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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Stop it again Webfairy/bluefairy or whatever the fuck! Reply with quote

Ray Ubinger wrote:
I think a few of the boyz in the Naudet-FDNY snuff film may have gotten real firefighter training, but only to make them better actors.


Dude! Keep posting! Yours are SO intriguingly ghoulish ... (like a GOP convention) ... that I just can't resist, being it the month of Halloween and all.

Just think, a firefighter's chaplain ... killed by gun shot, lethal injection, and a cattle prod has the audacity to lose a foot during the rescue attempt ... cool!

I've always been partial to the rope, on the staircase, by the butler myself ...

Fucking, bloody hell!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Stop it again Webfairy/bluefairy or whatever the fuck! Reply with quote

hawkwind wrote:
Keep posting! Yours are SO intriguingly ghoulish ... (like a GOP convention) ... that I just can't resist, being it the month of Halloween and all.


http://thewebfairy.com/911/halloween/index.htm
http://thewebfairy.com/911/halloween/halloween.htm

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Just think, a firefighter's chaplain ... killed by gun shot, lethal injection, and a cattle prod has the audacity to lose a foot during the rescue attempt ... cool!


No one said he lost a foot. The foot is just a little suggestion of how sloppily they were carrying him.

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I've always been partial to the rope, on the staircase, by the butler myself ...


That doesn't explain all the unidentified flying objects in the S11 footage, nor how the Naudets managed to have a SECOND camera running at the instant of the 1st Hit
http://911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm
nor how they managed to have TWO cameras inside WTC-1, as evidenced by the two different shots of Mr. Backofhead vigorously stabbing his right arm toward the space where they are holding up Father Judge, whose left hand slides down Chief Pfeifer's back after the stab.
http://911foreknowledge.com/judge.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Flying birds Reply with quote

I am no expert in high-tech new explosives technologies nor do I want to speak cathegorically but... after seeing the scene at original full quality and recalling a few David Attenborough's documentaries I presume that THESE ARE NO OTHER THAN MATING BIRDS IN LOVE, that's why you see them flying so close! Very Happy or more likely they were flying like that because of the sound of the explosion.

Jokes aside, It's true that these moving forms seem odd if you analyse them closely. They indeed at times seem to be quite big however It's hard to make judgements from this video material and perspective on a flat screen. I would say they are just birds flying not so far from the camera. Other less plausible option IMO is that they could be some kind of post-production addition designed to mispend our time, mislead, fool, and discredit 9/11 skeptics... sometimes I find it hard to believe so many things might be aimed at fooling 9/11 skeptics, are we so important? Anyway I stick to "just birds or video anomalies". I may be wrong but I have a feeling our time is being mispent.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Flying birds Reply with quote

THX wrote:
I am no expert in high-tech new explosives technologies nor do I want to speak cathegorically but... after seeing the scene at original full quality and recalling a few David Attenborough's documentaries I presume that THESE ARE NO OTHER THAN MATING BIRDS IN LOVE, that's why you see them flying so close! Very Happy or more likely they were flying like that because of the sound of the explosion.

Jokes aside, It's true that these moving forms seem odd if you analyse them closely. They indeed at times seem to be quite big however It's hard to make judgements from this video material and perspective on a flat screen. I would say they are just birds flying not so far from the camera. Other less plausible option IMO is that they could be some kind of post-production addition designed to mispend our time, mislead, fool, and discredit 9/11 skeptics... sometimes I find it hard to believe so many things might be aimed at fooling 9/11 skeptics, are we so important? Anyway I stick to "just birds or video anomalies". I may be wrong but I have a feeling our time is being mispent.


Don't settle for a Flashie, get the DVD and watch the objects for yourself. If they are birds, how do birds emit flashing white light? And after the Flash excerpt ends, on the DVD you can see that same "bird" actually becoming a dot of white light moving along the surface of a foreground building.

If the Naudets created these to add into their footage, all the more reason to be suspicious of the Naudets.

There are many other examples, several of which I've already provided links to, of odd "birds" in S11 footage. The oddnesses that they share include being too big or too fast for real birds, or morphing quickly from very dark to very bright, and back.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Flying birds Reply with quote

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Yet another unidentified flying object in S11 footage, just discovered by me ten minutes ago
http://www.nyctv.com/Censor_911_Video.htm
from 05:30 to 05:38
flying leftward (northward) away from the Towers.
It looks like a long thin rod.

Also of note,
a very slowly rising object on the north face of WTC-7, visible sporadically (camera moves around a lot) from about the 5 minute mark onward

Once you know to look, it gets hard NOT to see weird little things flying around in S11 footage.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: Flying birds Reply with quote

[quote="Ray Ubinger"]ps
Yet another unidentified flying object in S11 footage, just discovered by me ten minutes ago
http://www.nyctv.com/Censor_911_Video.htm
from 05:30 to 05:38
flying leftward (northward) away from the Towers.
It looks like a long thin rod.
Just checked it out Ray.Definately weird. White,like a smoke balloon,comes out of the opening, travels a short distance and disappears!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: FBI confiscates Naudet brothers footage on the night of 9/11 Reply with quote

FBI CONFISCATES NAUDET BROTHERS FOOTAGE ON THE NIGHT OF 9/11

I think this is an interesting issue to investigate about the Naudet Brothers; it comes from Thierry Meyssan's book "9/11: The Big Lie"
(2nd part, chapter 7)

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"That very night FBI agents awaited for the Naudet brothers at
their home, who were in Manhattan during the attacks. The FBI
confiscated the 5 hour video recording the two journalists captured
inside the towers and at the plazas. Only six footage minutes were
given back to them corresponding to the time of the first plane
crash. This document, that could help in the understanding of the
World Trade Center collapses remains sealed."


Note: This is a translation into english I've done, not the original
translated english text.


When I first read this it sound very shocking, it seemed like confirming suspicions about government involvement in 9/11,
you know, FBI confiscating this footage... what for? was it for investigating the causes of the collapses or were they trying to conceal evidence? (as has been said about FBI confiscating CCTV camera footage sorrounding the Pentagon area and telling employees to make no comments) is this some kind of red herring? have the Naudet brothers ever said anything about this? Can anybody shed some light on this issue?

PS. Needless to say that the statement "Only six footage minutes were
given back to them"
(implying that footage from inside the towers was not released back by the FBI) is not accurate according to the footage shown in the Naudet brothers documentary.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: FBI confiscates Naudet brothers footage on the night of Reply with quote

THX wrote:
from Thierry Meyssan's book "9/11: The Big Lie"
(2nd part, chapter 7)

Quote:
"That very night FBI agents awaited for the Naudet brothers at
their home, who were in Manhattan during the attacks. The FBI
confiscated the 5 hour video recording the two journalists captured
inside the towers and at the plazas. Only six footage minutes were
given back to them corresponding to the time of the first plane
crash. This document, that could help in the understanding of the
World Trade Center collapses remains sealed."


I'm inclined to simply ignore Meyssan's extraordinary claim, unless he offers a source for it. As far as I'm aware--which is very, when it comes to the No-Day Bruthaz--they themselves have never talked publicly about such a confiscation.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71eKhC1oqr4

Jules Naudet recalls the FBI dropping by after hearing about the footage.

Charlie Rose interview, a few minutes.

Read the comments.

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