Joined: 26 Feb 2011 Posts: 266 Location: west, pa, usa
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:08 am Post subject:
a plethora of possible theories
but what do they mean?
a theory is someone's guess as to what is "reality"
and it tell us two things
what is and what isn't possible
current "standard model" physics
promoted by the "establishment"
(yes the very same one that is "big oil")
limits our energy options to "fossil fuel, dumb nuclear,
and Rube Goldberg wind and solar.
all the "alternatives" shown here and others
look at "reality" differently
now "something" is going on
call it aether, zero point, quantum, etc
we may never know what it actually is
but with a logically consistent theory
much more can become "possible" than
what the current standard model now "allows" _________________ formerly known as duane in a previous registration
I have done none of the research you have and don't even have the armchair quantum physicists understanding (and I have only now just skimmed this thread). But I'll offer my opinion nonetheless. I suspect that sound is intrinsic to the "solidity" of whatever illusory reality we may find out physical bodies puttering around in.
Take for example cymatics (search on youtube if you haven't seen it). Sound pressure in air at the right frequencies will move physical matter into specific shapes and patterns.
Take for example the frequencies produced by adding the inside angles of perfect geometric shapes (at A = 430):
Triangle, 180 degrees, 180 hz = F# (root)
Square, 360 degrees, 360 hz = F# (root)
Pentagon, 540 degrees, 540 hz = C# (perfect 5th)
Hexagon, 720 degrees, 720 hz = F# (root)
Heptagon, 900 degrees, 900 hz = A# (major 3rd)
Octagon, 1080 degrees, 1080 hz = C# (perfect 5th)
after this you get notes in the F# triad only when using polygons with even numbers of sides
Nonagon, 1260 degrees, 1260 hz = between D# and E (ugly!)
Decagon, 1440 degrees, 1440 hz = F# (root)
Hendecagon, 1620 degrees, 1620 hz = G# (9th, suspension)
Dodecagon, 1800 degrees, 1800 hz = A# (major 3rd)
Triskaidecagon, 1980 degrees, 1980 hz = between B and C (ugly!)
Look at these shapes. The ones which appear "ugly" or "irregular" are the ones that don't sound nice. There is a correlation between seeing things that appear to be "consonant" to our eyes and hearing things that are consonant to our ears. _________________ Can't be beat, won't be beat, etc.
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 255 Location: Inverness, Scotland
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:59 pm Post subject:
I love this stuff. This is totally my bag. Although I haven't caught up on all of the links so far, I know that this thread really is going to go to the next level and I'm up for the trip. These issues have just about obsessed me for all of my life.
I've often felt that whatever the fundamental principle of "reality" actually is, it must be a form of consciousness itself. That is, an energy form which has awareness or self-awareness as an essential attribute. Lately, I'm more and more inclined to think that this conscious energy has actually manifested the illusion of a material world as some kind of creative exercise in pursuing knowledge of itself and expanding its own creative impulse, something like an artist's sketches which work out ideas before the completed work can be produced. It's almost as if it's taking a break, switching off the lights and stumbling about in the dark for a while just to see what it's like to be unaware.
(I'm sure we've all had moments when we've wondered what it's like to be a dog or a dolphin or a spider; imagine if you could find out by experiencing it for a short while! )
Okay, I don't think the Great Essential Consciousness is being quite as flippant as that by creating the physical universe, but I do think there's a purpose involved and it has some good reason for putting filters on our human consciousness while we're clattering about in this illusory environment.
It's really hard to set out these kinds of ideas in lines of written language, not least because we don't really think linearly and even more so because the truth certainly isn't linear. Moments of great insight and perception invariably feel as if they expand in all directions and through all dimensions. We simply don't have a method of communication which can transmit that enhanced awareness and the feeling of enlightenment. We do, however, know at a very deep level when we're in tune with the truth, when things all seem to fit and when the fog of confusion lifts for a time.
Music is a hugely significant part of this intellectual and spiritual ascension. Mathematical relationships between the degrees of the scale, numerical relationships that explain why some intervals are consonant while others are dissonant, the pros and cons of various tuning systems which have been devised over millennia; all of these, and more, have fascinated me for decades but way beyond all of the physics of the matter, it remains the case that when there's a beautiful piece of music in my head, it's my spirit that's being energised. (I wonder what kind of entanglement is involved between the consciousness of the composer and the perception of the music in the minds of countless people? )
To a human mind, a great tune makes a kind of sense and speaks a language which is not perceptible to any machine even though it can perfectly reproduce all of the physical sounds of a musical performance. The physical mathematical ratios are real but they're only steps of a ladder which our consciousness ascends to a higher state of being and receptivity.
(As an aside, it saddens me to note that the popular music industry is on a relentless mission to do exactly the opposite - to desensitise people, brutalise their aesthetic tastes and drag them down to a lower level of perception. That's probably one for another day though.)
Anyway, I'm going to stop rambling now and plunge into some of the links that are already up. I look forward to following developments. _________________ My real name is Gerry.
I'm interested in their ideas about the limitless source of energy that we could potentially tap into but I have no idea whether or not the sums really add up.
It's very interesting though. _________________ My real name is Gerry.
ManAtTheWindow anyone looked into Rodin's work on "Vortex Based Mathematics"?
I did go through it some time ago and it didn't add up in the end.
On the number stuff, he's likely just unknowingly rehashing old work by
James Clerk Maxwell. Yes it's one spectacular example of how the Base10
number system has wonderful internal dynamics. But there are others.
On the free energy, he's not in the race. There are no compelling
side-by-side tests for his coil winding technique versus others.
By comparison, Jim Murray(see Duaneh post above) is at least hands on
and running a lab which is something approximating to scientific inquiry.
The sad thing is that mainstream science is deeply flawed - yet so few
of it's critics knuckle down to scientifically deconstruct that tissue of lies.
Rupert Sheldrake is one such star who kicks science's ass.
It's never been more obvious that Sheldrake is right about the flaws in
science and right about the morphogenic nature of mind and reality.
Nature holds experience and structural know-how - built up over millennia
like the layers wrapped round an onion : morphic resonance.
But the "materialist belief system" in science won't accommodate that.
Sheldrake's criticisms of modern science in this censored Ted Talk,
go to the heart of the some of the arguments I will be using to deconstruct
-and then reconstruct- the science of how Mind Matters to Matter :
_________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
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