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MichaelC



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick up a copy of this weekend's Financial Times(although basically a waste of money) and you will be amazed at how these fuckers are beating the dead horse: "Royals against climate change"!

They just will NOT give it up.

Relentless page after page of the same rot.
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skinters



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just reading through the articles on Piers Weatheraction site,and in particular on the met office.

Quote:
“This is a serious matter, not a game, the Met office
surrender is important because their misleading failed
forecasts have cased unnecessary suffering and loss of
life and would continue to do so if not terminated. The
cold icy winter caused huge economic loss made worse
by the UK and Europe running out of road salt after the
Met Office’s mild winter prognosis – in which some also
died in road accidents as a consequence”, said Piers
Corbyn,


And incredible arrogance with,

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“WeatherAction are the only long-range forecasters
with independent proven skill and we stand ready to fill
the gap in long range forecasts. The Govt, BBC,
Councils and Emergency services need our forecasts but so far Environment Minister Hilary Benn has not
responded to our offer to, eg, produce a summer forecast which can say whether or not the UK will have
another lousy summer with floods.

http://www.weatheraction.com/docs/WANews10No13.pdf

Why they would not want an accurate forecast is any ones guess,although it looks like taking on piers work would be a admittance they were wrong and there is no way they could do that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's how it worked out, and here comes that cold snap:

60% North West England
60% Yorkshire & Humber
60% SW Scotland, Lothian & Borders
60% North East England

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_warnings.html


So can we assume from this then the Met can only produce short range forecasts,let's say a five day forecast ?.

What are the models they are currently using which produce such inaccuracy in concern with their long range forecasts ie for this summer ?.

Or is the reason they have fucked up so much is the blind belief that if the AGW crowd are anything to go by,we are going to have one roasting summer after the other ? .
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What are the models they are currently using which produce such inaccuracy in concern with their long range forecasts ie for this summer ?


I searched the Met website to find an answer to your question skinters, here is what I found:

Quote:

Our forecast methods

Our methods

We use global forecasting models and statistical methods. Seasonal trends affect large geographic areas, so our forecast for the UK is in the context of Europe as a whole.

"More about how we crunch the numbers and calculate our forecasts"


If you click the link inside the quotes it goes to an index page - prophetic or what? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: A model "T" on the highway to hell. Reply with quote

Somehow (a little bird(brain) told me....) I am sure that they use the CO2 forcings from our friends at Hadley and the CRU, GISS etc. in the "global climate models".

Garbage in, garbage out.

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skinters



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Kathy,i found that earlier as well.

I was trying to confirm for myself if the Met had a staunch support of AGW and with this could never support or agree to use piers corbyn's work. It would show admittance to solar activity being a strong indicator of climate,of which if i am right in saying the likes of the IPCC have never pointed to it being a factor.

If the Met wants to make better long term weather predictions,it looks like they are going to need Piers model.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Audio Interview - The Man Who Cracked Weather Reply with quote

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The Beautiful Truth Show - 31st March, 2010

Guest - Astrophysicist, Piers Corbyn - http://weatheraction.com

LISTEN:
Broadband Mp3 Audio
http://FintanDunne.com/audio/BeautifulTruth-10-03-31.mp3
Click to Play or Right-Click to 'Save As' and Download.

Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://FintanDunne.com/audio/BeautifulTruth-10-03-31-dialup.mp3
Click to Play or Right-Click to 'Save As' and Download.

Quote:


http://www.weatheraction.com/docs/WANews10No14.pdf


UK Early Summer Forecast:

Quote:
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Update on Coordinated Action:

Quote:
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Quote:
Follow: http://twitter.com/Piers_Corbyn


Quote:


Motorists rescued from snow
as winter storms batter Britain


Published: 5:26AM BST 31 Mar 2010

Around 300 people - including children on a school bus - have been rescued from cars trapped in snow on the Glenshane Pass near Londonderry, as severe winter storms battered parts of Britain.

Police, mountain rescue and coastguards were drafted in for the operation.

Stranded drivers had initially been taken to Dungiven Leisure Centre near Londonderry, but a blackout meant the site had to be switched to the Roe Leisure Centre in nearby Limavady.

Blizzards, gale force winds and torrential rain have hit Scotland and Northern Ireland, knocking down power lines and wreaking transport havoc.

The Met Office has issued extreme weather warnings for the two regions, forecasting more severe blizzards and severe drifting snow up to 50cm (20in) deep in parts.

During the distinctly un-spring-like conditions, temperatures will remain close to zero through the day.

There could also be snow flurries across high areas of England and Wales, experts said.

Northern Ireland Electricity (NIE) said between 45,000 and 48,000 customers, mainly in the west and the north, have been cut off overnight after widespread damage to its network.

At one point there were 600 individual faults reported, the firm said, with the biggest disruption was in Omagh, Enniskillen, Dungannon, Londonderry, Coleraine and Ballymena.

Poor visibility and strong winds were preventing workers from climbing poles, it added.

A spokesman for NIE said 450 engineers and workers were out helping restore supplies as soon as possible - and blamed the disruption on "unprecedented" weather.

"We have had unprecedented weather conditions, and are working to get people reconnected as soon as possible," he said.

"Our crews are getting back out in the field again, we have 450 staff in the field."

Colin Brown, of the Roads Service, said they expected the weather to get worse throughout the day.

''We are getting geared up for difficult day of rain turning to snow as we progress through the day and into the afternoon and evening.''
Scotland saw around 22,000 homes suffer power cuts on Tuesday, with people North Ayrshire the worst hit, but most properties were reconnected during the day.

People living in north-east Scotland were suffering some of the country's worst weather today, with gale force northerly blizzards whipping up snow drifts. Big cities Glasgow and Edinburgh will see wetter conditions.
Snow ploughs and gritters were out yesterday across the country after cars and lorries became stranded in snow.

Ten lorries were stranded for several hours on the M90 close to Bridge of Earn in Perthshire, and two trucks also got into difficulty on the M8 near Edinburgh creating large tailbacks.

Two men also had a lucky escape after a 50ft tree fell on a car in Edinburgh city centre. The men were treated for shock but were uninjured, police said.

Among the roads closed today were the A68 at Soutra Hill in Lothian and Borders, and the A96 between Huntly and Colpy in Aberdeenshire.
Train services on the East Coast main line were also suspended north of Berwick after two landslips last night.

Network Rail said it was working to re-open the line today, diverting some services via Newcastle and Carlisle and using replacement buses.
Elsewhere, heavy rain led to the River Esk bursting its banks in Musselburgh.

Ferry firm Stena also said its sailings between Belfast and Stranraer were being delayed or cancelled.

Steve Ellison, a forecaster with MeteoGroup, the weather division of the Press Association, said the wintry weather would start to die away tonight and tomorrow, but it would remain unsettled in many parts.

He said: ''There's been quite a lot of snow falling over Scotland, especially over the higher ground. But places like Edinburgh can also expect a covering.

''It's also going to be very windy again.

''A deep low pressure is moving across the UK at the moment, dragging in a lot of cold air from the north.''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/7540107/


Quote:
Schoolgirl dies after coach crash
in ''horrendous'' weather conditions.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/7541380/

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great audio. Now I wanna see that video of him, and "an error occurred."

Sad

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skinters



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah great stuff.

Was grinning at Fintans attempts to get Piers to give us the secret.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't listened to the audio yet Skinters, but to give me a slight heads up before listening later on (at work atm) what secret lol?
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skinters



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah see a gentleman never tells.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The secret issue is:

How the F*** does Piers get those forecasts so damm accurate.
What's the specific solar/lunar/earth interactions in the calculations.

Trade secret, I'm afraid. Laughing Laughing

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