But about the dire state of rough justice and
paramilitary policing in the good 'ol US of A.
Spealking of which.....
It's been an unanswered puzzle exactly who carried out a bizarre
triple murder in Massachusetts in 2011, in which a friend of Tamerlan
Tsarnaev was a victim.
Three men were found at an apartment in Waltham with their throats cut.
It's also been a puzzle why the murderer(s) left behind quite significant
quantities of cash and hash - which was found lying around the room.
Who carries out a drugs-and-cash-related TRIPPLE murder and yet
doesn't even bother to take the free drugs and cash?
Puzzle no more. Consider these loose
ends now tied with an attractive ribbon.
Looks like the Feds Found themselves
a convenient Patsy for that crime.
One who won't be talking.
Feds Kill Friend of Boston Suspect During Interrogation
"Felt Inside He Was Going To Get Shot" by the FBI.
FBI investigates links between Tsarnaev
brothers and man shot in Florida
Reports link Ibragim Todashev, thought to be friend of Boston
suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, to 2011 Massachusetts murder
Richard Luscombe in Miami
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 May 2013 19.04 BST
An FBI agent shot dead a man believed to be a friend of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects Tamerlan and Djokhar Tsarnaev, during a "violent confrontation" in a Florida apartment early on Wednesday.
Sources said that Ibragim Todashev, 27, "flipped out" under questioning by the federal agent and two Massachusetts police officers about his connection to the brothers who are accused of carrying out the 15 April attack that killed three people and injured more than 260. The FBI did not immediately confirm a report that Todashev, a Chechen national, was also being interrogated about a possible role in a triple murder in Massachusetts in 2011, in which a friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a victim.
Dave Couvertier, an FBI spokesman, said that Wednesday's shooting, at a private apartment close to Orlando's Universal Studios theme park, was under review by a team of agents sent to Florida from Washington.
"Based on preliminary information … the agent along with two Massachusetts state police troopers and other law enforcement personnel were interviewing an individual in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual," Couvertier said in a statement. "During the confrontation, the individual was killed and the agent sustained non-life threatening injuries."
He did not confirm the suspect's name or why he was being questioned at a private residence, but Khusen Taramov, a friend of the dead man, told reporters that Todashev had been interviewed several times in recent weeks and had recently cancelled a trip to his homeland to see his parents. Taramov said Todashev, a former Boston resident, had last spoken to Tsarnaev about a month ago but that they only knew each other through their shared interest in Mixed Martial Arts and he had no connection with the attack.
"They met a few times because he was a fighter and [Tsarnaev] was a boxer. They just knew each other. That's it," Mr Taramov told an Orlando news channel, WESH TV. "Me and him and my friends, we knew this was going to happen. That's why he wanted to leave the country. But he cancelled the tickets. The FBI's been pushing him, 'Don't leave, don't leave.' So he decided to stay," he said.
According to WESH TV, Todashev was initially co-operative during the interview, which took place in the early hours of Wednesday at the apartment. But the channel quoted unidentified investigators who said Todashev became violent just as he was about to sign a confession to admit a role in a September 2011 murder. In that incident, three men were found at an apartment in Waltham, Massachusetts, with their throats cut and with large quantities of banknotes and marijuana strewn around. One of the victims, Brendan Mess, 25, was a close friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed by police in Boston four days after the Marathon bombing.
A spokesman for the Middlesex County state attorney's office said it was "an open investigation" and would not comment further.
Records from Florida's Orange County Sheriffs Department show that Todashev was arrested on 4 May on a charge of aggravated battery causing great bodily harm, after a fight with two men over a parking spot at an Orlando shopping mall. According to the arrest warrant, a 35-year-old man was admitted to hospital with several teeth missing and a split upper lip, but he declined to press charges and Todashev was released. The warrant said: "By his own admission Todashev was recently a former mixed martial arts fighter. This skill puts his fighting ability way above that of a normal person."
Taramov said he and Todashev were questioned for about three hours on Tuesday, about the Boston attack and about how they knew the Tsarnaev brothers. "They took me and my friend, the suspect that got killed," he said. "They were talking to us, both of us, right? And they said they need him for a little more, for a couple more hours, and I left, and they told me they're going to bring him back. They never brought him back."
He added that his friend had "felt inside he was going to get shot" by the FBI.
John Miller, a former assistant director of the FBI, now a CBS news analyst, said agents went to the apartment after midnight to question Todashev further about the cancelled Chechnya trip. "He had been interviewed along with a number of other people in the apartment complex, but the interest in him was higher because of a couple of factors: he was in contact with Tamerlan Tsarnaev, he had been to Boston to visit him, and he was planning a trip to Chechnya," Miller said.
These deaths were a rare event. Just two other team members
have died in training - one in 2006 and the other in 1998.
A law enforcement official said the agents were killed while training
to use a rope for landing on a ship from a helicopter.
The official said the helicopter encountered weather difficulties and the
agents fell into the water rather than making a landing on the ship. The
official believed winds were a factor but did not know if it was raining at
The official said the agents died as a result of the impact rather
than drowning. The accident took place about 12 nautical miles off
shore, the official said.
If dirty work was afoot, then 12 miles offshore was a good place.
The entire incident seems to have been solely under FBI control.
The Coast Guard was not involved, and the ER were not called
in advance of the arrival of the two agents by helicopter:
Special Agents Lorek and Shaw were based in Quantico and were in
Hampton Roads this past week for the training.
After the accident, the agents were transported to Sentara Norfolk General Hospital in a helicopter, landing at the hospital's helipad. It is unclear if the hospital knew the helicopter was coming.
A spokesman for Sentara tells WAVY.com it is protocol for helicopters that routinely use the hospital to radio ahead to alert the Emergency Department. Helicopters that are out of jurisdiction may not have the hospital's frequency programmed into its radios. It is unknown exactly what happened when the helicopter landed.
The cause of death of the two agents has not been released.
An investigator with the Norfolk Medical Examiner's Office said Sunday that no information regarding the cause of death would be released until Monday morning at the earliest.
A Coast Guard spokesperson told WAVY.com Sunday there was no Coast Guard involvement in the incident, but the Coast Guard did receive a page about the incident Friday night.
To make this more impenetrable, the nature of their work means that
there is little about them in the public domain. Furthermore, the same
issue means nobody's talking much to the media.
It also looks like at least one HR Team colleague of the deceased agents
was fielding questions from inquisitive media at the agent's family home:
The often secretive nature of their work was reflected Monday in the scant
details released about the agents, not only about their work in the field,
but in their lives at home. The pastor of Lorek's church, where Lorek's
funeral service is scheduled for Wednesday, would only say that the
family, including daughters age 8 and 11, "were active members from
the day they hit Richmond."
A neighbor of Lorek's in a community of 14,000 northwest of Richmond
would only say, "The family is very private. It's just sad."
The FBI said that Shaw is survived by his wife, 3-year-old daughter and
He lived on a quiet cul-de-sac in Stafford County. A man who identified
himself as an FBI colleague said the family did not wish to speak publicly.
The colleague, who also declined to comment, wore a black polo shirt
embroidered with the FBI Hostage Rescue Team's motto: "Servare Vitas."
The Latin phrase means "To save lives."
It could not be determined what missions Shaw or Lorek had performed.
A person who answered the phone at Lorek's house in Glen Allen said the
family did not wish to speak about the agent. Calls to his parents and
brother were not returned. http://usat.ly/16cQu2n
Finally, check the pastor's comment above and another comment from
the same pastor shown below:
Lorek, 41, and his wife and two daughters joined Three Chopt Church of
Christ in suburban Richmond about six years ago, minister Bob Odle said.
"They are as solid as they come," Odle said. "They were here every time
the doors were open."
IF these unusual deaths are relevant, my first guess is that they connect to the boat scene, and the various reported inconsistencies thereof.
For example - was it FBI's HRT who first handled Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at the boat scene, or Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority SWAT, or others?
All of the early reports, such as this one from CBS (19 April), suggest it was HRT:
...The FBI's hostage rescue team arrived and took tactical control of that scene.
...The FBI hostage rescue teams made an entry to the boat, were able to observe the suspect still moving and pull him out. They confirmed he was wounded and there was a lot of blood, but said the wound appeared to have occurred earlier.
Three things are potentially interesting about this story/footage:
1) Despite earlier reports, local Transit SWAT are now painted as the reluctant heroes, not FBI/HRT;
2) The MBTA spokesman commented that the "throat injury looked more like a knife wound";
3) The reaction to this comment by the three MBTA officers positioned behind the spokesman.
Members of the SWAT team who apprehended Boston bombing suspect #2 from the boat he was hiding in spoke to Anderson Cooper in their first national interview.
...It’s important to note that the police officers from the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority SWAT team insist they are not heroes and refuse to take credit for capturing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on Friday night. They say his arrest was a team effort involving several agencies.
- Why the move to publicly distance HRT from the boat scene?
- What other agencies/individuals were present and may have been allowed to access Dzhokhar before HRT or SWAT "apprehended" him?
- With HRT in ostensible "tactical control" of the scene, would team members have been privy to sensitive details regarding possible access prior to arrest (i.e. throat cutting)?
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We have Boston bombs suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev (a close
friend of one Waltham victim) dead in an alleged shootout;
We have Ibragim Todashev, an aquaintance of Tamerlan's - dead
from a bullet to the back of the head by FBI agents!
Today, it emerged that Ibragim told his father that he thought
Tamerlan had been set up to take blame for the bombings.
Last week it also emerged that Ibragime told a friend that
he "felt inside he was going to get shot" by the FBI.
He was. Six times - including to the back of the head.
The FBI claim he was about to confess to involvement in the triple
murder, throat-slitting in Waltham. That would have closed the
murders circle quite neatly.
Today the deceased man's father told reporters:
"I'd only seen and heard things like that in the movies - they
shoot somebody and then a shot in the head to make sure."
"These just aren't FBI agents, they're bandits," he added.
We know how he feels. This is getting bizarre.
Ibragim Todashev's father:
FBI killed my son "execution-style"
By MAX SEDDON, Associated Press Published: May 30, 2013
at 9:15 AM PDT Last Updated: May 30, 2013 at 9:29 AM PDT
MOSCOW (AP) - The father of a Chechen immigrant killed in Florida
while being interrogated by the FBI about his ties to a Boston Marathon
bombings suspect said Thursday that the U.S. agents killed his son
At news conference in Moscow, Abdul-Baki Todashev showed journalists
16 photographs that he said were of his son, Ibragim, in a Florida morgue.
He said his son had six gunshot wounds to his torso and one to the back of
his head and the pictures were taken by his son's friend, Khusen Taramov.
It was not immediately possible to authenticate the photographs.
The FBI says 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter Ibragim Todashev was
killed last week during a violent confrontation in his Orlando home while an
FBI agent and two Massachusetts state troopers questioned him about his
ties to slain Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, as well
as about a 2011 triple slaying in Massachusetts.
Three law enforcement officials said initially that Todashev had lunged at
the FBI agent with a knife, although two of them later said it was no longer
clear what had happened.
Greg Comcowich, a spokesman for the Boston FBI, declined to comment
Thursday on the elder Todashev's claim that his son was unarmed.
Abdul-Baki Todashev said the photos were emailed to him by Taramov,
who apparently was at the morgue to identify the body. The father said
Taramov was part of the Muslim community holding the body for the
family until they could retrieve it.
The father said Taramov told him that U.S. agents interrogated him on
the street while five officials interrogated Todashev in his Florida house
for eight hours on May 22, the night he was shot. He said his son was
"100 percent unarmed."
Todashev's father said his son moved to the U.S. in 2008 on a study
exchange program and met Tsarnaev at a boxing gym in Boston in 2011,
about a year before he moved to Orlando. He said the two were "not
particularly close friends."
Prior to last month's bombings, Todashev underwent an operation for a
sports injury and was on crutches, making it physically impossible for him
to have been involved in the bombings, his father said. He added that
Todashev had recently received a green card and was planning to return
to Chechnya for the summer last Friday, two days after he was killed.
The father said he and his brother were interviewed at the U.S. Embassy
in Moscow on Thursday as they sought a visa to take his son's body back
FBI agents interrogated the younger Todashev twice before the night he
was shot, his father said. Todashev told him that he thought Tsarnaev had
been set up to take blame for the bombings.
"I'd only seen and heard things like that in the movies - they shoot
somebody and then a shot in the head to make sure," Todashev said.
"These just aren't FBI agents, they're bandits," he added.
Washington Post Editorial Board
Says Answers Needed In Death
of Man "Executed" by FBI Agents
A Washington Post editorial dated Fri, 31st May will call for answers
to questions raised about the death in Florida of a man who was being
interrogated in connection with issues around the Boston Bombings.
Family and friends of Ibragim Todashev yesterday called for an independent
investigation. So has the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
The Wash Post said that a quick and credible investigation was needed to
prevent what the Post calls "wild conspiracy theories" from gaining
It's a little late for that I'm afraid.
Answers needed in death of
Tamerlan Tsarnaev acquaintance
By Editorial Board, Friday, May 31, 12:14 AM
LAST WEEK, a team of FBI agents and Massachusetts police officers questioned Ibragim Todashev, an associate of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings who was killed days after that calamity.
One of the agents left the interview with minor injuries. Mr. Todashev was carted out with, apparently, several bullet holes in his body. We say “apparently” because journalists have gotten a tangle of conflicting reports from law enforcement sources about what happened, many of which look bad for the FBI.
As best we can make out, Mr. Todashev had confessed to participating with Mr. Tsarnaev, a fellow Chechen, in a 2011 triple murder. He then apparently did something to provoke an FBI agent in the room, and the agent shot him. An early account — all have been provided anonymously — indicated that Mr. Todashev had a knife. On Wednesday, though, it emerged that he was unarmed. Many reports agree that he overturned a table. Some suggest that Mr. Todashev might have been lunging for the agent’s gun, or — weirdly — a samurai sword in the room. The Post reported that the agent may have been alone with Mr. Todashev at the time of the scuffle.
From Moscow, Mr. Todashev’s father is alleging that the FBI executed his son. With the eyes of the world once again on the United States’ response to an act of terrorism and its treatment of foreign nationals, the last thing the U.S. government needs to do is fuel wild conspiracy theories by releasing too little information or investigating too slowly. The Obama administration must move heaven and earth to get to the bottom of what happened and make it public — quickly......
Police response training planned, but bombs hit first
The scenario had been carefully planned: A terrorist group prepared to hurt vast numbers of people around Boston would leave backpacks filled with explosives at Faneuil Hall, the Seaport District, and in other towns, spreading waves of panic and fear. Detectives would have to catch the culprits.
Months of painstaking planning had gone into the exercise, dubbed “Operation Urban Shield,” meant to train dozens of detectives in the Greater Boston area to work together to thwart a terrorist threat. The hypothetical terrorist group was even given a name: Free America Citizens, a home-grown cadre of militiamen whose logo would be a metal skull wearing an Uncle Sam hat and a furious expression, according to a copy of the plans obtained by the Boston Globe.
But two months before the training exercise was to take place, the city was hit with a real terrorist attack executed in a frighteningly similar fashion. The chaos of the Boston Marathon bombings disrupted plans for the exercise, initially scheduled for this weekend, forcing police to postpone. Now officials must retool aspects of the training.
“The real thing happened before we were able to execute,” said a law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the planned exercise. “We’ve already been tested.” _________________ formerly known as duane in a previous registration
Head of Boston FBI Office Either Pushed
Into Retirement, or Distances Himself From FBI Dirt
- FBI announced 11 June that Special Agent in Charge Richard DesLauriers would retire in July.
- Blogger Jeff Taylor argues this makes little sense; suggests connection with the apparent execution of Ibragim Todashev by FBI agent(s) on 22 May; also cites report that DesLauriers seemed uncomfortable early in the bombing investigation:
Less than two months after saying that in response to the Boston bombings, Massachusetts native and Special Agent in Charge Richard DesLauriers, 53, is leaving the Bureau after 26 years, bound for a job with a truck rental company. In Michigan.
... Official accounts of how Todashev died have ranged from nonsensical to comical. The name of the agent responsible for the shooting still has not been released and the matter is supposedly still under internal investigation by the Bureau.
... More curious still, is that not a single news account of DesLauriers’ retirement that I could find mentioned the Todashev incident. The AP version did, however, allow DesLauriers to backdate his interest in retirement and the Penske job to March, weeks before the bombing.
Square that with this quote from April:
As a 26-year veteran of the FBI, DesLauriers spent most of that time in the counterespionage unit, transferring between bureaus in Boston, New York, and Washington.
He was the FBI’s deputy assistant director heading counterintelligence operations when he was named special agent in charge in Boston in 2010 – just as the storied Operation Ghost Stories investigation ended.
“It was my desire to get back to Boston, this is my home,” he said.
The attacks at the Boston Marathon were also personal for DesLauriers, a sports fan and an avid runner.
“The fact that a marathon with such a cherished tradition like the Boston Marathon, the fact that there would be acts of violence against runners and spectators, at such a wonderful event, I found it particularly galling,” he said.
Again and again DesLauriers has been portrayed as the glue holding the bombing case together, a uniquely qualified counter-intel vet who has handled big jobs before. Yet two months into a giant case and after just three years as SAC, he’s off to Bloomfield Hills.
Bonus Observation: Worth noting that Paul Stiles thought something was up with DesLauriers long before the Todashev incident, noting that after the bombing suspect’s capture in April, the FBI chief did not seem happy:
The FBI agent in charge, Richard DesLauriers, was one of the last to speak and he read a short statement from a note card. What really stood out to me was his attitude. He was almost depressed and seemed like he had a lot on his mind. After watching earlier press conferences, he would speak first and was always confident. There was no doubt that he was in charge. In this latest press conference he was definitely not in charge and the confidence was absent.
The story linked at the end covers a third possibility, proposing that DesLauriers was forced to resign over a supposed mistake in releasing the suspect photos -- although how anyone could read this as a "screw up", especially one worthy of booting the head of the office, is lost on me:
My thoughts turned to the FBI decision to release the photos to the public. With all the photos available, I had little doubt that the FBI’s facial recognition software had already identified the suspects. Releasing the photos was a way to smoke out a suspect and since events began to unfold within an hour of the release, it was pretty obvious that the FBI knew the suspects, possibly their location and had a plan to exploit their response.
Someone screwed up and reading between the lines of tonight’s press conference, it appears that the blame will fall on the FBI and Special Agent DesLauriers.
Here's Peter Dale Scott of WhoWhatWhy.com, asking...
Was Tamerlan Tsarnaev a Double Agent Recruited by the FBI?
Amid the swirl of mysteries surrounding the alleged Boston bombers, one fact, barely touched upon in the mainstream U.S. media, stands out: There is a strong possibility that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older of the two brothers, was a double agent, perhaps recruited by the FBI.
If Tsarnaev was a double agent, he would be just one of thousands of young people coerced by the FBI, as the price for settling a minor legal problem, into a dangerous career as an informant.
That he was so coerced is the easiest explanation for two seemingly incompatible incidents in his life:
The first is that he returned to Russia in 2012, ostensibly to renew his Russian passport so he could file an application for US citizenship.
The second is that Tsarnaev then jeopardized his citizenship application with conspicuous, provocative — almost theatrical — behavior that seemed more caricature than characteristic of a Muslim extremist.
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Last Wednesday, alleged Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, appeared for the first time in court. Tsarnaev was sporting a "new" thick Russian accent; according to his wrestling buddies he never had one. Dr. Daniel Talmor, the Israeli head of emergency services at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, along with former IDF combat physician Dr. Kevin Tabb, who treated him, said at the time that Tsarnaev sustained serious injuries, but that he would live. Indeed the younger Tsarnaev apparently has survived, and has also apparently recovered his speech - albeit with a new accent - something we were told he had lost after allegedly shooting himself through the neck (despite being unarmed).
Abdulbaki Todashev, the father of slain Boston Marathon bombing witness Ibragim Todashev, released an open letter to President Obama last week pleading for justice and asking the president to ensure that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) not interfere with his investigation into the killing.
In the letter, the elder Todashev accused the FBI of murdering his son in order to prevent him from testifying in court.
Ibragim Todashev, 27, was shot to death at his Orlando, Florida apartment last May by FBI agents who were interrogating him about his ties to Tamerlan Tsarnaev. An ethnic Chechen like Todashev, Tamerlan Tsarnaev is alleged to have carried out the April 15, 2013 Boston Marathon bombings along with his younger brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Three people were killed and another 264 injured in the terrorist bombings.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed by police on April 19. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was captured and faces a possible death sentence on charges of using weapons of mass destruction and malicious destruction of property resulting in death.
The death of Ibragim Todashev remains unexplained more than seven months after the event. Initially, it was alleged that Todashev had lunged at officials, wielding a knife, during the interrogation, upon implicating himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a 2011 triple killing in Waltham, Massachusetts, a suburb of Boston, where the two had been acquainted. Government officials subsequently acknowledged that Todashev had not been armed when he was fatally shot.
Authorities have refused to release the name of the FBI agent who shot and killed the unarmed Todashev at point-blank range, and the FBI has blocked the release of the autopsy report. No charges have been filed and no one has been arrested for what was evidently a state murder.
The establishment media have imposed a virtual wall of silence on the extraordinary death of Todashev, which has continued in relation to the open letter to Obama from his father.
In the letter, Abdulbaki wrote: “My reaching out to you is dictated by the calling of my soul and the unsubsiding pain of the father who has lost his guiltless son to a violent shooting death…
“Did my son know that he had the right to remain silent or did he have rights at all, including the right to live? Being a citizen of another country he might not be aware of the laws as he was only 27 years old and wanted to live so much. No, they left no chances for him, inflicting 13 gunshot wounds and multiple hematomas on his body…
“They did it deliberately so that he can never speak and never take part in court hearings. They put pressure on my son’s friends to prevent them from coming to the court and speaking the truth.”
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