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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[QUOTE=denton;1060822805]You haven't actually refuted what I said, because I was right. [/QUOTE]

You are right. I didn't prove you a liar, a Doctor and 4 tv broadcasts did. There is no southwest of any fake imagery or orb footage. It is south or west, fiction or truth.

DR. J. ATLASBERG (ph), REPORTER: Hello, Steve.

I'm actually uptown at 86th and Riverside. I can see the World Trade Center from about half the building up to the top. And about five minutes ago, as I was watching the smoke, a small plane -- I did -- it looked like a propeller plane, came in from the west.

And about 20 or 25 stories below the top of the center, disappeared for a second, and then explode behind a water tower, so I couldn't tell whether it hit the building or not. But it was very visible, that a plane had come in at a low altitude and appeared to crash into the World Trade Center.



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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, the blob in Clifton Cloud's altered video IS NOT SEEN flying south of where it appeared out of thin air. I took a picture of a distant plane, and compared to the blob it reveals reality. The black blob was added by whomever Cloud turned his footage over to and supports that no real plane was involved in T2.




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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[QUOTE=l;9845228]In the video above at 12 secs you can CLEARLY see the PLANE come into view top right NOTHING passes between the towers except in your imagination! [/quote]

Yes it does pass between the towers. That fact is visual and acknowledged by wnbc. It's not a plane but an orb. It's your delusion that anything that was supposed be a plane, is a plane. In other words, if Big Macs were in the air you'd call them planes. The orb turned right, then left across the rear of tower 2. Every person (recently) I've shown the footage to agrees that it's not a plane because it's not.

"There you see the plane, BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, and then you see the explosion, UNBELIEVABLE." You're damn right it's unbelievable because a plane cannot go between any two buildings, nor can a floating orb be a plane. They made two statements, one of which was true and the other a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFPB_NTi2cs&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=97&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obt-1d9POXM&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=121&feature=plpp_video

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september122010/911-reflections-ew.php

An independent journalist in Oregon, Ersun Warncke, actually did perform this tedious task and came up with this data:

Out of 2,970 9/11 victims listed, only 446 appear in the Social Security death index. Of those only 249 have a confirmed death certificate on file.

Ersun Warncke Salem-News.com

I did an exhaustive check of the list of victims provided on the CNN website. What I found is that out of 2,970 people listed, only 446 appear in the Social Security death index. Of those only 249 have a confirmed death certificate on file. Of those, not a single one has a valid “last address of record” on file. That is a lot of clerical error, or maybe Simon Shack is not as crazy as it would seem at first glance[2].

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All aircraft produce wake turbulence. Spot the Owl? The wise old bird returns with the truth.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NBC ORB was a fraction of the width of tower 1.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able capture the orb as it peeked out and then a quick edit occurs to well after the explosion. These guys did not see a plane and were confused as to how the south tower exploded.

There are countless videos with the impact edited out because they weren't going to insert fake plane images into all of them. You can see him pan to the right when the orb caught his eye.




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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The live chopper NBC footage does NOT show the nose of the fake plane coming out the northeast corner of tower 2. Nor does it show a fake plane, but an orb.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most credible eyewitnesses did not see any big plane hit the south tower, because there wasn't one that did.

http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/images/m04.jpg

"And then heard this noise that seemed to come from everywhere but didn't...had no idea what it was and then the south tower just exploded, it just it just, it just blew up. And somebody said that was a plane and I was like, "I was underneath it, I was looking at the tower, I had my camera in my hand, I heard the noise, I never saw the airplane."


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whomever Cloud turned his footage over to added a black blob. Clifton, did not hear nor see a plane. It would have been coming from his left. Clifton, debunks all video fakery shown on 911. Advance to 2:00 for his real-time account. He says it over and over and over and over. He didn't see a plane because there was no plane to see. The blob cannot be seen south of where it magically appeared. He was about a mile east of the towers and slightly north. HE CALLED HIS CO-WORKER.

"I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, no plane hit nothin', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark, cryptically laughs at the end of his description, further proving that he was describing the slow moving orb, and falling short of confirming that it really wasn't a plane. It's no different than Jean Hill saying she saw the secret service shooting back, but falling short of fingering the driver. Of course it didn't belong in the area because it was an unknown flying object and not the boeing 767 it was supposed to be.

Eyewitness on 9/11 Mark Burnback was able to get a good view of the plane that hit the World Trade Center, because he said that the plane was flying very low. He explained to FOX News that the plane had no windows, a blue logo, and did not look like a commercial plane.

Fox NewsCaster: "Mark Burnback, a Fox employee, is on the phone with us. Mark witnessed this... Mark were you close enough to see any markings on the airplane?"

Mark Burnback: "Hi gentlemen. Yeah there was definitely a blue, circular logo on the front of the plane towards the front. It definitely did not look like a commercial plane. I did not see any windows on the side. It was definitely very low...

"Mark, if what you say is true, those could be cargo planes or something like that. You said you did not see any windows on the side?"

Mark Burnback: "I did not see any windows on the side. I saw the plane was flying low. I was probably a block away from the sub-way in Brooklyn and that plane came down very low, and again it was not a normal flight that I have ever seen at an airport. It was a plane with a blue logo on the front and it just looked like it did not belong in this area."

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can clearly see that I took a real picture of a distant plane and it looks real because it is. The black blob in Cloud's video is obviously fake. It's black with no tail section, no wings, no fuselage, nothing but stupid fakery. The light poles render perfect silver with a black blob just west.




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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the only live shot with a plausible flight path that exposed the north face and they screwed it up big time. There are a few theories as to why it happened, but I think the fake image came out faster than they thought, and that's what prompted the fade to black, an attempt to hide the blunder. NO HOLE exists where the fake image came through, proving conclusively that WNYW and Chopper 5 aired and created the black plane hoax.





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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"THEY, THEY BLEW THAT BUILDING UP". "A'INT NOTHING HIT THAT BUILDING, NOTHING HIT THAT BUILDING". "IT BLEW UP JUST LIKE THAT".


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