogs' wild ancestors. The food must
contain such things as muscle meat, bone, fat, organ meats, vegetable
and fruit materials combined in precisely the correct balance just as
Mother Nature intended.

http://www.barfworld.com/Did_You_Say.php


At this point, my inclination is that a combination of
muscle meat, bone, fat, organ meats is a good start.
I'm unconvinced about veg and fruit for a carnivore.

My "direct to the public" butcher minces up off cuts which will contain
a good combo of muscle meat, and fat. You can supplement that with
small treats of organ meat and marrow-rich bones as well.

Buy bulk for cost and convenience and freeze in packs of a few days worth.

"Local" butchers will be the best go to for all this
I think, but you can formulate / source yourself.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:


yahoo Great to hear.




Yamang, kickin it at home. Cool

She is a little whiney and traumatized from the fucking gulag I put her in for a couple nights, but keeping her in a calm, chill environment.

Not a huge fan of vets after all this but glad I went to the one I did, they were open-minded, realistic, and cheap. They still get hesitant about raw meat...they call it a "fad diet" LMFAO!!! Reminds me of the doctor's office.

Still got her on the ---yes top of the line stuff and grain free but as I understand still processed shit--- dry food little bit of a time, switching to raw diet ASAP. I can tell it's total bullshit now that you've mentioned and I've done further research. That's why they have to add so many fucking vitamins, and they add traces o shit like "spirulina" , "purified water during processing"---dogs drink shit water bro---to make you think it's healthy...and they're fooking carnivores lol.
Just logistics had to get her home. I know she loves them bones and wants some more bad. Coming soon pup!

I caught it early she never puked once ---or yet...she is like Seinfeld---and no blood whatsoever. Poop---sorry dog owners talk about this too much--looks semi normal already.

We got a few pretty good at least "semi local" butchers around here. Gonna hit them up.


Thanks for all the links. Going deep into Dogtor J's, may email him. He saved my ass a few times, now my dog's ass.

Way to go for saving asses (and guts) J.

He says the grain free good more expensive dog food is at least a start. He also seems touchy and go on the veggies. I am seeing conflicting things in some articles of his, but not too confusing, seems to be figuring it out himself.
I should email him.


Now she's an immune super-dog I suppose, or will be if I keep on the health front, reminds me to keep healthy myself.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:


At this point, my inclination is that a combination of
muscle meat, bone, fat, organ meats is a good start.
I'm unconvinced about veg and fruit for a carnivore.

My "direct to the public" butcher minces up off cuts which will contain
a good combo of muscle meat, and fat. You can supplement that with
small treats of organ meat and marrow-rich bones as well.

Buy bulk for cost and convenience and freeze in packs of a few days worth.

"Local" butchers will be the best go to for all this
I think, but you can formulate / source yourself.


Am just thinking of a few of the area that aren't in the grocery store...super local in the cut ranch folk.
Garsh I am so glad I live out here now.
People act like the country is nazi Germany sometimes but it's a beacon of freedom if you ask me. Country Dogs Will Survive.

Yeah mixed feelings on the vegs and fruits. Getting a lot of this and that from so many people.

Maybe we can hold this thread for further research on that.

Anyone have any experience ?
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