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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible --but unconfirmed-- surrender of suspect.

Now Confirmed

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good thing they are broadcasting which hospital they are bringing him too... surely no one will try to kill him.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised he was taken alive.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me too.

and conscious no less.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really surprised he's not dead. Yet.

Now, we must wait and see how this disturbed young man is taken care of at the hospital, what city and county he will be arraigned and charged in? What trailer load of charges will be filed, and most important, will he say why he and his brother did this and what involvement, if any, some of these so called "Private For Hire" mercinaries (yes you members of Craft International) were doing amongst the spectators and runners at the time these two allegedly set their plan into action? Will media ever ask real questions? Not stupid questions and interruptions from Alex Jones' disinfo trained morons?

For the innocent men, women, and children of the Greater Boston area whom have been affected, maybe justice will prevail.

The spectale is far from over...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Boston Bombs: The Return of the LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose)

by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com
19 April 2013 @ 10pmET

The question for many will be how these two managed to carry out a
mass-killing bombing --despite being under the nose of the FBI since
2011, when they interviewed the elder brother.


Following that interview, (at the request of Russian security services)
did Tamerlan ease off on his radicalism and thus fall off the FBI radar?

The opposite, in fact.

In late 2011, he travelled to southern Russia and stayed for six months,
returning in mid-2012 to Boston.

You might imagine that on his return, the FBI would be all over him,
because there would be a strong likelihood that he underwent some
training and indoctrination while abroad. This overseas travel scenario
has played out before - in the case of the alleged London 7/7 bombers.

You might imagine that the FBI maybe checked his YouTube "likes" -
which in the second half of 2012 continued to feature radical views.

You might even imagine that in the wake of his Russia trip he would be
on a local Boston counter-terrorism top twenty list of potential attackers.

Finally, your imagination might envisage that on Tuesday, when the FBI
got a detailed description that matched Tamerlan in testimony from the
double amputee victim of the bombings, and were told by the victim that
Tamerlan had dropped a bag which exploded --that the FBI would then
have zeroed in on video footage of him by late Tuesday/early Wednesday.

And would have checked the video image against their Top Twenty list
and then proceeded to immediately arrest him at his known address.

But no such thing happened.

Nor did the FBI release video. They stalled and recounted tales of how
it takes a long time to review footage; and that they were looking for a
broad panoply of "persons of interest." But not looking for a known
terrorism threat who had recently been to Russia for six months.

Eventually, they released some conspicuously poor-quality video. The
agency would later release sharp images, but initially, the grainy photos
were too ambiguous to enable identification - but ominous enough to
surely spook the hapless brothers.

Finally, via new internet images, the man the FBI could or would not
identify --was quickly named.

The rabbits, had already run. Because they were given room to run.

And the hounds were released.

The result: Tamerlan --the key individual in this attack-- is dead.

And dead men tell no tales about their recent adventures.


The brother's mother has scorned the idea that her son could have
carried out an attack while under FBI watch. The father says that his
sons "were framed."

Perhaps "framed" is the wrong word here.

Russia has some interests in common with the USA. Among these
common interests is both countries use of "terrorism" as a social
conditioning mechanism.

But you can't have the domestic theater of War on Terror....

....without some useful-idiot "terrorists" to oblige the drama.

That applied also at the time of 9/11. When some said that US agencies
stood aside and LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose).

Others said that 9/11 was way to complex to just LIHOP (Let It Happen On
Purpose) and that more realistically they MIHOP (Made It Happen On Purpose).

But the Boston Op was not complex. It was simplicity incarnate.

So in this case, maybe "Framed" is the wrong word.

Perhaps "Groomed" works better.

Boston 2013: The Return of the LIHOP.

The truly hard questions about the Boston bombings are only beginning.


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FBI interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
Boston bombing suspect years ago


7:20 PM, Apr 19, 2013

CBS News correspondent John Miller reports it is likely Russia asked to have the elder Tsarnaev vetted because of suspected ties to Chechen extremists.

The FBI is likely to have run a background check, running his name through all the relevant databases, including those of other agencies, checking on his communications and all of his overseas travel. Miller reports that culminated in a sit-down interview where they probably asked him a lot of questions about his life, his contacts, his surroundings. All of this was then written in a report and sent it to the requesting government.

This is an issue they've had in the past. They interviewed Carlos Bledsoe in Little Rock, Ark., before he shot up an Army recruiting station in 2009. They were also looking into Major Hasan Nadal before the Fort Hood shootings.

However, the FBI has maintained in those incidents that they took all the steps they were asked to and were allowed to under the law.

Although the FBI initially denied contacting Tsarnaev, the brothers' mother said they had in an interview with Russia Today.

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva said her son got involved in "religious politics" about five years ago, and never told her he was involved in "jihad."

She insisted the FBI "knew what he was doing on Skype" and that they counseled him "every step of the way."

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/255527/158/FBI-Interviewed-Dead-Boston-Bombing-Suspect-Years-Ago

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Fintan"]
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The truly hard questions about the Boston bombings are only beginning.


Eloquent journalism as always Fintan Exclamation cheers
Only the beginning, indeed...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just want to thank Fintan and others for their analysis here. I made a conscious decision to "tune-out" (once I knew family and friends were fine) but have checked in here now and again. It was impossible to avoid all the talk or televisions, but I felt like a bit of a ghost/observer all day. Reactions were predictable, especially once it became another Lethal Weapon or Die Hard Blood&Guts-Porn installment for the masses. Whether one leans towards the mainstream or alternative viewpoints (with BFN taking a refreshing, calm, nuanced view for the record) it seems to just do damage to the psyche. (Think "9/11 Minority Report" for those of you who remember that audio) Made me feel kind of sick and distant from society. There are lots of deeper thoughts I am having about this but it's difficult to form the language and they are very...er..."Paul Levy" to put it one way. I see the movie ended and the good guys have won for now...and yet it all seems so meaningless.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i wrote:
ManAtTheWindow wrote:

Do you have a source for the claim that the fire was started by an incendiary device? Destroying JFK archive material off-camera, as it were, feels like a very significant aspect of this op.

yes
http://rt.com/usa/library-blast-police-boston-914/
http://www.dotnews.com/2013/suspicious-fire-kennedy-library-remains-under-investigation
http://news.yahoo.com/powerful-devices-caused-boston-marathon-blasts-police-004250503--spt.html


Thank you.
There's an interesting choice of words there that I'm intrigued by. We're told that the JFK fire appears to have been started by an incendiary device but not by a bomb. I'd never thought before now that an incendiary device was anything other than a bomb but I suppose there's a case to be made that anything that starts a fire (e.g., a match or a cigarette lighter) is an incendiary device, especially if it's applied to "a particularly strong accelerant" (such as a pool of petrol/gasoline). Fire-starting doesn't really require much in the way of high-tech materials or skill-sets.


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to get some insight into what's really going on.

Me too. Wink

Down with BS.
On with Truth....


Ha ha! Very Happy

True words, though spoken in mild jest.
The other contributors to this site are among some of the best analysts on the Web. My thanks, respect and appreciation go out to all of you.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amy Kilzer - just now on CNN @ 10:55pm:

Quote:
"My sister wrote an article about the family.
The mother believed 9/11 was a government job."

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need fact check confirmation on all of this, but it seems....

A Watertown resident discovers bloodstains when out walking a dog
and another resident pulled back a tarp on the boat to observe a
bloodied person inside. Then calls 911.

The first we know of this is when reporters at the scene hear a fusilade
of about two dozen rounds of automatic gunfire in an continuous stream
--then silence.

So, did anyone actually engage the police?

Or instead, was Dzhokhar prone in the boat --injured?

And was he injured further in that fusilade?

Dzhokhar's medical condition is described as "serious."

But unusually, it will be the FBI and not the hospital
........who will be updating on his medical condition.


http://www.kjct8.com/news/Police-Marathon-bombings-suspect-in-custody/-/163152/19812484/-/otc1oj/-/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/police-go-door-to-door-in-hunt-for-boston-bombing-suspect/

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mother Of Boston Bomb Suspects Believed 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, Facial Customer Says
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/mother-boston-bomb-suspects_n_3118908.html
The mother of the brothers who have been named as the Boston Marathon bomb suspects told a longtime spa customer the Sept. 11 terror attacks were a U.S. government conspiracy to make Americans hate Muslims, said the customer, Alyssa Kilzner.

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, mother of the brothers, told Kilzner she believed the conspiracy theory. "Itís real," Kilzner said Tsarnaeva told her during the facial session. "She said, 'My son knows all about it. You can read on the Internet.'

"I have to say I felt kind of scared and vulnerable when she said this, as I am distinctly American, and was lying practically naked in her living room," Kilzner said.

Tsarnaeva's younger son, Dhzokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, also endorsed a 9/11 conspiracy theory, tweeting last year that it was an "inside job."



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