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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject: The Battle for Europe: Greece, now Spain Reply with quote

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And so here we are at the Tipping Point for
the NWO's Neoliberal Bankster Agenda.


Today's make or break meeting broke up quickly, after
the Greek side gave this message to the Banksters:

:fin


Now every bought and paid hack in the west's media
is ranting and raving about Tsipras and Varoufakis.

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See Banksters Fume!

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Leaders of the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund aimed bitter
criticism at the leftwing Greek government, accusing it of lying to its own
people, misrepresenting and misleading other EU leaders, refusing to
negotiate seriously, and taking Greece to the brink of catastrophe
.


The Luxembourg talks broke down within an hour of discussions on the
Greek crisis starting, indicating the bad blood between both sides.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/greece-faces-banking-crisis-after-eurozone-meeting-breaks-down



Ok so the list is:

- lying to its own people, Laughing
- misrepresenting and misleading other EU leaders, Wink
- refusing to negotiate seriously, Laughing
- taking Greece to the brink of catastrophe. Very Happy

All bullshit, smoke and bluster.

Greece got maybe 10% of the alleged loan bailouts.
90% of the funds were recycled straight back to the
Banksters - mostly in German and French banks.

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Bottom line:
Greece is NOT going to keep picking up that tab.

And if that means a default, then it does. Period.

The Banksters who rule the Euro core are in a tricky position.

That's the Banksters below - pointing the gun at their own heads.

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Hold it, men. He's not bluffing.
Listen to him, men. He's just crazy enough to do it.
Drop it! Or I swear I'll blow this nigger's head all over this town!
Oh, Lordy, Lord, he's desperate!
Do what he say!
Do what he say!



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These words earlier today
from Varoufakis (video below)
made my frikkin' day!

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Click and Scroll for Video


"I urged my colleagues in the Euro group to take seriously under
consideration the great difference between on the one hand, reforms
that attack parasitic rent seeking behavior and inefficiencies, and
on the other hand parametric changes that simply jack up already
high tax rates and reduce benefits to the weakest.
"


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/greece-faces-banking-crisis-after-eurozone-meeting-breaks-down


More video here with Varoufakis explaining todays events:
Varoufakis Eurogroup Press Conference (Skip to 17 minutes)

Varoufakis says there was not a single comment on his proposals in the Eurogroup meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPW3AnbBWwY

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TSIPRAS:

“As all of you are fully aware, we are at the moment at the centre of
a storm, of a whirlpool, but we live near the sea so we’re not scared
of storms. We are ready to go to new seas to reach new safe ports.

“Russia is one of the most important partners for us.”


PUTIN:

"Russia is open to the world. Our active cooperation with new centres
of global growth in no case means that we intend to pay less attention
to our dialogue with our traditional Western partners."

"We are following very closely what happens in Europe because it is our
major trading partner.
I hope that problems will go away and we will
continue to develop our relationship further."

"We are not creating a bloc-based approach. We are trying to create a
global approach. We are not being aggressive. We are persistent, we
are consistent in pursuing our interests.
"


http://news.yahoo.com/russia-open-world-cooperate-west-putin-154131396.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/19/greek-prime-minister-vladimir-putin-help-financial-crisis


An astute diplomatic and pragmatic approach by Putin.

Because if the EU decides to play hardball, there are consequences.

Current EU-wide economic sanctions against Russia need Greece's OK.

Until now, Tsipras has not even hinted that he would withdraw the OK.

But, if he did - it would free some countries to pursue their interests...

Read below and guess what the Plan B is....

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Russia will consider providing
financial assistance to Greece
— deputy PM


ST. PETERSBURG, June 19. /TASS/. Russia is ready to consider providing
financial assistance to Greece, Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich
told RT TV channel on Firday.

"We will support any decision [on solving the Greek debt crisis] which will
be proposed by Greece and our European partners.
Investment projects
and trade with Greece are priority for us. If they need financial assistance,
we will consider this issues," Dvorkovich said.

"Stable Europe and stable Greece is priority for us. We will support the
resolution of Greece’s financial crisis by all possible means," the deputy
prime minister stressed.

"Many countries in Europe want sanctions against Russia to be lifted as
soon as possible, and Greece is one of those countries
."

"Those countries think about their economy, and not about politics."
We believe that this is a constructive approach," Dvorkovich said.

"We definitely hold more consultations now with countries like this than
with leading European countries that do not want to continue economic
dialogue
," he stressed.

http://tass.ru/en/economy/802191


I think Varoufakis made his offer and walked on Thursday.

EU Finance ministers on Friday pumped €3.7 Billion into Greek banks.

Not out of generosity. Out of fear of EU deposit/bond hemorrhage.

People in Europe already saw ATM lines in Cyprus.

Seeing them again in Greece might create a certain impression.

The key Euro group nations are to meet in emergency Monday.

15 hrs ago I tweeted this about the Friday decision to advance €3.7 Billion:



I'm standing over the use of the word BLINK in that tweet.

Right now, I'm not expecting the trigger will be pulled on Monday.

I'm expecting THIS:



We shall see.

Interesting times. Laughing

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TSIPRAS:

“The EU should go back to its initial principles of solidarity, justice
and social justice
. Ensuring strict economic measures will lead us
nowhere. The so-called problem of Greece is the problem of the
whole European Union.”

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so we got a kick today.

And a kick a day will now drive this can...

....down the road until the end of this week.

The international media spin is that Tsipras gave ground
in new Greek proposals on pensions and sales tax (VAT)

See Video:



But if anybody's blinking, it's just as much Merkel and Germany,
as you can see from the detail text below and financial analysis
in the second video underneath.

My call is that there are under the table elements of this deal
which have been negotiated over the weekend and which are
favorable to Greece. This will entail financial engineering and
structural funds for refloating the Greek economy.

If so, today is optics ahead of a signed and sealed deal.

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European stock markets and Greek assets surged on Monday on hopes of
a last-minute deal to ease a crisis that is threatening to drive Greece out
of the euro and weaken the foundations of the European Union's single
currency.


"I am convinced that we will come to a final agreement in the course of
this week," European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker told a
late-night news conference.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose country is Greece's biggest
creditor, was more cautious. "I can't give any guarantee that that will
happen," she said of a final agreement. "There's still a lot of work to
be done."

The Greek proposals included higher taxes and welfare charges and steps
to curtail early retirement, but not the nominal pension and wage cuts first
sought by lenders
. Leftist Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, elected in January
on a promise to end austerity measures, also appeared to have avoided
raising value added tax on electricity or loosening job protection laws
.

Tsipras said the ball was back in the creditors' court and they should
provide a deal that would make Greece's huge debts affordable.

"We are seeking a comprehensive and viable solution that will be followed
by a strong growth package
and at the same time render the Greek
economy viable," he told reporters.



Again - you will see only the spin that Greece blinked.

But did they? Question

The Banksters planned to humiliate the Syriza Govt. by enforcing
a reversal of it's campaign promises. Why?:

To show voters that bankster neoliberal economics rule,
and it's pointless voting for parties who oppose that rule.

That plan is now dead in the water.

The school(EU) bully just found out that the new kid
in the playground is not such an easy mark after all. Idea

Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote:
Fintan:
there are under the table elements of this deal...
which will entail financial engineering and
structural funds
for refloating the Greek economy.


Well I was right and wrong at the same time.

The financial engineering was a €24 Billion writedown on Greek debt.

The structural funds deal was set to be €35 Billion to rebuild broken Greece.

France was behind the deal. That's all history now. Unreal.

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

Except to explain that reference in the second tweet above:

"Special interests" = IMF + BANKSTERS!

Now I don't know what playbook these arrogant f**ks are reading....

But this gambit will NEVER pass on the streets in Greece.

And because Tsipras has played his hand straight,
public opinion in Greece is hardening for an exit.

A couple of days ago I tweeted:

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The poll also found that 80% regarded unemployment as the greatest
negative consequence of economic austerity policies,and 69% believed
that the financial institutions were responsible for the talks deadlock.

http://t.co/DPs49zKvZf


That poll of people aged 22-45 is those young enough to need a future.

They're not buying it. And they know who to blame. It's not Tsipras.

No wonder his answer today
can be summed up like this:

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TALK TO THE HAND, BANKSTERS!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GET READY FOR CLASS WAR IN EUROPE.

That's the message in yet another concise
article on Greece from FailedEvolution Blog.

Just out:

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The global financial mafia fully exposed through Greece
by system failure

"Now the puzzle is completed.
Everything is clear.
This is a class war.."


While everyone was hoping for a deal between Greece and the creditors, the usual suspect, IMF, decided to undermine the negotiations again. The representatives of the global financial mafia had no choice this time but to expose themselves totally, dissolving the last pretexts.

Now, it is more than obvious that the only thing they care about is to get rid of the Leftist government in Greece, as soon as possible. From the first moment, when Tsipras presented equivalent measures to meet the fiscal targets, the propaganda inside and outside Greece was launched in full force. The mainstream media tried to present the measures as being worse than those proposed by the previous Samaras administration, in order to deconstruct Tsipras administration in front of the Greek voters.

This time, IMF took the role of the "bad cop" and returned to its initial positions, demanding further cuts in pensions and wages. IMF claimed that the increase in taxation for big businesses would lead to further recession. In reality the fund and the European institutions want to protect big businesses and multinationals, eliminating at the same time the small-medium business sector.

Remarkably, the latest development could be considered another tactical win by the Greek government. The Greek officials showed that they are willing to make compromises, bringing equivalent measures on the table. While some moderate European officials said that this could be a start for a new deal, IMF turned 180 degrees and blew up the approach. The reason is simple: according to the Greek proposals, the weight of the taxation would have been transferred to big businesses, instead of the usual victims which are the pensioners and the workers, and this is not good for the interests that the IMF serves.

Moreover, the Greek proposals would have set in danger the Greek experiment because they were rejecting further cuts and further dissolution of labor rights. This is certainly quite far from the creditors' plans.

Tsipras didn't miss the chance and said that "The non-acceptance of equivalent measures is unprecedented. Neither in Ireland nor in Portugal. Nowhere! This strange stance may be due to two reasons. Either they do not want an agreement or they serve specific interests in Greece," exposing IMF and the rest of the "institutions".

Now the puzzle is completed. Everything is clear. This is a class war, as we mentioned many times in this blog: The current Greek government should be removed even without pretexts through this financial fascism because it threatens plutocrats' plans. Podemos follow in Spain and they are afraid that they may lose the control of Europe. European people should be prepared for the war.


http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2015/06/the-global-financial-mafia-fully.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsipras to Tusk:
This is not a game!

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"The game is over!"

- EU council president Donald Tusk

"1.5 million unemployed, three million poor and thousands of families
without income, living only with grandparents’ pensions, is not a game."


-Greek PM Alexis Tsipras

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHY KICKING THE GREEK CAN AGAIN WON'T WORK

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News that the EU and IMF are now contemplating prolonging the country’s
bailout programme by another five months will land with the force of a
bombshell in Athens, our correspondent Helena Smith reports.


There are few who will welcome this news. Kicking the can that is the great
Greek debt crisis down the road will not only fail to staunch the political
uncertainty that has plagued the country, but have potentially devastating
effects for the economy
.

It will be a major defeat for the government which has pushed for a
comprehensive deal that could alleviate, once and for all, the negative
consequences of this ongoing nightmare,” the prominent political analyst
Aristides Hatzis told the Guardian. “Now we have another case of ‘extend
and pretend’ which has been at the root of the saga for the last five years.

It is like a bad soap opera.”

The leftist-led government had wanted a deal that would at least
guarantee financing until the end of 2016 – what Euclid Tsakalotos
described in an interview for this blog as a “mid-term solution” that would
quash scenarios of Grexit, reignite investor interest in Greece and give the
economy the time and space to economically recover. “A short-term
solution would be the worst of all
,” he told me.

The news was quick to send shudders through the financial sector.

We will rot inside the euro zone,” one banker said requesting anonymity.
“Nobody wants this solution, it just prolongs the Greek drama.


Guardian LIVE

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- Greece rejects creditors’ plan to extend bailout by five months
- Eurozone ministers to draw up quarantine plans in case of Greek default


Eurozone finance ministers and Greece’s creditors are to draw up plans
for emergency measures to ringfence the country’s financial system unless
the Greek prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, accepts the creditors’ terms for a
five-month extension of Athens’s bailout on Saturday.

Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis says reaching a deal on Saturday
depends on the creditors. Meanwhile a senior European official has struck
an upbeat note, saying chances of a deal are more than 50%. Hopes of a
deal helped steady global stock markets.

Greece’s creditors had proposed a five-month bailout extension and
Eurozone sources suggested differences between the two sides had
narrowed.

But Greece said it had rejected the proposed extension and Tsipras has
called a cabinet meeting for this evening
to prepare for the Eurogroup
talks.

As the cabinet meets in Athens tonight, communist party supporters have
poured into Syntagma square
to protest against the demands for more
austerity by Greece’s creditors.


No way would Tsipras accept a 5 month extension.
Greece would then find itself on the end of Op Gladio.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ATHENS FRIDAY 26TH JUNE



GREEK INDEPENDENCE DAY
- JULY 5th, 2015


:fin GREEKS TO HOLD REFERENDUM TO DECLARE BANKSTER ERA OVER

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"Some have bet on the possibility of a third bailout in June.
I'm very sorry but once again we will disappoint them," the PM declared,
adding that “the Greek people put an end to bailouts with their vote."

"Forget a third bailout” - Alexis Tsipras.


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Greece to hold national referendum on debt deal

Published time: June 26, 2015 22:17
Edited time: June 26, 2015 23:07 Get short URL

The Greek PM has announced a national referendum on July 5 on the
conditions of the debt deal with international creditors. It’s up to the Greek
people, Tsipras said, to make a fateful decision on the country’s
sovereignty, independence and future.


“These proposals, which clearly violate the European rules and the basic rights to work, equality and dignity show that the purpose of some of the partners and institutions was not a viable agreement for all parties, but possibly the humiliation of an entire people,” Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras said in a televised address to the nation, as cited by Reuters.

The referendum will be held on July 5, a few days past the June 30 deadline, Tsipras announced.

In order to avoid a technical default, Athens will ask for a short-term extension on the bailout program and buy time to hold the popular vote. Tsirpas further added that German Chancellor Angela Merkel and European Central Bank chief Mario Draghi have already been informed of the plans.

The referendum will be a simple “yes” or “no” question on the measures proposed under the debt deal, local media report. One way or the other Tsipras said that he will respect the will of the people, who have voted for him for his anti-austerity campaign promises.

Considering the public sentiment, the Greeks would likely reject the terms of the bailout agreement offered by creditors, the PM’s senior aide, Nikos Pappas, said. Meanwhile, Greece’s development minister Panagiotis Lafazanis also remains certain that the Greek will react “with a resounding no.”

The unconventional move in modern politics to seek public support or rejection of an unpopular decision comes shortly after Athens resoundingly rejected the latest conditions its creditors set for a five-month extension of the bailout program and €15.5bn ($17.3bn) funding.

http://rt.com/news/270046-greece-debt-deal-referendum/

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rough Translation

But you can read between the lines eh? blond

Maybe not just a Euro exit - but a HARD METAL BACKED Drachma currency?!

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27 June, 2015

'Silver Drachma': Plan for Grexit back in 2012 revealed!

27 June, 2015

Shocking recent findings from a big investigation in Greece

An investigation by the interrogator Dimitris Fokas, started back in 2012, was completed and the report with the final conclusions was given to the Council of Appeals, which will decide further investigation.

The report is based on references of the Greek and US intelligence services, through secret documents revealed by Wikileaks.

During the investigation, the authorities decided to recall the telecommunications privacy of George Alexander Rondos (former advisor of George Papandreou), who has testified as a witness for the investigation.

According to the findings, in 2012 Rondos spoke with the Mexican entrepreneur-mines owner, Julio Salinas Price, to close a deal to supply Greece with metal to produce its own currency and leave the euro!

The contacts for the plan 'silver drachma' took place two years after the entrance of the country in the Memorandum.

For practical purposes the plan was named 'silver drachma'. According to this plan, a new currency would had been created at two times the value of the annual GDP. It would be covered at 20% by the value of metal from the supplier, a source states in the findings of the investigation. According to the same source, the cost had been evaluated at 70 billion euros!

Also, according to the findings, the former Greek PM Kostas Karamanlis was receiving intense pressure to abandon specific policies related to the turn of Greece to Russia and the deepening of the relations and cooperation between the two countries in sectors like energy and armament deals.


Source:

http://tvxs.gr/news/ellada/porisma-fotia-sxedio-pythia-gia-anatropi-karamanli-epistrofi-sti-draxmi-sxediaze-o-papan

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