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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: BP Dispersants in times of cholera or a long hot summer... Reply with quote

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/23/gulf-oil-hot-zone/

Report from Gulf Oil ‘Hot Zone’
June 23, 2010 posted by Robert O'Dowd


BP controls access to medical care for Gulf Oil clean-up workers.

(GRAND ISLE, LA) – Thousands of unemployed workers hired by BP for Gulf oil clean-up duties are housed in a tent city on Grand Isle, LA.

According to a report from Anna Hrybyk, Program Manager for the Louisiana Bucket Brigade, a nonprofit environmental health and justice organization, BP requires that all serious medical issues must be sent to the BP EMS.

A West Jefferson Medical Center tent is staffed with qualified physicians and nurses but is restricted by BP to give out ibuprofen and band-aids only.

Anna Hrybyk reported that,” BP does not allow the medical center to keep on hand any antibiotics, antibiotic ointments, IVs, shots, or make any prescriptions even though they have that capability. The nurse on site was extremely upset by these constraints and worried that if these infections are left untreated that staff infections could easily develop. New reports from the WJMC’s tent say that the number of oil spill workers being treated for heat-related illnesses is on the rise; to date there have been 67 workers treated since May 31st.medical center to keep on hand any antibiotics, antibiotic ointments, IVs, shots, or make any prescriptions even though they have that capability. The nurse on site was extremely upset by these constraints and worried that if these infections are left untreated that staff infections could easily develop.”

A copy of Anna Hrybyk report follows:

From the Hot Zone

June 10, 2010

by LABB Program Manager, Anna Hrybyk, MPH

(See: http://labucketbrigade.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/from-the-hot-zone/)

“We were in the hot zone all day today and the fumes were really strong. Now I have a terrible headache,” said an oil spill clean up worker who came to the West Jefferson Medical Center tent inside the BP worker compound in Grand Isle looking for some relief from his headaches. His headache is not unusual according to a new report from the Office of Public Health and reports to LABB’s Oil Spill Crisis Map. His headache is undoubtedly caused by working in the “hot zone,” a term used by workers for the areas of thick heavy oil.

The Louisiana State Office of Public Health released data yesterday from their Oil Spill Health Surveillance program tracking all acute health effects related to the BP Oil Drilling Disaster. The report found here relies on reports from hospital emergency departments, outpatient clinics, physician’s offices and the Louisiana Poison Control Center. From May 30 to June 5, 2010, 71 reports of health complaints related to exposure to pollutants from the oil spill received. Fifty reports came from among workers and 21 from the general population.

Sixty percent of the health complaints from workers stated that they were exposed to chemical dispersants. Seven of those reports came from workers busting oil sheen for two weeks. They stated that they were exposed to fumes from chemical dispersants causing nausea, headaches, burning throat and chest pains. Six out of the seven were hospitalized and an investigation from OPH is pending.

Out of the 71 reports of oil spill related illnesses, 79% of the reported health problems were related to irritation of the respiratory tract including nosebleeds, difficulty breathing and aggravation of existing asthma and respiratory illnesses. There were 26 reports of headaches related to exposure to pollutants from the oil spill.

From June 1st through June 3rd, 17 workers sought treatment at the West Jefferson medical center tent in Grand Isle for headaches, respiratory issues, insect bites, abrasions, and infections. Unfortunately, BP does not allow the medical center to keep on hand any antibiotics, antibiotic ointments, IVs, shots, or make any prescriptions even though they have that capability. The nurse on site was extremely upset by these constraints and worried that if these infections are left untreated that staff infections could easily develop. New reports from the WJMC’s tent say that the number of oil spill workers being treated for heat-related illnesses is on the rise; to date there have been 67 workers treated since May 31st.

Though the West Jefferson Medical Center’s medical treatment tent is a full service medical facility (they could perform surgeries if needed), all serious health issues must be sent to the BP EMS. The WJMC can only give out ibuprofen and band-aids. The WJMC has an Industrial Medicine doctor but he has not been “approved” to staff the site.

So if BP is calling the shots on treatment of exposed workers, will it surprise you to know that the only “official” worker exposure monitoring data that exists is on the BP page? According to BP’s industrial hygiene monitoring program, 21 workers have been exposed to benzene, 305 workers have been exposed to hydrocarbons, and 43 workers have been exposed to butoxethanol. Of course, they contend that the exposure levels to these hazardous cancer-causing toxins has been below OSHA safe standards. BP’s monitoring plan is frighteningly vague. We know they are monitoring workers in three areas: beach clean up, near shore skimming and booming operations, and offshore. We do not know exact coordinates of these sites or the toxic makeup of the oil they are handling.

OSHA only has jurisdiction over workers on shore to three miles out from the shore. All of the workers we encountered in Grand Isle were in Tyvek protective suits but were NOT wearing respirators or gloves. Last week, grassroots groups, including the LABB, from across the Gulf Coast have signed on to a letter requesting the Department of Labor and OSHA to require the use of respirators and to make information on worker health problems publicly available.

LABB’s Oil Spill Crisis Map has been tracking odor complaints and health effects related to the BP Oil disaster since May 1st, 2010. To date the map has received 203 odor reports (i.e., smells like kerosene, burning crayons, burning oil) and 69 health effects reports from Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida. Thirty-eight people have reported headaches and 43 reports detailed experiences of lung tightness, nose and throat irritation as a result of exposure. Other exposure related symptoms reported on the map include nosebleeds, dizziness, nausea and vomiting, chest pains, and burning eyes.

The highest number of odor reports on the map come from the metro New Orleans area. On May 10, 2010, on a very bad petroleum smelling air day, we took a bucket air sample from the front steps of the LA Bucket Brigade office on Canal Street. The sample showed detectable, but low levels of n-Hexane and n-Heptane. Due to our lax policies around chemical safety in this country, not much is known about the long-term effects of exposure to these toxins, however it is known, according to ATSDR that both are neurotoxins that can cause serious damage to the upper respiratory tract if chronically exposed.

I have heard Coast Guard and LDEQ officials compare the risk of exposure as equivalent to what you experience while you are pumping gas at the gas station. Would you want your children playing at the gas station all day in a heat index ranging from 105 and 110 degrees?

More detailed and transparent monitoring of the air, water and personal exposure is needed. We here at the Bucket Brigade know from years of working with communities neighboring hazardous sites, the oil industry and their regulators that the most effective tool in catching “hot spot” samples is empowering residents to capture the sample themselves with the bucket. No other monitoring system will be effective because by the time the samplers have been called in, the wind direction has changed and you can no longer get a good sample of the worst of what people are being exposed to. We are working to get the buckets in the hands of trained residents throughout the Gulf Coast.

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/23/florida-gulf-oil-spill-plans-to-evacuate-tampa-bay-area-are-in-place/

Florida Gulf Oil Spill: Plans to Evacuate Tampa Bay Area Are In Place
June 23, 2010 posted by Robert O'Dowd

Hernando County Political Buzz Examiner

As FEMA and other government agencies prepare for what is now being called the worst oil spill disaster in history, plans to evacuate the Tampa Bay area are in place.

The plans would be announced in the event of a controlled burn of surface oil in the Gulf of Mexico, or if wind or other conditions are expected to take toxic fumes through Tampa Bay.

This practice has been used by the US Forestry service, when fire and smoke threaten the health and well being of people.

The elderly and those with respiratory problems would be more susceptible to health risks, in the event of a controlled burn.

Estimates of the rate of BP’s Deepwater Horizon oil spill have varied. Independent scientists now suggest that the true spill rate, before the riser pipe was cut off in June, was between 20,000 and 50,000 barrels a day.

Since the April 20th explosion, which resulted in the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig, there have been more than a million gallons of chemicals poured into the Gulf of Mexico in efforts to break up the spill. The chemicals have come under scrutiny because of their own toxic nature.

It is not certain if the massive slick will have to be set on fire near Tampa Bay, but the possibility has not been ruled out.

BP has been using controlled burnes as a way to contain the oil spill since the crisis began. Plans to do additional controlled burns around the well site were announced by Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen at a briefing in early June.



By Maryann Tobin

This reprint of Maryann Tobin’s news story has generated high reader interest. It’s obvious that the Gulf oil spill continues to be the leading story in the media today.



Ocean currents likely to carry oil to Atlantic
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry Tony's good for it all! Wink

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/24/bp-reporter-flies-ov.html



http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/06/24/4556103-bp-press-release-theater-flying-higher

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not good news.

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"The more oil we some coming out, the more it tells you
that the whole casing system is deteriorating. The fact that more
oil would be coming out rather than less oil, would suggest that the
construction within the pipe is offering no resistance whatsoever,
and we’re just getting a gusher."



Also Not good news:

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http://www.pnj.com/article/20100623/NEWS01/100623027/1006/RSS01



Also Also not good news:

ROFFS Oil Tracking Shows BP Gulf Oil Spill
Traveling Up Entire East Coast Of Florida


Also...

Not good for BP - which has to pay
out to owners and realtors for lost sales.)

Realtors along gulf lose contracts,
hope as spill halts recovery of fragile market

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mainstream media hat tip to the Internet.

This is the best the NYT can come up with.
Note the admissions they work in....

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Q. Doomsday scenarios described online suggest that the pipe that lines the well is deteriorating, or that there may be other problems with the well that may cause it to fail completely, leaving an utterly uncontrolled gusher that could prove difficult or impossible to control. Is this true?

A. There is a lot of speculation about the condition of the well, but it is not really possible to know what kind of shape it is in. BP suggested that one reason that a procedure called the “top kill” failed was because there may have been damage to the well lining about 1,000 feet down. But no one knows for sure.

What does seem clear is that there is enough concern about not making the situation worse that BP is now pursuing only the containment option at the top of the well. They have abandoned efforts to permanently plug the well from the top because that would build up pressure that might cause damage. The well will be permanently sealed starting from the bottom, using one or both relief wells.

Link


We've maintained all along that if BP truly tried to capture all the flow
in a cap, it would cause exactly the kind of dangerous back-pressure
referred to by the NYT above.

So instead BP said nothing;

installed the deliberately leaky LMRP Cap to minimize back-pressure;

and pretended an intention to close the Cap vents to get full oil capture.

However by now BP aims to improve the volume of oil they are extracting
from the BOP via the choke and kill lines, thus reducing pressures at the
cap and possibly at last allowing a full capture cap.

So they say.

Meanwhile the gush continues.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that will stop it will be the relief wells.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shell oil ex-CEO (i bet he's glad he's an ex)

Is there enough "stuff " at the bottom of the well for the cement to hold on to? he's saying it's 10 -12 inches. I heard somewhere it was 9 inches

either way the pressure and flow rate through that portion is much higher than the flow thru the 22 inch pipe we see at the top. the corresponding wear from the solids is also much higher. the temp is also higher with effects abrasive resistance

i never thought i'd say this, but let's pray for the cement

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a moment of clarity here:

I was skeptical of the man in the above video being the former CEO of Royal Dutch Shell, which is what I assumed when I heard "Shell Oil Co."

However, this is not the case. This man was NOT the CEO of Royal Dutch Shell but rather some other smaller (and unrelated?) company in Texas. His bio says that he served in the Human Resources department of Royal Dutch Shell in Den Hague - a rather far distance from CEO of Royal Dutch Shell!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichaelC wrote:
The only thing that will stop it will be the relief wells.


Nuke it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the petrol is coming from deep on ocean floor,a lot of atmospheric pressure but if old sunk ships have been lifted up from the ocean floor with synthetic or plastic material that can be inflated then why couldn't they have just used a strong plastic to creat a tube to guide the escaping oil to the surface and then into storage tanks ? Sounds a plausible and simpler than the movie star's rube goldberg sucking machine to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Ryals wrote:
I know the petrol is coming from deep on ocean floor,a lot of atmospheric pressure but if old sunk ships have been lifted up from the ocean floor with synthetic or plastic material that can be inflated then why couldn't they have just used a strong plastic to creat a tube to guide the escaping oil to the surface and then into storage tanks ? Sounds a plausible and simpler than the movie star's rube goldberg sucking machine to me.


Sounds good to me, too. Slip a sleeve over the gusher and suck it into a tanker. And then nuke it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: How BP Fooled The World! Reply with quote

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Against Federal Advice Pensacola Beach Opens; Over 400 people sick

BP and Government Misleading Public About Safety Of Florida Beaches

NOAA Finds Several Leaks In Cracks On Gulf Seafloor

Cleanup A PR Stunt That Leaves Layers Of Oil Caked On Gulf Beaches


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3D Model Of Leaks On Gulf Of Mexico Seafloor
Near BP Oil Leak Compiled From Data Collected By
US research vessel The Thomas Jefferson.
Full Story



Full Story


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Keith Olbermann Discusses the DougR Analysis




Gulf Spill : A Dire Analysis

By DougR at The Oil Drum


“All the actions and few tid bits of information all lead to one inescapable conclusion. The well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. Now you have some real data of how BP’s actions are evidence of that, as well as some murky statement from “BP officials” confirming the same.

“To those of us outside the real inside loop, yet still fairly knowledgeable, [the failure of Top Kill] was a major confirmation of what many feared. That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to.

“What does this mean?

“It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot…the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?…the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?…it doesn’t leak so bad, you close the nozzle?…it leaks real bad, same dynamics. It is why they sawed the riser off…or tried to anyway…but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks “down hole”. I’m sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed…because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below.

“Contrary to what most of us would think as logical to stop the oil mess, actually opening up the gushing well and making it gush more became direction BP took after confirming that there was a leak. In fact if you note their actions, that should become clear. They have shifted from stopping or restricting the gusher to opening it up and catching it. This only makes sense if they want to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed…..and that sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kind of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above, all they can do is relieve the pressure on it and the only way to do that right now is to open up the nozzle above and gush more oil into the gulf and hopefully catch it, which they have done, they just neglected to tell us why, gee thanks.

“A down hole leak is dangerous and damaging for several reasons. There will be erosion throughout the entire beat up, beat on and beat down remainder of the “system” including that inaccessible leak. The same erosion I spoke about in the first post is still present and has never stopped, cannot be stopped, is impossible to stop and will always be present in and acting on anything that is left which has crude oil “Product” rushing through it. There are abrasives still present, swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it’s way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?…no one really knows….However now?…there are other problems that a down hole leak will and must produce that will compound this already bad situation.

“This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer’s immense bulk of 450 tons. In fact?…we are beginning to the results of the well’s total integrity beginning to fail due to the undermining being caused by the leaking well bore.

“The first layer of the sea floor in the gulf is mostly lose material of sand and silt. It doesn’t hold up anything and isn’t meant to, what holds the entire subsea system of the Bop in place is the well itself… The well’s piping in comparison is actually very much smaller than the Blow Out Preventer and strong as it may be, it relies on some support from the seabed to function and not literally fall over…and it is now showing signs of doing just that….falling over…

“What is likely to happen now?

“Well…none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact…it’s about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don’t, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.

“Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? …it won’t be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov’t must be well aware too, they just are not telling us.

“All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit…after that, it goes into the realm of “the worst things you can think of” The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out…as I said…all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn’t any “cap dome” or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now?….is the only real chance we have left to stop it all.

“It’s a race now…a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it’s last gasp in a horrific crescendo.

“We are not even 2 months into it, barely half way by even optimistic estimates. The damage done by the leaked oil now is virtually immeasurable already and it will not get better, it can only get worse. No matter how much they can collect, there will still be thousands and thousands of gallons leaking out every minute, every hour of every day. We have 2 months left before the relief wells are even near in position and set up to take a kill shot and that is being optimistic as I said.

“Over the next 2 months the mechanical situation also cannot improve, it can only get worse, getting better is an impossibility. While they may make some gains on collecting the leaked oil, the structural situation cannot heal itself. It will continue to erode and flow out more oil and eventually the inevitable collapse which cannot be stopped will happen. It is only a simple matter of who can “get there first”…us or the well.”

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