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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject:
this got me thinking about the First Gulf War and the Saving and Loan scandal back in the early 90's. Neil Bush was to testify about the couple of hundred million from the Silverado S&L he gave to a buddy for "investments" the day before his date with congress, we invade Iraq. afterward Pappy declares the S&L scandals have damaged us enough, ended all investigations and had the taxpayers foot the bill
so "crisis" can be a blessing in disguise if you know the game _________________ Birth is the first example of " thinking outside the box"
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: An idea that could work, maybe....
Here's an idea that could work, I'm surprised no one has tried it.
How about first, the upper crust power elite use their political and media influence to generate - then co-opt - an environmental movement, say back in the late 60's, early 70's. Make sure polluters are brought to the fore, and everyone understands the tremendous danger the eco-system is in, as far as establishing mindset. Record some evil sound bytes from a few callous corporatists who are known for their disregard for public safety, and the stage is set, but use national media manipulation to cultivate extremism on both sides. Make sure those "in charge" of this environmental movement are as whacky to the Right as their counterparts are to Middle America.
Use this environmental extremism to make it increasingly unpopular to actually extract the massive oil reserves in Alaska (a strategically-brilliant land grab that for a paltry $7.2 mil that was mercilessly ridiculed in 1867 as "Seward's Folly, and who's vast reserves became obvious at Prudhoe Bay in 1968 - right about the time this environmental movement would come to the fore, lead by The Environmental President, Milhouse Nixon... a man we would come to totally love and trust).
The difficulties in appeasing this movement (I dunno, maybe we could make up crazy shit like "it's causing stressed herds of caribou to seek expensive group therapy" or some such tripe) would thereby derail any possibilities of cost-effective extraction for years, thereby enormously increasing the value of Middle Eastern Oil. Now we'd be pumping even more billions of dollars into the hands of chronically-unstable Arab states, a rich fertile land where civil unrest, religious wars and plain old racial hatred is amazingly easy to generate for the purpose of fomenting armed conflict - and for whom we would be the main suppliers of weaponry. (Eventually, even the most ardent Right-wing isolationists will get used to the concept of pumping trillions of $ abroad in order to acrue influence and market access, once they see the enormous ease with with it can be gotten back in arms deals, drug sales, and fast food franchising.)
Through the years, the MICC will garner untold riches, Arabs will be systematically kept in poverty, held back socially and economically, or simply annihilated, as is seen fit. Maybe countries such around the size and political makeup of, oh let's say Iraq and Iran, can be goaded into protracted, ill-advised, hyper-bloody wars as we feed each side (either directly, or in parallel, unwritten partnerships with the Soviet Union) to the point where one is eventually declared a winner, but both sides lose economically.
Following that scenario, we can spur more incidents. Maybe we could, I dunno, have our intel (or our ambassador to Kuwait) point out to one small oil-soaked country that their large oil-soaked neighbor has an unfair amount of land mass and oil fields, and that if they chose to do the smart thing, and slant drill into those border oil fields, well... we wouldn't have any problem with that (wink, wink). Then we can go into that neighboring country, and have our ambassador (or some helpful corporate envoy who's been selling them biochemical pathogens) point out the slant-drilling that the little bitches are getting away with, and let them know we wouldn't have much of a problem if they bitch-slapped that little twerp country or even invaded (wink, wink) them.
They'd most likely invade, we'd have some political puppet (I dunno, maybe some synthetically manufactured Black military hero who's integrity no one would dare question) fake up some satellite photos showing the bad guys massing on the South border, about to invade the next domino (say, I dunno, Saudi Arabia maybe?) and before you know it, we might be invited to set up shop there. We let the situation fester a bit, trade barbs in the int'l media, use the national media to sell lies painting the invaders as the most vicious, merciless pricks on the planet (I dunno, maybe our pResident can help out, spew some bullshit about "incubator babies being thrown on the floor", or some such tripe - I'm sure even the little country's ambassador's kid will pitch in with an award-winning performance). Once the world see what subhumans these invaders are, we use back channels to make sure this invading prick to whom we used to sell chem weapons is certain this is all just false bravado for geo-political purposes, and we would never really pull the trigger. Wouldn't they be surprised when we DO march in all Rambo like, and force them into a hastily prepared mass retreat up the only available highway, then we mercilessly gun them down like the dogs we've painted them to be, with overkill that would make a Hollywood disaster film look like Snow White. No one will question motive or tactic, as the whole world would have known "they certainly had it coming."
The key would be to never really finish a war, never end a conflict, never resolve any political issues. Maybe we could feign incompetence and, I dunno, do something truly idiotic, like let the defeated army go back home with their guns, or some such crap. That way, in a few years, if we needed another conflict, it would be pre-fab.
This kind of scenario could be repeated endlessly, until enough resources have been plundered, enough Brown people have been killed off, and enough puppet regimes have been supplanted to make sure that the entire continent can be politically and economically bulldozed into the kind of malleable fodder that will have no choice but to accept the coming global governance.
See what I mean? I can't believe no one's ever thought of trying that.
Sorry this is off-topic. I just didn't think it was worth starting a new thread, and I didn't know where else to put it. It's kind of a conversational piece, and we were talking about Kuwait. Maybe, kinda, sorta (wink,wink). _________________ "No matter what happens, ever... there's ALWAYS at least one reason. And the top reason is ALWAYS money."
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject:
Rump that is one fantastic post, I'll save it so I can read it a few more times as it is fortified with very interesting analysis. Like you, I tend to throw 2 cents in whatever topic I feel my post would relate to lol (poor Fintan, I do feel bad sometimes about it, so feel free to move topics at will bud lol). Like this very post, listening to the audio this topic covers, I remember time and time again Fintan mentioning one of the great "enemies" monopoly capitalism is inventiveness. Lo and behold, the other night I ended up watching an incredible video on Nikolai Tesla, and boy that guy was literally something else in terms of a genius.....I could not believe (simply because I never studied his life in detail) that a fckng BANKER/S (again)....basically ruined his life....J.P Morgan. Tesla had an idea that could give energy to others freely in general, Morgan would not finance it once he learned of that element of the invention (hey!, kinda reminds us of Cold Fusion doesn't it?), "what a summbitch...."
Check out the following video guys, mindblowing. If a film is ever made (which it should), this fact had better be emphasized....(of course....sigh it probably won't be) Of course the FBI also raided the poor guys belongings after his death, which connects to Fintan's thoughts about the Star Wars program possibly being an off-shoot of Tesla's research, far fetched? I don't think so. God I love BFN lol...
But Big Boss we must be careful of the HARRP Police so PLEASE don't lay groundwork in that regard. Not everything said to be impossible is actually impossible. They were called Space Beams, remember?
I mentioned the Navy's shoot down of ( not 1 ) but 2 missiles via DEW on another thread in regard to HARRP and Earthquakes. I think the point was missed, or people just have little interests in things THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO EXIST.
Great post in regard to Tesla, a man truly ahead of his time. Much of his vision is all around those who care to look, but that requires an open mind.
I'm thinking " ON STAR " Funny thing that example in the vid about JP Morgan's change of heart when he learned of Tesla's True intent. Same with " ON STAR " If they average car buyer knew it's REAL INTENT they'd yank it from their vehicle in a second.
It's selling point is " In the event of a crash we'll notify authorities that you've been involved in an accident and need help " It's true intent is as a collection point of/for certain demographic habits and traits. I could name a dozen examples. All transmitted by signals developed by Tesla--
Nixon Is Accused of Aid to Ex-Nazi,
New York Times, October 7, 1962 (reporting events of October 6):
"Representative John F. Shelley, Democrat of California, has said that former Vice President Richard M. Nixon used his 'position and prestige' to help a Rumanian 'who was a leading Nazi, later a Communist collaborator, always a scoundrel, always an enemy of Americanism' get into the United States".
[...Nixon's press secretary accused Shelley of conducting] "a coast-to-coast campaign of smear".
"Mr. Shelley took the floor in the House of Representatives yesterday to charge that Nicolae Malaxa 'found sanctuary in the United States thanks to the special favors accorded him' by Mr. Nixon and by former Attorney General William P. Rogers, both Republicans".
"Mr. Malaxa of 1158 Fifth Avenue, Manhattan was ... not available for comment.
"Mr. Shelley described Mr. Malaxa as a former Rumanian munitions maker and 'one of the most sinister figures to have made his way through the maze of both Nazi and Communist dictatorships during the Hitler and Stalin regimes'".
"Mr. Shelley said Malaxa had been a financial backer of the Rumanian Iron Guard, a storm trooper outfit. He said Mr. Malaxa had 'outwitted his vicious accomplices and finally arrived in this hemisphere with several million dollars'".
"Mr. Malaxa came here in 1946 with a Rumanian trade delegation, and sought permanent residence in 1948, Mr. Shelley said. He added that Mr. Nixon, in 1952, then a Senator, was reported to have sought legislative action permitting Mr. Malaxa to enter the country.
"But Mr. Shelley conceded he could find no such legislation bearing Mr. Nixon's name".
[...]"During the Korean war, Mr. Shelley said, Mr. Malaxa organized a company known as the Western Tube Corporation, which was to build a plant in Mr. Nixon's home town of Whittier, Calif., to make tubes for oil drilling.
"Mr. Shelley said the company had applied for admission of Mr. Malaxa on the ground that he was needed to supervise affairs of the company.
"Mr. Malaxa was admitted from Canada in 1953. Western Tube never built a plant, Mr. Shelley said.
"[Herbert G. Klein, Mr. Nixon's aide,] said Mr. Nixon and Mr. Knowland had 'signed a routine letter asking that the merits of the Western Tube Corporation be examined".
The Power Elite & The Secret Nazi Plan
By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject:
Holy testicle tuesday!, I come on to respond to Hombre's post, and lo and behold: a new BFN audio! , thanks Fintan!, Hombre youre hilarious and very interesting response bud...I uhh....forgot about the HAARP police ...lol.
Just from reading what Dunne posted regarding the articles (and thanks for the caution) you can definitely make a case of Prescott Bush's connections to Thyssen and ultimately, Bush's 'grooming' of Nixon, as well as Harriman's leadership of Union Bank and its seizure. This all connects to the Nazi party and directly/indirectly, I am sure, to 9/11. I cannot wait to listen to this audio.
Are you for real? Michael Milken was innocent? He was a good guy?
The junk bond king was a predator and a leach. And I'm being nice. The guy bilked hundreds of millions of dollars a year by destroying American companies and American jobs. One reaps wealth that large by destroying jobs, not creating them. By impoverishing others to enrich one's self.
He is a parasite. Period.
Arnold's buddy too.
Hey, next audio tell us all what a great guy Charles Keating was. Then Ken Lay too. Another friend of Arnold.
You praise the sick rightwing freak show the John Birch Society as patriots and now you glorify a mega wealthy Wall Street crook as an underdog. Wow.
And you call it "Beautiful Truth". Wow.
what?? Wall St. profits from the MIC too??? OMG... _________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Nietzsche
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