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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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occupyindianapo RT @0xAli:
State security is sending it's officers, with silenced guns
to the #tahrir square to assassinate activists/figures.

#Tahrir #Egypt #Hitlist

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow the Money:

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Complete Egypt’s revolution

NOV 22, 2011 21:25 EST - David Rohde

For decades, the Egyptian military has operated an economy within an economy in Egypt. With the tacit support of the United States, the armed forces own and operate a sprawling network of for-profit businesses.

The military runs factories that manufacture televisions, bottled water and other consumer goods. Its companies obtain public land at discounted prices. And it pays no taxes and discloses little to civilian officials
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Within weeks of Hosni Mubarak’s fall in February, experts predicted that the Egyptian military would refuse to relinquish its vast economic holdings or its privileged position in society.

“Protecting its businesses from scrutiny and accountability is a red line the military will draw,” Robert Springborg, an expert on Egypt’s military at the Naval Postgraduate School, told The New York Times. “And that means there can be no meaningful civilian oversight.”

Protesters who are crossing that red line this week should be applauded, not oppressed. Egypt’s tumultuous revolution should be completed.

In increasingly brazen fashion, Egypt’s military has tried to usurp the revolt that toppled Mubarak nine months ago and is transforming the Middle East. The protests this week are a legitimate response to those moves.

In a welcome concession on Tuesday, Egypt’s 76-year-old army chief, Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, offered in a televised speech to hand over power to a civilian president by next July. Protesters are right, though, to react with skepticism. The military has botched a transition it initially said would last six months.


In a blistering report issued on Monday, Amnesty International accused the country’s military of suppressing dissent as brutally as the Mubarak regime.

The report assailed its violent response to this week’s protests, which have left 36 people dead and more than 1250 wounded.

The aims and aspirations of the January 25 revolution have been crushed,” Philip Luther, the group’s Middle East and North Africa director, said in statement. “The brutal and heavy-handed response to protests in the last few days bears all the hallmarks of the Mubarak era.

The ruling military council has refused to revoke the country’s Mubarak-era “emergency law,” which allows arrest without trial and sends civilians in military courts. As of August, roughly 12,000 Egyptian civilians had been tried in “grossly unfair” military courts, according to Amnesty. At least 13 have been sentenced to death. At the same time, the courts have “ruthlessly suppressed” civilians who criticize military rule, including journalists, bloggers and striking workers.....

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2011/11/23/complete-egypt%E2%80%99s-revolution/

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are attacking the field hospitals again........ #tahrir
5 minutes ago

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this must be scary for the engineers of the initial rising because it now looks like we have an uncontrolled uprising,time to start pounding shoe leather and manouvre their men to line up for the takeover. by the way didnt there used to be a pro global rapist flavoured(or anti gadaffi ,just get the job done) topic on libya on this forum?, havent looked in in a while, might been dreamin it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nonplacebo wrote:

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by the way didnt there used to be a pro global rapist flavoured (or anti gadaffi, just get the job done) topic on libya on this forum?



I just wet myself, for the first time in years.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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by the way didnt there used to be a pro global rapist flavoured
(or anti gadaffi, just get the job done) topic on libya on this forum?


ATM: I just wet myself, for the first time in years.

Me too. Laughing
Laughable inherent racism and black/white vision in that comment.

The CIA Fakes and left gatekeepers are insisting that Iran, Tunisia,
Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain etc. etc. are all imperialist coups. In this racist
view, the people's of these Arab nations are dumb fucks who don't even
own their own revolution.

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this must be scary for the engineers of the initial rising
because it now looks like we have an uncontrolled uprising

Twisted logic here? : the first Egyptian rising was a staged one -
and for some reason the second revolt is a real one??

The simpler explanation: the US-backed Egyptian army willingly tossed
Mubarak to the wolves to buy time - and that time is now up.

But the gatekeepers simplistic black/white worldview goes like this:

Hillary Clinton - she imperialist running dog.
Psychodaffi - he noble hero and innocent victim.

In Reality:

China and Russia didn't oppose the NATO mission. Why? Because nobody
wanted a four year long faction battle in Libya - and everybody wanted the
oil to keep flowing (global economy in enough shit already, without that).

So the backroom deal was: NATO goes in to make it short and sharp.
And in return for NATO agreeing not to screw around with Russian and
Chinese strategic interests in Libya - they step aside.

In any event, if Psychodaffi hadn't been so dumb as to attack Benghazi,
there wouldn't have been any way to justify moving against him.

The idiot dug his own grave. Good riddance.

I just pray Clinton meets the same fate one day. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update on the "gas" story above
and the sheer scale of casualties:


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Field hospitals set up around the square were overrun with casualties after riot police closed in on tens of thousands of people inside the square. Doctors said there appeared to have been more casualties over the past five days than during most of January, when several thousand people were injured.

Injuries were mostly from gas being fired by troops, who briefly negotiated a truce with demonstrators before violence re-erupted. The Guardian saw two women convulsing violently in a makeshift clinic set up in a church courtyard after inhaling gas. Doctors are reporting large numbers of patients who have reacted severely to the gas being fired. "I have not seen a reaction like this," said one doctor in a triage centre inside a church on a street near Tahrir Square. "We are sending a lot of people to hospital. We can't just treat them here."

In one of the field hospitals a doctor was killed, according to her colleagues and websites. Dr Rania Fouad is believed to have died after inhaling gas.


A more detailed report here:

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Evidence Mounts of Toxic Gas Use In Tahrir Square
http://t.co/EZg7nyOn

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so has the libya topic dissapeared or was i dreaming?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, goodness gracious moi.

People being shot at.

Shit happens. I have more experience of being SHOT AT than you, sir.

Get over it.

Nothing will change.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i beg to differ, the only constant is change,oh and as well as your incessant sniping.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the topic i was looking for( the peoples revolution, libya yemen etc) seems to have been subsumed by the "tarhir square..." heading.havent been in in a while was just wondering like ,ok.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egyptian security forces shooting at head-level
yesterday on Mohammed Mahmoud street:

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