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duaneh
Joined: 26 Feb 2011 Posts: 154 Location: west, pa, usa
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/24/psychopaths-speech-patterns_n_1028804.html
Psychopaths Share Similar Speech Patterns When Detailing Their Crimes, Study Shows
All psychopaths might not be the same, but they share similar speech patterns when they recount their crimes, new research shows.
Researchers at Cornell University found that psychopaths lack emotion and speak in terms of cause-and-effect when describing their crimes, LiveScience explains.
Psychopaths also tend to focus "their attention on basic needs, such as food, drink and money" rather than social needs, LiveScience reported, such as family or religion. In fact, many psychopaths recounted what they ate the day of their crime during the interview.
Researchers determined the results by using software to analyze the speech patterns of 52 convicted murders -- 14 who qualified as psychopaths -- as they detailed their crimes. All 14 psychopaths shared the same speech qualities, according to the study.
Compared to the 38 convicted murderers in the sample, the psychopaths tended to use words such as "because" or "so that," to imply that their crime was a goal that needed to be achieved, the Deccan Herald points out.
Psychopaths also used more "ums" and "uhs", which researchers say indicate attempts to imply that retelling their crimes is difficult.
The results suggest that psychopaths "operate on a primitive but rational level," researchers wrote in the study.
One researcher recalls how psychopaths make for interesting interview subjects because of their "cunning and manipulative
nature."
"It is unbelievable. ... You can spend two or three hours and come out feeling like you are hypnotized," Michael Woodworth, study co-author and psychology professor specializing in psychopathy, told LiveScience.
Results of the study, "Hungry Like The Wolf: A Word-Pattern Analysis Of The Language Of Psychopaths," were published in the September issue of Legal and Criminological Psychology.
Psychopathy is often confused for other personality disorders. Scientific American reports how psychopathy is determined, and the characteristics of the disorder:
The best-established measure of psychopathy, the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL- , developed by University of British Columbia psychologist Robert D. Hare, requires a standardized interview with subjects and an examination of their file records, such as their criminal and educational histories. Analyses of the PCL-R reveal that it comprises at least three overlapping, but separable, constellations of traits: interpersonal deficits (such as grandiosity, arrogance and deceitfulness), affective deficits (lack of guilt and empathy, for instance), and impulsive and criminal behaviors (including sexual promiscuity and stealing).
Recently, a small study showed that bosses are four times more likely to be psychopaths than the general population. The finding was reported in the book Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work. However, the number of psychopaths among business bosses is still low -- comprising 4 percent of them, in the study -- while 1 percent of the general population have psychopathic tendencies. _________________ formerly known as duane in a previous registration |
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Southpark Fan

Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 583 Location: The Caribbean of Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Interesting program Fintan.
First time I listened to one of your shows.
Great sound quality. _________________ "Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King |
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bri

Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2887 Location: Capacious Creek
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I know, everybody hates Jon Ronson, but I admit this looks interesting.
The book came out mid 2011:
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A Journey Through the Madness Industry
In this madcap journey (on sale May 12, 2011), a bestselling journalist investigates psychopaths and the industry of doctors, scientists, and everyone else who studies them.
The Psychopath Test is a fascinating journey through the minds of madness. Jon Ronson's exploration of a potential hoax being played on the world's top neurologists takes him, unexpectedly, into the heart of the madness industry. An influential psychologist who is convinced that many important CEOs and politicians are, in fact, psychopaths teaches Ronson how to spot these high-flying individuals by looking out for little telltale verbal and nonverbal clues. And so Ronson, armed with his new psychopath-spotting abilities, enters the corridors of power. He spends time with a death-squad leader institutionalized for mortgage fraud in Coxsackie, New York; a legendary CEO whose psychopathy has been speculated about in the press; and a patient in an asylum for the criminally insane who insists he's sane and certainly not a psychopath.
Ronson not only solves the mystery of the hoax but also discovers, disturbingly, that sometimes the personalities at the helm of the madness industry are, with their drives and obsessions, as mad in their own way as those they study. And that relatively ordinary people are, more and more, defined by their maddest edges.
Follow Jon Ronson on Twitter: @JonRonson
www.jonronson.com/
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1408 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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i'm surprised no one has dissected Romney's speech patterns here yet. does anyone have any expertise in NLM or some psychology to make observations about candidates running for office, particularly the way this Romney guy talks in front of audiences?
what i have noticed - easily:
* frequent false-starts (kind of a stutter) at beginnings of sentences (this i assume pretends to make him believable since he's speaking extemporaneously...)
* use of the phrases and memes (which they all do)
* pretending to come up with ideas (agenda) with no pre-determined strategy (ie, freeing cuba, making puerto rico the next state, and well, y'know we'll work out the details of these genius concepts, provided he's elected, otherwise, apparently it's not important)
* claiming we need a new marketing of american democracy around the world since the cola companies are so good at it (interesting... how different is our approach to that since US & corporate ownership and continued attempts on the world-stage already?)
someone please do an examination or point to one, if possible. i find this romney character extremely study-worthy.
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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lyspy
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 97
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:45 am Post subject: |
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A fantastic further teasing out of this debate...
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Southpark Fan

Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 583 Location: The Caribbean of Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Excellent and enlightening Lyspy!
But what to do...
Test/pre-screen those up for these types of positions to filter them and their personality flaw out?
Or is it enough to know, and 'sabotage' their efforts? _________________ "Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King |
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1408 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, good post lyspy. Passed it on.
Hopefully, this corporate psychopathy doesn't become another easy-out for the shitheads, tho... by way of mental health diagnosis and rehabs instead of jail. then again, they're not really getting jail either. as of now, they just get fined if even that.
but a lot of angles were covered that are helpful to remember... not advising that all people should discard their meds, but i agree happy pills are not the answer to becoming adjusted to life circumstances...
and that we are all in this together. the me-generation is having a hard time trying to teach responsibility to their kids, and so on.
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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ManAtTheWindow

Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 156 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| RedMahna wrote: | Hopefully, this corporate psychopathy doesn't become another easy-out for the shitheads, tho... by way of mental health diagnosis and rehabs instead of jail.
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That's a very real danger, Red, and it's certainly something that the PPs will seize upon if they get the chance.
I look forward to watching the video tomorrow but I'm uneasy about your reference to meds. I'll probably come back to this after I've seen the film but meds are certainly useless for treating the psychopathic condition itself.
On a happier note, I suppose they're a good earner for Big Pharma so at least someone benefits in these times of austerity...
| RedMahna wrote: | | Yeah, good post lyspy. |
Seconded. Cheers, dude.  _________________ "Lucidity is what you know, reality is what you perceive and illusion is what you believe." - Peter, here on BFN |
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Peter

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 2214 Location: The Canadian shield
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:04 am Post subject: creative alliances |
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Coyote narrated the answer. Rather than verticalizing your intentions and efforts (hierarchical submission and the acceptance of your "relative" inferiority) you horizontalize your intention and efforts such that the synergy that results from the combinations and permutations of the various potentials becomes much greater than any power held or wielded by the psychopaths. _________________ The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos. |
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Peter

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 2214 Location: The Canadian shield
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: fight back-to-back |
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It is important to note that psychopaths rely on manipulation to inveigle their "victims" into doing their bidding. If alliances are formed then they can overcome and supercede the individual enticements.
In the case of demagogues and corporate leaders, it requires either secrecy or alternate career paths to escape scrutiny and reaction depending on the instance. _________________ The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos. |
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ManAtTheWindow

Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 156 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Two good points there, Peter.
I think that another key is to be able to recognise the wolves in sheep's clothing for what they are. So much of their power to manipulate depends upon their ability to disguise themselves as something other than what they really are.
Actually, I'm giving a bad rap to the wolf there, given that man's best friend is a close relative and can respond positively to warmth and affection.
A crocodile is a much better comparison. The safest way to deal with crocodiles is not to get involved with them at all. If that isn't always possible then the next best thing is to keep as far away from them as possible.
They will never sit up and beg and they will never walk to heel, they will never run and fetch and they must never be allowed to play in the back yard with your children.
When we learn to see psychopaths in similar terms, having first recognised them for what they are, we will have taken a giant step towards disempowering them and their Psychopathic Control Grid system forever. _________________ "Lucidity is what you know, reality is what you perceive and illusion is what you believe." - Peter, here on BFN |
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Fintan Site Admin

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6105
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1408 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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ok, so basically by posting these two links Fintan, are you suggesting in any way that the so-called NWO has been co-opted (or better yet, took a detour) by way of more leftist propaganda?
because that's what i think you mean, and that is what i think has happened to bring everyone on board - meaning those who are adamantly against big corps, big money, NWO, etc.
we know the "one percent" never loses b/c they play both sides of the field (in war and peace)... and so the progressives and OWS types are now the new group to be fooled en masse. so what's new? it actually isn't very.
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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bri

Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2887 Location: Capacious Creek
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Always got to be aware of those Judo mind tricks.
Outside of his typical gay-bashing and pro-US propaganda,
Yuri makes some good points here.
(...and at least now we know where Glenn Beck stole his schtick...)
Start at about 1:15
Were you referring to this comment red?:
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Rachel Zimmermann April 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm
FINANCIAL TERRORISM EXPOSED?????????
Shame on you John Perkins PRICES ARE ABOVE 100 UK POUNDS
For his talks Perkins is asking many thousands of dollars (ONE SPEECH IS ABOUT $ 5.000).
EVERYONE WHO WILL GO LISTEN TO HIS TALK…. DO NOT FORGET THE FOLLOWING: John Perkins is responsible for a lot of misery, pain and even the death of many people, indirectly also the murder – by the Rockefeller´s CIA – of President Roldos of Ecuador. In Ecuador Perkins possibly will be acussed in the near future for what he did to this beautiful country.
Working for people like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, Perkins earned a lot of money for destroying many Third World countries.
After his destructive work he thinks it´s enough to confesses in his book Economic Hitman (he forgot to tell the names of those who made him a Hitman). And once again he is earning a lot of money. His books sell many hundreds of thousands and with the help and permission of the same multinationals he worked for in the past, he landed on the bestseller list of the New York Times.
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What do you guys think?
Always been on the fence about Perkins,
never read either of his books.
Does he really feel bad about all of this?
Just another psycho working for the benefit of the psychos he exposes?
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1408 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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hi bri.
no that wasn't exactly what i was referring to, but in any case, we will always have people with their fingers in the pie... whether they're telling us the right is wrong or the left is wrong, or pick any meme that's going around. behind it all is always some benevolent donation, board members, marketing (psychological team), etc.
i must be having one of those pessimistic days again...
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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