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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Economics of 9/11 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Bullionshit! Reply with quote

Missing Gold Cache of Gold Found at WTC - Two truckloads retrieved through a tunnel in rubble

Gold Depositories Buried Beneath Trade Center Rubble
By Stewart Stogel
CNSNews.com Correspondent
September 12, 2001

New York (CNSNews.com) - As New Yorkers try to recover from the attack on the World Trade Center, financial markets have yet to feel the full impact of the terrorist action.

Far beneath the shattered buildings, screaming ambulances and dazed New Yorkers on the streets of Manhattan are two of the worlds largest gold depositories.

One belongs to the US Federal Reserve Bank; another to a group of financial institutions.

The Feds gold reserve is housed 100 ft. beneath its headquarters, only blocks from the World Trade Center, whose twin towers collapsed into mammoth heaps of rubble after two hijacked jetliners were crashed into the buildings.

The Fed boasts that its gold depository spans the length of two football fields and contains more gold than any other vault on earth.

Its deposits are believed to surpass the value of the legendary Fort Knox gold reserves in the mid-1980s.

While the Fed declines to release the total value of gold on deposit, it is unofficially estimated at more than $25 billion. But the gold stored in that facility does not belong to the U.S.; its owned by foreign nations, including Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

At the World Trade Center itself is another, smaller gold storage facility owned by a group of commercial banks.

When Islamic radicals bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, the New York Police Department and FBI at one point thought that the attack might have been a raid on the gold depository.

The explosion eight years ago was close to the vault, which withstood the explosion. Its not known how much gold was kept in the World Trade Center vaults in 1993, but its believed as much as $1 billion in Kuwaiti gold eight years ago.

Its also believed that the amount gold currently buried beneath the debris of the World Trade Center today far exceeds the 1993 levels. Kuwaiti officials in New York declined to discuss the matter.


Missing Gold
A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared

This image is found on the PBS.org website companion for the television documentary America Rebuilds under the section Uncovering Property. The page, entitled A Treasure in Silver and Gold, describes the vault as two levels of 3,000 square feet each. See the source for the full-sized image. The page credits images to Leslie E. Robertson and Associates.
The basement of 4 World Trade Center housed vaults used to store gold and silver bullion. Published articles about precious metals recovered from the World Trade Center ruins in the aftermath of the attack mention less than $300 million worth of gold. All such reports appear to refer to a removal operation conducted in late October of 2001. On Nov. 1, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani announced that "more than $230 million" worth of gold and silver bars that had been stored in a bomb-proof vault had been recovered. A New York Times article contained:

Two Brinks trucks were at ground zero on Wednesday to start hauling away the $200 million in gold and silver that the Bank of Nova Scotia had stored in a vault under the trade center ... A team of 30 firefighters and police officers are helping to move the metals, a task that can be measured practically down to the flake but that has been rounded off at 379,036 ounces of gold and 29,942,619 ounces of silver .. 1

Reports describing the contents of the vaults before the attack suggest that nearly $1 billion in precious metals was stored in the vaults. A figure of $650 million in a National Real Estate Investor article published after the attack is apparently based on pre-attack reports.

Unknown to most people at the time, $650 million in gold and silver was being kept in a special vault four floors beneath Four World Trade Center. 2

An article in the TimesOnline gives the following rundown of precious metals that were being stored in the WTC vault belonging to Comex. 3

Comex metals trading - 3,800 gold bars weighing 12 tonnes and worth more than $100 million
Comex clients - 800,000 ounces of gold with a value of about $220 million
Comex clients - 102 million ounces of silver, worth $430 million
Bank of Nova Scotia - $200 million of gold
The TimesOnline article is not clear as to whether the $200 million in gold reported by the Bank of Nova Scotia was part of the $220 million in gold held by Comex for clients. If so, the total is $750 million; otherwise $950 million.

There appear to be no reports of precious metals discovered between November of 2001 and the completion of excavation several months later. Assuming that the above reports described the value of precious metals in the vaulst before the attack, and that the $230 million mentioned by Giuliani represented the approxmiate value of metals recovered, it would seem that at least the better part of a billion dollars worth of precious metals went missing. (It is not plausible, of course, that whatever destroyed the towers vaporized gold and silver, which are dense, inert metals that are extremely unlikely to participate in chemical reactions with other materials.)

An article in The Sierra Times suggests that gold was recovered from two trucks in a tunnel under 5 World Trade Center, giving rise to suspicions that the trucks were being used to remove the gold from the vaults before the South Tower fell. 4 However, this report may have been based on an erroneous reading of other reports that describe the removal of crushed vehicles from a tunnel under 5 WTC in order to gain access to the vaults under 4 WTC to remove their contents. 5

Why is there this huge discrepancy between the value of gold and silver reported recovered, and the value reported to have been stored in the vaults? There are a number of possible explanations, from outright theft using the attack as cover, to insurance fraud. Until there is a genuine investigation that probes all the relevant facts and circumstances surrounding the attack, we can only speculate.

And someone actually said to me once - "How could they have planned a massive heist of gold during a surprise terrorist attack?" And I had to agree. :roll:

"No matter what happens, ever... there's ALWAYS at least one reason. And the top reason is ALWAYS money."
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Defense Department Cannot Account For 25% Of Funds $2.3 Trillion

On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.

"In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.

Rumsfeld promised change but the next day Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

Such rotten luck for Rummy - his "War on Waste" was all forgotten about because of Sept. 11th. But then, so was the missing $2.3 trillion. Another incredibly coincidental, lucky break.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Economics 911 -- US Corporate Multi-National Support for &am Reply with quote

Economics 911 -- US Corporate Multi-National Support for "Al-Qaeda"

Well worth hearing. ck out Dave Emory on
http://www.spitfirelist.com. go to For the Record.
WHOOPS: It's HERE: http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX

(I "captured" the Real Media and then convert to MP3.)

He's almost LIHOP, but not really even that.

I disagree with his casual condemnation of "controlled demolition conspiracy theorists" on his reasoning that the conspiracy goes much deeper. Dave Emory's detailed descriptions of the depth and complexity does not in my opinion rule out MIHOP --- the very writings of PNAC and of Brzezinski, plus Northwoods, etc. --- the same "style" of geo-political and economic information Emory covers --- strongly indicates motive, means, will, M.O. (pattern), and opportunity for MIHOP.

The obvious "standdown" (at the Pentagon at very least) could be possibly attributed to the fact of P-Tech Inc, which supplies $millions in software to NORAD, the FBI itself, the FAA, the U.S. Treasury, the Department of Defense, the IRS, and the White House (Republican investment interests), was a company partly owned by Yasin Al-Qadi a known Islamo-fascist with Nazi and Al-Qaeda ties. See, they did trick us --- but from the inside, they booby-trapped the software --- in ways our Intell wants to hide -- is the *hints* Emory drops.

But Sept 11 could be just as credibly seen as an intentional standdown, based on the "social control" goals of PNAC, of the Tri-Laterals, the stated intentions of Brzezinski and his transnational capitalist group, which is equal to or similar to "the Underground Reich" Emory describes.

We must further concede at least the possibility that, the existence of a "terrorism" which supports "western" (NATO) foreign policy doesnt necessarily end with that foreign policy.


Similarly, the fact of a corporate global financial conspiracy that includes Islamo-fascists tied to fascist Investors in the US (including within the Bush admin --- like Norquist the architect of Iraqs economy), this in no way contradicts the idea of blowing up New York to spread fascism. I can't deal with Emory's CHOMSKY-ESQUE DENIAL system.

In addition, I spoke to a retired fireman in politics who knows firemen and he confirmed what everyone knows who has SEEN photos of videos of the North Tower or South Tower EXPLODING -- that there was a controlled demo, and he said that every NYC fireman also knows that. No matter how Islamo-fascist Al-Qaeda really, really is ... the odds that they could have done that TO us are remote to them doing it WITH US.

Despite these shortcomings, I would not have included this if this were not compelling. (more analysis and comparison below)

Op Green Quest, and what it exposed.
Info on Republican links to Islamic Fundamentalism, Muslim Brotherhood, and all sub groups including Al-Qaeda based on their religious stance on FREE MARKET CAPITALISM (Corporate Lassez-Faire Monopoly Capitalism protected by state power but not restricted per se by State power). Al-Qaeda = Contras in some ways. Financial interests not exactly the same as "CIA", certainly overlapping.

"Even as the US is at War with the Muslim Brotherhood, Institutional Investment Connections in the US aligned with Muslim Brotherhood."

Basically, he cites shared economic ideology with Bushco and US Global Corp Interests leading to support for Islamo-fascism, while ironically soldiers are fighting and killing and dying to destroy it.

Yet Emory admits, we are really INSTALLING the M.B. in Iraq and elsewhere. We are NOT killing M.B. We are killing civilians, while claiming to kill Al-Qaeda, maybe supporting one faction over another. (It seems to take great skill for Emory to argue so close to the bone of complicity, exposing evidence of complicity, while denying complicity.)

Emory agrees that *mass murder of civilians IS the point* in Iraq and Lebanon, but his primary reason is the effect on oil prices, based on statements by Al-Qaeda and by some western financial interests and obvious Bush interests. He thinks that Bush and Bin Laden are *helping* each other, even if they don't talk, perhaps through an "unspoken understanding". (I doubt he has seen that Zawahiri videos are distributed by Intellcenter in Colorado ... thanks be to Fintan.)

I have long said, Saddam was WONDERFUL when he was killing Liberals. He didn't turn "bad" until he became Nationalist and instituted social reforms. (This partly comes from the "class analysis" perspective I learned from Michael Parenti. Maybe I need to re-phrase the question to him in his language: how might "Sept 11 as inside job" serve class interests in the US and globally, especially in the goal of driving western societies back to Third Worldism, a goal you have described for decades. If the "security state" War on Terror model serves "class interests", which it surely does, how was that merely a *coincidental* opportunity for the elites?) Scratch that, I keep getting little reminders that these Leftgatekeepers are truly so intelligent and well-read about conspiracy, they cannot possibly be so stupid they are unable to come to these conclusions.

I have joked, right wing fundamentalist religious regimes rising in USA and mirrored in the Middle East. What's the prob?

Love for "Al-Qaeda" and for Shiite Fundamentalism.
The reason Bush was complaining about the NYT is they exposed Green Quest and Republican investment ties to Islamic terror, along with Norquist (and Rove) support for Islamic Institute. Norquist's Islamic friends owned that P-tech company that provided Defense software. Norquist SET UP the Islamic Institute as a support mech for Bush.

These complex details about fascism make Emory's complex theories sound MORE CREDIBLE than straight MIHOP or LIHOP. It's like Nazi Germany, except instead of Roosevelt fighting for "democracy" against the Fascists, Bush is at One with Fascists. I can see why "Loose Change" may seem "shallow" to Emory, but not what WE have been discussing ... G8, Intelligence, etc., which runs parallel to Emory.

Emory ridicules the idea that Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda is merely "an extension of the CIA". He says "that was a long time ago", ignoring the Senate Kosovo Report and several newspaper reports which cite US-Al-Qaeda collaboration in the late 90's and at least through the summer of 2001.

Maybe it's not *that simple*. (Benefit of the doubt, attempted.)
I cannot state 100% whether "Ray McGovernment" and Mel Goodman are totally "in the loop" with the entire Al-Qaeda/CIA op, or dull "party line" prophets of "reforming" the CIA, OR in a more sinister vein, as PR frontmen for "incompetence theory".

But I suspect the worst, and not due to just personal paranoia, not without REASON.
For instance, Ray McGovernment's performance in ineptly "attacking" Rumsfeld in that press conference, and Mel Goodman's suggestion that the problem with the 911 Commission is that criminal Scowcroft wasn't running it ( www.question911.com McKinney's LIHOP hearings), that really gave them up in a RETCHINGLY obvious manner. Whether the Al-Qaeda Project IS truly 100% within the CIA, and not really independent at all, these guys strongly seem PART of the psyop coverup.

We've used "CIA" as a metaphor for "invisible hands of Intelligence" and black ops. Emory helps make those "invisible hands" more visible by compiling this data. Emory's "Underground Reich" may be nothing more than a more credible "Illuminati" for anti-Fascists. So even if we "recklessly" Smile dismiss Emory's adminitions against "conspiracy theory", Emory more clearly illustrates the network of WHO MIHOPed us.

Emory goes off of obvious similarities to Historical info on "CIA milleau" support for Hitler while US military fighting Hitler. To this point, navigate Spitfire and look up Paul Manning. He was assistant to Edward R. Murrow at CBS. Manning uncovered the Martin Bormann group which outsourced Nazis and capital from Nazi Germany worldwide, while maintaining control via hidden forms of stock ownership, with the help of US and even French industrialists, and others. Manning's work was *too hot* for CBS to handle --- he published a book, "Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile", and apparently Manning's son was killed either in revenge and/or an attempt to stop "daddy".

I think it is WELL worth reading the level of sourced detail provided by Emory on these matters, even if ultimately it's MORE "orgy of evidence". It's like the level of excruciating detail Hopsicker provides, but without all the "breezy" and "irrelevant" writing and speaking. Looking at this a few days removed, I can see why Emory and Hopsicker are buddies.

(With appropriate skepticism about the Amanda Keller story, I still believe that what Hopsicker compiled on Wally Hilliard was worthwhile. He paints a picture of Huffman and his other Hilliard firms as stereotypical CIA proprietary fronts ... complete with narco-trafficking. It illuminates that Atta and friends were not "mere rogues" but connected to an Intelligence-Covert network including Yeslam Binladen, Jeb Bush, Jack Abramoff, Jerry Falwell, possibly Adnan Khashoggi (Iran-Contra, Ollie North), and others. The BCCI crowd. Other credible reports have Atta being funded for some student-exchange by a foundation connected to Rockefeller, et al.) (I got cached copy of German-English transl. MHTML file)

I still think the Standdown and Explosions were no accident, and were clearly meant to advance fascism, regardless who the Islamic-Fascists REALLY ARE --- partly independent or fully embedded.

Emory argues that Al-Qaeda IS a threat. Emory insists that WE ARE at war with the Islamo-Fascists --- they ARE really bad guys.

OK, no doubt. Bush is less bad than living under an Al-Qaeda regime. So far, anyhow.

But if they are actually de facto SUPPORTED by Bushco fascists, to beneficially increase each others' power while simultaneously jacking oil prices and helping Bush's friends rob the world, then Emory does not explain how a military war conducted thru the auspices of the United States and NATO could solve the Islamo-fascist problem any more than a War with Nazi Germany conducted through the military apparatus of the "underground Reich" could solve the Nazi problem. It couldn't and didn't ... even it was somewhat of a setback for them.

True, Hitler himself and all his excesses did not take over America or Europe completely. We did not have global concentration camps (yet) for Leftists and other anti-fascists, nor full-blown gas chambers and Eugenics programs. Yet they've gotten away with mass murders in Third World countries that were just as horrible if not as "efficient" as the Nazi methods, which were less blatant, more responsive to public outrage, more based on scientific application of terror and desperate need, and less systemic mass murder compared to Nazi Germany.

So the Underground Reich has been different in tone from a full-out Nazi takeover, and almost assuredly, less bad.

How that translates to a justification for US troops in Iraq or a fake "hunt for Bin Laden", I cannot imagine, unless he means that destroying Al-Qaeda via the US military run by some Globalists is an unavoidable aspect of keeping it from getting worse faster

But the war gives MORE power to the Fascist Globalists.


JUST STOP FUNDING AL-QAEDA and JUST STOP FUNDING OTHER WAHABBI-NAZIS, and the problem withers. Crack down on US criminals funding them, instead of having DOJ and DHS block investigations like Green Quest. If anything, FUND LIBERAL GROUPS.

He probably means that even in a parallel universe in the absence of US fascists supporting them, these Wahabbi-Fascists would still be dangerous on their own, and resistance would still be necessary. OK, fine, that would be true in Emory-land. (still good detailed info)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more info on
Financial Ties to Al-Qaeda in US ruling class
Economic Relations to Sept 11

The CIA (precursors), the Dulles Bros, Wall Street firms, and Nazis formed a joint partnership on hundreds of German and American corporations, and other corporations in France, Spain, and later in Latin America. They co-founded Saudi Arabia, and put King Ibn Saud in charge of it. They created a country and gave it to him. Saud was essentially an Arab-Nazi. A better way to say that is that they created a shell corporation called Aramco, and handed it to Saud to run on their behalf. Saudi Arabia IS a major conduit for terrorist funding, and Al-Qaeda, as is Pakistan.

The term "Islamo-fascist" is not completely baseless. Both "countries" are essentially subsidiaries of the Nazis, CIA, and Wall Street, big money conduits to the Republican party (and Dems if they have to). Both the White House and these Wahabbi regimes are rightwing extremists.

Dulles was the boss of both President Bush's grandfather Prescott, his father George Sr., and he was partner with Bush's great-grandfather, George Walker.

I'm not describing anything more bizarre than an "old boy's network" ... of Nazis ... including Mueller, Bormann, and others. The Bormann Org (link below) still controls and manipulates the global financial capital investment networks and industry, and is very wealthy, tied in with other major firms in the US and elsewhere.

Islamic Supreme Council of America
FBI Raids Pro-Republicans 03/25/2002 The Guardian
Funds under Terror Probe Flowed from Offshore 03/22/2002

or go to WFMU archives

Rightwing and reactionary [fascist] elements within the US establishment [while rhetorically condemning rightwing Islamo-fascism] have long helped to support hardline Wahabist Islamo-fascists even in bloody coups [Indonesia 1963, Saud 1944, Egypt, now Iraq], and worked to damage peaceful, tolerant Islam, because they prefer hardline religious groups for economic and power relations.

Wahabbis believe in "justified" brutality and terrorism against innocent people, reactionary fascist politics, and right wing free market capitalism. They often use religion for justification.

The global capital establishment (currently represented by the Bush regime) believes in "justified" brutality and terrorism against innocent people, reactionary fascist politics, and right wing free market capitalism. They also use religion for justification, amongst "freelance" talking heads, but they also more psychologically subtle and more digestible forms of marketing --- like flying planes into skyscrapers.

It's a match made in heaven!!!


"It was not until Operation Green Quest, a joint task force headed by U.S. Customs which sought to disrupt terrorist financing, picked up the scent of the SAAR Network that a raid occurred. In March, 2002, Green Quest, in a victory for Americans everywhere, raided the SAAR Network in 15 locations in the largest terrorist financial bust in U.S. history. . . ."

Accused terrorist financier Yasin Al-Qadi is one of the main investors in Ptech.


"Furthermore, the FBI was aware that Ptech, the Boston-area computer software firm, had millions of dollars in sensitive government contracts with several government agencies, including the FBI itself, the FAA, the U.S. Treasury, the Department of Defense, the IRS, and the White House, proving a visible and viable threat to national security.

the President of Ptech allegedly told a subordinate not to worry because Yaqub Mirza, who was on the board of directors of the company and was himself a target of a terrorist financing raid in March 2002, had contacts high within the FBI.

FBI ignored the repeated requests of concerned employees at Ptech.

After repeated meetings with increasingly higher-ranking FBI officials where the employees beseeched the agency to look into the company, the bureau did nothing, despite knowing that Qadi was a primary financier of Ptech."

the milieu of the 3/20-targeted SAAR network significantly overlaps the GOPs ethnic outreach organization and the Bush administration.

That fact may well explain the FBIs and CIAs hostile interest in the investigators of Operation Green Quest. The investigators who were so harassed included Rita Katz,

"The CIA was investigating me and the SAAR investigators from Green Quest and Customs. The CIA and the FBI investigated everyone who had anything to do with the SAAR investigation. White vans and SUVs with dark windows appeared near all the homes of the SAAR investigators. All agents, some of whom were very experienced with surveillance, knew they were being followed. So was I. I felt that I was being followed everywhere and watched at home, in the supermarket, on the way to work . . . and for what? . . ." (Terrorist Hunter by "Anonymous" [Rita Katz]

Green Quest investigators from the Department of Homeland Security charge that the FBI is deliberately sabotaging their investigations. "The FBI-Justice move, pushed by DOJ criminal Division chief Michael Chertoff and Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson,

(Operation Green Quest was either disbanded or moved to DHS, NOW under Michael Chertoff)

Addendum: BCCI, a terrorist "bank" created in Pakistan by the CIA, Richard Helms,
(similar to Nugen-Hand bank in Indonesia, used to fund Operation Phoenix and heroin smuggling)
(thanks for the John Judge "Para-Politics" mp3) sound "breaks up", some words missing ...

Abu Nidal -- 42 accounts, $10's of millions
Islamic Jihad
Al-Qaeda related financers
Adnan Khashoggi - Saudi Arms dealer
Ollie North - and other people close to Bush
Robert Gates - CIA
CIA itself and the DIA
Medellin Cartel
Jimmy Carter Center - received $8M in grants
Andrew Young - wants to be CIA director
First American Bank in DC
Clark Clifford - Democrat "greybeard" and 1st American top official
Robert Altman - former Pres of 1st American
Independence Bank in California
1st American Currency
Centrust Savings
American Southern Insurance
someone in the Falklands war
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read Ruppert's report before but here's the horse's mouth

On Sept 13th, The San Francisco Chronicle reports that a massive trade of United Airline (and related, insurance) stocks had taken place on the three days before the attack. (I can no longer locate this article online; but the following source goes into the trading in some detail, discussing banking interests closely connected to the CIA): http://www.copvcia.com/stories/oct_2001/krongard.html

This was followed up by Reuters reports, (9-20-1)

Chicago traders on Wednesday cited unusual activity in airline options up to a month before attacks on U.S. landmarks, and German bankers reported brisk activity in reinsurer Munich Re shares, adding to speculation that those behind the attacks tried to profit from their acts.
By Laura Jacobs and Thomas Atkins

and (9-22-1)

"Bundesbank President Ernst Welteke said that in addition to strange movements in airline and insurance shares there were signs of suspicious dealings in gold and oil around the time of the September 11 attacks.
``There is lots of speculation and rumors at the moment so we have to be careful. But...that there are ever clearer signs that there were activities on international financial markets which must have been carried out with the necessary expert knowledge,'' Welteke said during a break in an EU finance ministers' meeting.

`With the oil price we have seen before the attacks a fundamentally inexplicable rise in the price, which could mean that people have bought oil contracts which were then sold at a higher price,'' he said.
Gold markets also saw movements ``which need explaining.''
Welteke said the first evidence of unusual price movements emerged last Thursday, two days after the attacks.

in addition, Wayne Madsen (i know) reported:
... a secretive investment firm called Potomac Capital, set up as a CIA proprietary in 1976 by then-CIA Director George H. W. Bush as a means to launder large amounts of cash for classified operations.
Potomac Capital was used to finance an airline called ULTRAIR, which allegedly bought weapons and shipped them to the Afghan mujaheddin ...

Financial ties between Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia, and American banks do not end with the Texas payments. A former chief of Mossad confided that Israeli intelligence was well aware that Al Qaeda funded its activities through the top six U.S. banks, including Nation's Bank (now Bank of America). ... Osama bin Laden has had an interest in some of the same Isle of Man trusts used by the Bushes and Enron.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Warren Buffet+Henry Kissinger+AIG { Mitre Corporation}= 911 Reply with quote

Warren Buffet+Henry Kissinger + AIG { Mitre Corporation} = 911

The International Institute of Nonviolence
By: Rev. Jermano
Things appear to be adding up. Did you know Warren Buffet guarantees that the US will suffer from a Nuclear Attack? http://www.awitness.org/journal/warr...terrorism.html

Nuclear Attack a virtual certainty- "Investment guru Warren Buffett offered a bleak prediction for the nation's national security, saying a terrorist attack on American soil is "virtually a certainty." Envy and dislike of the United States have fueled rage against the country even as the ability to build a nuclear device has spread, Buffett said Sunday at the final day of Berkshire Hathaway Inc.'s annual meeting."
This brings to mind why would he say such a thing?

So where was Warren Buffett the morning of 9/11 and what was he doing?
Mr. Buffett was reportedly at his home in Omaha, Nebraska watching TV when he heard about the terrorist attacks. He was getting ready to host his "last annual golf charity event" which just happened to be at the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters located at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha. Offutt AFB is, coincidentally, where President G. W. Bush flew to on Air Force One later in the day for "safety". This early golf charity event hosted by Mr. Buffett was to include celebrities, professional athletes, and a small group of business leaders in which one of these business leaders became a very lucky person.

This very lucky person was Ann Tatlock, the CEO of Fiduciary Trust Co. International. Now what made Mrs. Tatlock such a lucky person for being invited to this charity event that morning? Mrs. Tatlock not only works in the World Trade Center, but her offices were right where Flight 175 crashed into the WTC 2. http://www.rense.com/Killtown.htm
In March of 2002 financial speculator Warren Buffett predicted that the use of nuclear weapons by terrorists was '"inevitable."'

President George W. Bush went to Offutt AFB later in the 9/11/01 day. President GWB left Barksdale AFB in Shreveport, Louisiana at 1:48 Central Daylight Time, arriving at Offutt AFB in the next hour.
Fiduciary Trust is yet another investment-banking firm. Like J.P. Morgan and Lazard Freres before it, Fiduciary Trust wants to serve big money or an exclusive elite. It's "for institutions and wealthy clients." Five months prior to 9/11/01, Fiduciary Trust was bought by Franklin Resources of San Mateo, California for $825 million.

Fiduciary Trust employed 645 people on five floors on or above the 90th in the WTC's South Tower. 87 of those employees were killed due to the "'9/11'" destruction.
Fiduciary Trust's Chairman and CEO, Anne Tatlock, 62, was gone from her headquarters on "'9/11.'" http://www.democraticunderground.com...D60/27145.html
The February 1, 2002 San Francisco Business Times reported: "On the morning of Sept. 11, Tatlock herself had just arrived with a small group of business leaders at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha for a charity event hosted by Warren Buffett. She then heard the news of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center's north tower."

Did you know ole Warren owns Mitre Corporation http://www.gnn.tv/threads/16827/Nasa..._Demonstration
Its the very corporation that appears to be the place where they actually pulled off this attack that has been going on for sometime now.
Because the attacks involved systems used by the FAA, NORAD, and the U.S. Air Force, the conspirators would have needed super user access to the command and control centers of these three separate organizations.

Super user means the most privileged user on a computerized data system. The super user has complete access to all files on the system. For the previously mentioned agencies, and virtually all other U.S. defense and intelligence organizations, there is one such possible super user: a little-known private not-for-profit organization, based in Bedford, Mass., known as MITRE Corp. MITRE also has a headquarters in McLean, Va., on a campus it shares with Northrop Grumman.

The MITRE Corp. is a major defense contracting organization headed by the former Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), Dr. James Rodney Schlesinger. Schlesinger, who was reportedly made DCI at the request of Henry Kissinger in 1973, later served as Secretary of Defense. Ironically, Carl Max Hammond, Jr. was a fact researcher and analyst for Mitre Corp. Mitre is owned by Warren Buffett. Hammond was on flight 175..that struck WTC 2. (?) Hammond could have found out and warned Warren Buffett. Why didn't anyone warn Carl? Well, call me old fashioned, but I don't believe it's wise to let "Carl" live if he had advance warning and was NOT in Govt.
Carl Max Hammond's obituary claims he worked at MIT not MITRE. A convenient TYPO.

In addition, Mitre Corp has a "contract" of actually finding locations to dump all the toxic waste that the US Army Corps of Engineers dredge for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for nearly 10 years. As Fitzgerald's SDNY offices were negotiating with Ali..his attorney's were working with and have legal jurisdiction and constant daily oversight of the Port Authority CONTRACTS WITH MITRE!
Buffett's company Aramark, ran a concession on the top floor of the WTC. So how could Buffett have found out? Several ways. He could have been tipped because his Berkshire Hathaway http://www.memes.org/fitzgerald-has-...se-prosecute-p

The recent news about AIG, Maurice Greenberg, his two sons and
Warren Buffett indicates that the inside attacks of 9-11-1 are a huge
accounting fraud - a mega-Enron - of the U.S. insurance industry.
Initially, the insurance industry had to pay several billion $$ in
damages. However, 9-11-1 has changed the landscape of insurance risk in
such a way that premiums went into a steep hike, and today the U.S.
insurance industry is the major beneficiary of 9-11-1 to the tune of
over $13 billion increase (in 2004) for AIG alone (AIG alone thus
achieved record revenues in 2004 of $100 billion according to
preliminary figures).

Greenberg Sr. owns nearly 2% but through offshore companies
controls about another 12% of the stock of AIG.
The connection with Warren Buffett is all the more suspicious in
light of the substantiated indication of CIA money laundering through a
bank partly owned by Berkshire Hathaway, Wells Fargo Bank, and the
strange ongoings at the Offutt Air Base on 9-11-1 where Buffett met
with President George W. Bush.
Maurice Hank Greenberg, the president and chief executive officer
of American International Group (AIG), a multi-billion dollar New
York-based insurance company , is no run-of-the-mill insurance

Since taking over the Shanghai and New York-based insurance
business of Cornelius Vander Starr in 1968, Greenberg has emerged as
one of the most powerful behind-the-scenes political fixers in the
Anglo-American Establishment. He is vice chairman of the New York
Council on Foreign Relations. He is a member of the Board of Counselors
of the Washington, D. C.-based Center for Strategic and International
Studies (CSIS), which serves, on occasion, as Wall Streets private
sector equivalent of the CIAs Directorate of Operations. [Note:
Philip Manuel, the investigator, is a member of the Financial Crimes
Task Force of the CSIS, see at

Greenberg is also the oldest and largest paying client of Henry
Kissingers consulting firm Kissinger, Associates. Greenberg hired Kissinger as his chief international trouble-shooter in 1982, and has
been plowing millions of dollars a year into Kissingers coffers ever
"The Kissinger connection has brought Greenberg an inside track on
lucrative insurance and banking deals with both Peking and Moscow. In
Chinas financial hub, Shanghai, Greenbergs AIG is the only foreign =20
company with Chinese government approval to sell insurance policies to
the citys 13 million native Chinese.
AIG has managed an astounding thing: they have had written for
themselves parts of U.S. federal tax laws that gave them tax exemptions
(Philadelphia Inquirer as quoted above). AIG won a special provision
in the Tax Reform Act of 1986 exempting certain of its operations from
a crackdown on foreign tax shelters. AIG as the prime beneficiary of a
section in the Tax Reform Act that exempted AIG and other large
insurers from taxes on some of their offshore operations, saving them
millions of dollars. More than 50% of their business is outside the
USA, including offshore jurisdictions.

As to the Americans involved, one must remember what Senators John
Kerry and Hank Brown found in A Report to the Committee on Foreign
Relations United States Senate (December 1992, 102d Congress 2d
Session Senate Print 102-140, at
On January 6, 1995, John Crudele of the New York Post published =20
a column which called attention to a secret financial deal involving
Coral Reinsurance on Bermuda, the Arkansas Development and Finance
Authority, a project founded at the time by Arkansas state governor
William J. Clinton (ADFA) and Maurice Greenbergs American
International Group (AIG).

The story was only out for a few hours when
Swaney received a call from a stranger who told Swaney he had been
conducting his own investigation of Coral Insurance and AIG and was
surprised to learn that the connections led to people then in the White
House. When Swaney asked the stranger to identify himself, he declined
to do so, for fear of retaliation. The Ozark Gazette (see at
Things just seem to become clearer each and everyday, on who did 911.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Warren Buffet+Henry Kissinger+AIG { Mitre Corporation}= Reply with quote

Hw00d wrote:
Warren Buffet+Henry Kissinger + AIG { Mitre Corporation} = 911

Aside from a couple of names,
99% disinformation.
Almost puked readin' that, thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya know ya love it...quit pukin....

prove the disinfo please....can see your gonna be a PIA

I can back it up...but you need to

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I admit I knee-jerked when
I saw rense/killtown in the same link.
Will take another look.
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