Why they wouldn't fly planes into the World Trade Center

moylan · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 104

Hey, folks, and welcome to this edition of Moylan's Great No-Plane Challenge.
We have a real humdinger for you in this edition, so step right up!

Your challenge is:

1. Identify an 'anomaly' in film footage or photo of the planes you deny, and give us your best guess on what it means.

2. Corroborate the anomaly from other angles. If you have used photographic evidence in 1., you must provide video footage where possible, and vice versa.

3. Last but not least, give us your best explanation as to the absence of this anomaly where it fails to appear.

That's your challenge, folks! Good luck!

Lord Carpainter · Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 265 Location: Canada

Why should the same video anomaly appear in more than one video?

moylan · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 104

And we have the first victim of Moylan's Great No-Plane Challenge! Close, but no dice.

Anyone want to answer LC's question, for 50?

Lord Carpainter · Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 265 Location: Canada

I'm not taking any challenge until I get my questions answered about why this type of challenge is even necessary. Once again: Why should the same anomaly appear in numerous fake videos from different angles?

moylan · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 104

The question is why you assume any evidence is fake in advance of proving it. Or why one anomaly should make the evidence 'fake'. Or why it's legitimate to speculate about what compressed digital video 'really' shows, when the amount of information present in such footage compromises any such attempt.

Ok, here's a revision of the initial challenge. Produce a high-definition source video of the alleged anomaly. This 'whatzit' spotting activity using low-quality video sounds a little too much like Webfairy to me.

Why should the anomaly appear in more than one angle? A better question is why an anomaly appears at any angle at all.

ogrady · Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 2

Give up, LC.

The TV would never show us fake footage or spread an untruth. After all the media isn't in control of all TV transmissions.
Planes CAN just glide through buildings while the building heals itself and have nothing even break off.
Planes can fly at 500 miles per hour at low altitude.
Plane videos often show wings disappearing and reappearing.
Planes can often take different flight paths to the same event.
Aluminum can easily pierce steel and concrete.
Plane crashes never leave identifiable wreckage than the FAA reconstructs.
A frame-by-frame of Naudet footage clearly shows an airplane.
Newton's 3rd law is a crock.
Despite evidence to the contrary (see Morgan Reynolds) thousands upon thousands of people saw planes melt into buildings.
Flights 11 and 77 were scheduled.
People died, therefore they must have been in planes.
People who think that exposing the fact that the mass media is the control arm of the government have serious mental problems.
Questioning what you were shown on TV is INSANE.

I give up and join the herd mind. Are you with me?

moylan · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 104

Another disinfo agent is born! Keep them coming!

Lord Carpainter · Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 265 Location: Canada

Lord Carpainter · Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 265 Location: Canada

7forever · Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 301

A fake plane was added for south tower explosion

This is so simple it's stupid. The plane does not pass through the open skyline before it comes into view which proves a fake plane was added.

Advance this clip to 4:00 or before and see the plane created out of thin air from behind the building just right of the open and unobstructed skyline.
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddGXuy0ep7g"]Unseen 911 Footage Finally Released By FBI, DOJ - YouTube[/url]

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 The FBI and the Department of Justice have released ten new videos relating to the events of 9/11, three years after a freedom of information act request for the footage was submitted.

7forever · Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 301

The cropped horizontal shot shown on TV travels west to east. The wide angle I posted and the divebomb footage are south to north.

7forever · Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 301

[quote=BA142;12091316]How would they have time to do that live??[/quote]

Almost all live footage was zoomed in before impact and zoomed out afterward. This was done because no large plane or likely even a missile struck tower 2. Two live shots exist (that I know of) and both show a ball traveling west to east before impact. At six seconds look at the top right corner and notice the ball. No plane but a ufo moving slowly toward wtc 2.

WTC MISSILE STRIKE ON 911: EYE WITNESS SAW "A SMALL PLANE" - YouTube

7forever · Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 301

2 fake planes 4 seconds before impact

The dive bomb footage was south to north which is (I think) the official flight path. The true flight path was west to east and consistent with the (BALL) ufo being the small plane that many described, including Matt Lauer. A flying saucer circled the tower and bumped into, IMO, the east side of tower 2. The same plane cannot be in different locations at the same time with the nose facing east in one and north in the other. This case is closed in regards to the official story being anything but bullshit.

7forever · Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 301

[quote=Book;260117]This is an old intelligence trick called "Poisoning the well", the intentional promotion of lies to blend with an embarrassing truth to discredit it. Shills are trying to conceal real news stories and connections to the attacks on the World Trade Towers. So, we get hoax stories poured onto the net by propagandists, to be used by the media to attack the credibility of anyone who dares doubt the official story...
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You have me pegged wrong. I did the work on Greer which is a no-brainer. The flying saucer is some pop culture humor added to an apparent truth. There was one witness who literally laughed when describing the object, small plane, ball or whatever you wanna call it. The ball or small plane was an unidentified flying object that caused tower 2 to explode.

7forever · Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 301

The planes are facing different directions and the angles are only slightly different, not enough to change the impossible. The orb caused the explosion in the live footage with nothing that can debunk that visual fact, that is supported by witnesses saying small plane and one guy laughing at whatever it was, a ufo.

The dive bomb shows it going south to north exactly. The other side is east and somewhat south. It might have taken out the southeast corner but that doesn't work because the fake plane had to disappear into the building, hence, south to north.