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Fintan
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok that's a confirmation.
Second person was an accomplice.


Talk of him being a "person of interest"
is ass-covering for legal reasons.

Unverified: The second suspect is a white male, in his 50s says FDL

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Arizona Shooting Suspect's Record
Showed Minor Offenses Since 2007


Published January 08, 2011

A preliminary review of Jared Lee Loughner's criminal record reveals a 2007 arrest for possessing drug paraphernalia and two other minor infractions.

Records obtained from the Pima County, Ariz., crimes database show that Jared Lee Loughner, believed to be the man responsible for Saturday's mass shooting in Tucson, which wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and ended in the death of federal judge John M. Roll as well as at least four others, was arrested one day before his 19th birthday in 2007.

It appears as if Loughner's misdemeanor drug charge was initially dismissed by Pima County's senior justice of the peace, Judge Josť Luis Castillo, Jr. The records suggest that Loughner paid a $20 fee and completed a court-ordered program for drug offenders.

In September, three years after his arrest, Loughner asked the court to set aside a supposed judgment against him. But Castillo denied the request, ruling that since the diversion program was completed and the case dismissed in 2007 there was no conviction verdict to set aside.

It isn't clear why Loughner made the request.

There is no immediate record available showing that Loughner had legal representation either in 2007 or last September.

According to information from Beresky & Fish law firm in Phoenix, which handles similar cases, it appears as if Loughner's dismissal was a routine matter for the court. "Generally speaking, individuals with no previous criminal record who have been charged with personal possession of an amount that is less than the state's threshold amount for that specific drug are looking at the best-case scenario in terms of a drug sentence -- most likely a drug court diversion program or a deferred sentencing arrangement that allows them to avoid jail and conviction if completed. Provided the drug in question isn't methamphetamine -- a best-case scenario for someone convicted for meth possession would be probation instead of jail."

The court records do not detail what drug Loughner possessed.

Other reports obtained by Fox News show that Loughner was cited for running a stop sign in 2007, three months after his drug arrest.

Another record shows a 2008 arrest for whatís described as a "local charge" in Marana, Ariz., 20 miles northwest of Tucson. The non-criminal charge was dismissed.

Fox Business Network's Peter Barnes and John Gallagher contributed to this report.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very sad.
Thanks Fintan for giving a sane overview.

Who knows where the 'accomplice' story
will lead. If he is indeed in his 50's, sounds
more like a 'handler'.
Yet much evidence shows this fucker simply lost his marbles.
Why?

If the media is going to ask why,
they should at least ask a well thought out and researched why.



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Giffords had history with Palin, Tea Party


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/08/giffords-had-history-with-palin-tea-party/


Here's some great commentary
from a praying, conservative babyboomer.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot

Babyboomer

This is an AMERICAN tragedy and ANY of you blaming either SIDE are just as bad as the SCUMBAG who did the shooting! WE ARE AMERICANS, WE ARE ONE with single minds and that's the BEST government there has EVER been or ever will be! We disagree with each other from time to time. Hell, my husband and children don't always agree with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But that doesn't make us murderers like this SCUMBAG!

I am a conservative and I DO NOT believe that ANY true American from either side instigated this horrible act! For God's sake people a CHILD was murdered! This was an act of a deranged idiot no matter what his politics are! Stop your political CRAP and start praying for the people injured and the families of those who lost their lives; especially that precious child!




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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do these events on the pentegram calendar, check it out goro Adachi's website.
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raw (as opposed to 'cooked'?) video footage of the AFTERmath? Seems that someone surely would have recorded the actual events in real time with a cell phone camera.......

Interesting that the 'shooter' is still alive and in custody,,,,,let's hope nothing happens to him before he can be brought to trial and cross examined....


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alleged Shooter's Friends
Say He Was Quiet Loner


Sunday, 09 Jan 2011, 8:34 AM CST

"Really quiet kid,anti-social....
He hung out with all the... I kinda want to say...
unpopular kids, always wore black, piercings, dyed their hair"


-Christian Dickson, who knew Loughner



Loughner isn't talking:

Quote:
The suspect was not talking and had invoked his right against self-incrimination, said Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.

Details on the weapon:

Quote:
the Glock used in the shootings was purchased legally, but did not have the details when or where it was bought. The extended magazine used in the shooting was likely purchased separately and at a different time, the source said. The official said such a magazine does not automatically come with a weapons purchase and it would be extremely rare for them to be sold together in one purchase.

The FBI is now involved:

Quote:
At the direction of President Barack Obama, FBI Director Robert
Mueller
was headed to Arizona to help coordinate the investigation.

Further personal background on Loughner:

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-- Loughner dropped out of high school in 2006, after his junior year, said Tamara Crawley, a spokeswoman for the Marana United School District in suburban Tucson.

-- In 2008, he tried to enlist in the U.S. Army. The Army rejected him, and privacy laws keep the military from disclosing the reason, the service said in a statement to CNN.

-- He enrolled at Aztec Middle College, a partnership between Tucson schools and Pima Community College that helps high school dropouts transition to community colleges, the community college President Sylvia Lee told CNN.

-- He took classes at the college from 2005 until October 2010, but withdrew after five contacts with police "for classroom and library disruptions" at two campuses between February and September, the school said.

-- Loughner was suspended after authorities found a YouTube video in which he called the school "illegal according to the U.S. Constitution, and makes other claims," a college statement said. He quit during an October 4 meeting with his parents and school administrators, and a follow-up letter warned that to return, he had to present a doctor's note stating that "his presence at the College does not present a danger to himself or others."

-- "Good-bye friends," read a Saturday morning posting on Loughner's MySpace page, just hours before the shooting. "Dear friends ... Please don't be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven't talked to one person who is literate."

-- A December 30 posting read, "Dear Reader ... I'm searching. Today! With every concern, my shot is now ready for aim. The hunt, a mighty thought of mine."


And there is more on the second man:

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Police in Tucson have released a surveillance camera photo of a man who was seen at the location where US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was gravely wounded and six other people were killed in a shooting rampage.

Clarence Dupnik, sheriff of Pima County, told a news conference on Saturday that authorities were searching for a second individual who was a "person of interest" in the investigation.

The picture shows a white male with dark hair, dressed in blue jeans and a dark blue jacket, who is approximately 40 to 50 years old.

The man is apparently walking into a store with his hands in his pockets.

Quote:
The other individual that authorities are looking for
was seen "in proximity" to the suspect.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homeland Security are pinning this
on the shooter's possible links to the
American Renaissance magazine and
foundation, led by Jared Taylor:


Rep. Giffords was Jewish, by the way.

HSA describe their suspicion of "possible links".
Anything's possible. No evidence presented so far.....

Quote:
American Renaissance Denies DHS Charges,
Any Affiliation With Shooter


by Patrick Summers | January 09, 2011

A DHS memo obtained by Fox News suggested strong suspicion linking Jared Loughner, the man accused in the Tucson shooting on Saturday, to what it called an "anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and anti-semitic" group known as American Renaissance.

In an effort to counter those charges, the head of the organization responded directly to Fox News' James Rosen on Sunday.

Jared Taylor called DHS' views "scurrilous" and took especial issue with the reference to his group being "anti-ZOG."

"That is complete nonsense," he said. "I have absolutely no idea what DHS is talking about. We have never used the term 'ZOG.' We have never thought in those terms. If this is the level of research we are getting from DHS, then Heaven help us."

Taylor, who earned a BA in philosophy from Yale in 1973 and a master's degree in international economics from the prestigious Institut d'…tudes Politiques de Paris ("Paris Institute of Political Studies," in English) in 1978, says he had never heard of Loughner until yesterday. Taylor says he checked his organization's records going back twenty years and Loughner never subscribed to AmRen's publications.

Taylor says he also has no indication that Loughner ever attended any of AmRen's events, all of which have been held on the East Coast.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/09/american-renaissance-denies-dhs-charges-any-affiliation-shooter

American Renaissance founder Jared Taylor is a
controversial figure whose public engagements
draw protests:

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See Also:
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/educational/watch/v429296wnW7JZBb


Here's a "web page of interest" : Wink

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http://www.amren.com/conference/2011/index.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sarah Palin's pot-shot at Tucson shooting
victim Gabrielle Giffords backfires


Herald Sun - January 10, 2011 12:01AM

SHOT Democrat Gabrielle Giffords expressed her fears at being a "target" in rifle crosshairs on a map released by prominent Republican Sarah Palin before last year's mid-term US elections.

Conservative Palin urged voters to target liberals' seats.

Ms Giffords said: "She depicted the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. When people do that, they have to realise that there are consequences."

Ms Palin yesterday offered her "sincere condolences" to the families of Ms Giffords and the other victims.

There were reports last night that the map had been removed from some Palin websites.

Here's the offending map from the Sarah Palin PAC:

Quote:

It doesn't look good.
But just a second....
Here's a similar map from the Democrats:

Quote:


Truth is that cross-hairs, bulls-eyes
and talk of 'enemy territory' is the usual
work-a-day political hype on all sides.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh boy... loner story again. another kook who is or should be on meds. whatever. okeedokee. conveniently disappears to re-group mentally. conveniently has twitter friends from his past. maybe, maybe not. who knows. and he gets his hands on an awesome gun, to boot!

and this amren dude in the interview... he glances to the left prior to answering questions.

part of me thinks, if we only connect all the dots in all the stories, we'll have all the answers...

the other part of me thinks given any amount of people and issues, you will always have a bunch of idiots who normaly have no factual reason for doing what they do. they just do it simply b/c they are confused and have nothing better to do but feel important in the grand scheme of things.

typical human behavior since the beginning of time. who knows why the fuck we do anything other than ordinary eating, drinking, breathing, pissing, shitting, fucking, and sleeping. perhaps monkey see, monkey do? you see your neighbor has something, so you figure you must find a means to get what he has too? yeah, that's it in a nutshell... be it money, power, glory, sex, sympathy, whatever.

damn those monkeys for evolving to the point of "rational" life-forms.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what is suspicious to me? Congress is taking a week off to "reflect" or something. What kind of mischief might some of those bastards be up to in this interval?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know what is suspicious to me? Congress is taking a week off to "reflect" or something. What kind of mischief might some of those bastards be up to in this interval?


i would laugh if some famous rock star or other celebrity dies this week and we'd be diverted from this impromptu vacation for congress, hehehe. maybe brittnay spears will get raped by sasquach or something.

upon edit - ATM's avatar will most definitely get raped!!! news at eleven...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Jared Loughner
on AboveTopSecret:


Loughner was anti-NASA and btw :Giffords' husband is an astronaut.......

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erad3 on Above Top Secret posted:

Is one of your favorite toys a remote control car?

If NASA creates a mars rover that communicates from mars then the signal reaches from the distance of mars.
The signal doesnít reach from the distance of mars.
Nonetheless, NASA creates a mars rover that doesnít communicate from mars.

If NASA communication signals reaches mars then NASA communication signal from the mars rover.
The NASA communication signals reaches mars
Therefore, NASA communication signals from the mars rover.

If the pictures are from mars then the mars rover is on mars.
The Mars rover is not on mars.
Therefore, the pictures are not from mars.

NASA creates a remote control rover that is impossible to reach mars.
NASA fakes the situation they plan with the mars rover.
Therefore, NASA creates a remote control rover thatís impossible to reach mars and fakes the situation they plan with the mars rover.

NASA sends the the Mars Rover to mars with communication or NASA fakes the situation.
NASA didnít send the Mars Rover to mars with communication.
Therefore, NASA fakes the situation.

If the mars rover lands on mars with communication then NASA sent the Mars Rover to mars.
The mars rover lands on mars with communication.
Therefore, NASA sent the mars rover to mars with communication.

The distance from earth and mars is about 33,926,867.1 miles.
The distance from earth and mars changes.

Think about how NASA sends the mars rover
Think about how NASA is able to communicate from that distance.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread592730/pg1

More Erad3 posts:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread591520/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread593100/pg1#pid9207445
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread590329/pg20#pid9186016
Via
http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/01/assassin-jared-loughner-member-of.html

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