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Camagüey



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camagüey wrote:
atm wrote:
Why do I have a niggling doubt about Lord Monkton? Suddenly we're in bed with the aristocracy?

His appearance on a certain Texan's radio show recently should ring alarm bells.

I'm glad I'm not alone here.

There's something just not right -- or too damn right -- about this character.


atm Idea


It looks a bit like what we saw with Michael Rupert on the CIA-drug connection. He is saying all the right things at the right time, then to use his credibility to lead us up the garden-path with another topic.

Thinking of his remarks about DDT being harmless as sugar, I would venture a guess that he will turn out to be a great supporter of GMO's. I almost expected him to get started on GMO's when he talked about millions of dead people due to not using DDT.

I don't know the DDT problematic at all, maybe he is right. But I can hear him burbling away in the same vein about billions of people dying, due to a lack of GMO crops, children going blind because they don't get vitamin A enriched rice.


Having read up on DDT, I have changed my mind. DDT is indeed dangerous and whoever declares it to be harmless is off his rocker. So with his statement about DDT the man is making a reverse George Galloway, starting out by proclaiming himself totally untrustworthy and then debunking global warming. Where does that put us?

I will start believing in global warming, if I get exposed to more people like him. And that is probably the idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Professor in climate change scandal
helping police with their enquiries while
researchers call for him to be banned


By Fiona Macrae - 7:31 PM on 02nd December 2009

The scientist at the heart of the climate change email scandal was today interviewed by police about the scandal.

Two plain clothes officers arrived in an unmarked car in the afternoon and took Professor Phil Jones to Norfolk Police's headquarters in nearby Wymondham to give a statement.


Sources said the interview concerned the theft of emails from the university and alleged death threats since the contents of the emails were released, adding he was being treated as a 'victim of crime' rather than a suspect in any criminal investigation.

Detective Superintendent Julian Gregory added: 'He is one of the people assisting police with their enquiries.'

A spokeswoman for the University of East Anglia refused to comment and said Professor Jones would not be adding to a statement he released on Tuesday.

The professor refused to comment at his detached home in Wicklewood, a few miles outside Norwich.

Meanwhile, researchers are calling for Professor Jones to be banned from contributing to agenda-setting United Nations reports.

Eduardo Zorita, an expert in European climate trends, said that future reports from the UN's International Panel of Climate Change would lack credibility if Professor Jones was involved in their compilation.

As director of the University of East Anglia's prestigious Climatic Research Unit, the professor has provided temperature data key to previous reports used by governments around the world when setting climate change policy.

Dr Zorita also said that the content of thousands of emails and documents stolen from the University of East Anglia's computer system and published on the internet confirmed that some global warming research was riddled with 'machination, conspiracies and collusion'.

He and colleague Hans von Storch were mentioned in more than 30 documents, with one email referring to Professor von Storch as 'frankly an odd individual'.

Other emails have been seized on by climate change sceptics as evidence that researchers have been manipulating raw data and discussing ways of evading Freedom on Information requests.

In one of the most damaging emails, Professor Jones seems to suggest using a 'trick' to massage years of temperature data to 'hide the decline'.

In another, he appears to respond to news of the death of climate sceptic John Daly with the words 'in an odd way this is cheering news!'

Others show British researchers apparently dismissing the work of scientists challenging the global warming orthodoxy as 'crap' and a top American climatologist admitting it was a 'travesty' that scientists could not account for the lack of global warming in recent years.

Dr Zorita, of the Institute for Coastal Research in Geesthacht in northern Germany, is an expert in climate change over the past 1,000 years and contributed to the most recent IPCC report.

He said that he was aware that his call for Professor Jones and others who wrote controversial emails to be banned from contributing to future reports could harm his career, but 'the scientific assessments in which they may take part are not credible any more'.

He said: 'I can confirm what has been written in other places: research in some areas of climate science has been and is full of machination, conspiracies and collusion, as any reader can interpret from the CRU files.

'The scientific debate has been in many instances hijacked to advance other agendas.'

The researcher added although he does not believe that manmade climate is a hoax, he and other researchers have been ‘bullied and subtly blackmailed’ to fit in the scientific mainstream.

'In this atmosphere, PhD students are often tempted to tweak their data so as to fit the "politically correct picture",' he said.

'Some, or many, issues about climate change are still not well known. Policy makers should be aware of these attempts to hide these uncertainties under a unified picture.'

The comments come in the wake of Professor Jones's decision to stand down from his university work while an independent investigation is carried out.

The professor said that he 'absolutely' stands by the science produced by the centre - and that suggestions of a conspiracy to boost the evidence for man-made global warming were 'complete rubbish'.

Issues to be probed include data security and whether the university responded to Freedom of Information requests.

However, the university was tonight unable to confirm if the data that appears to have been manipulated will be reanalysed.


Environmental chemist Professor Peter Liss will become acting director and further details of the review will be released 'within days'.

Professor von Storch, director of the Institute of Coastal research, said: 'This is a brave act on the side of Phil Jones and may be the only way to restore his authority as an excellent scientist.

'What is left for Phil Jones to do is to restrain from doing review work for journals, and, of course, he should stay away from the IPCC and similar assessment exercises.'

He added that the investigation should be led by a non-Briton and include input from climate change sceptics.

Dr Benny Peiser, director of the British-based Global Warming Policy Foundation, said: 'What is important is that the university comes clean on this and they don't fudge the inquiry.

'We need total transparency on this.

'If they try to set up some kind of whitewash panel which an inquiry that does not have the total trust of the public it will make matters worse.

'We have called for a High Court judge to chair the inquiry just to make sure that trust is restored.'

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Dr. Evil



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The power lies in us....according to Paul Laughing

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By ROBERT WIELAARD, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS – Paul McCartney has taken his Meat-Free Monday campaign to the European Parliament, saying the power to halt global warming lies as much with individuals as with their governments.
McCartney met in Brussels with Rajendra K. Pachauri, head of the U.N.'s global climate change panel, and praised the virtue of skipping meat one day a week for the sake of the environment.

The former Beatle says the production of food — from farm to fork — accounts for 20 to 30 percent of global green house gas emissions. Livestock production is responsible for around half of these emissions.
Pachauri lauded McCartney's initiative, saying it "makes the tasks of governments so much easier."
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went back to campus today after a nice week off eating turkey, and what do i find? "Not Evil, Just Wrong" flyers EVERYWHERE.
Then i go into one of the labs and start conversing, when the subject came up-and mind you these are an assortment of scientists and engineers(but no climatologists, diff building)-and these people are like "what?". They seemed to not know the full story, but they were genuinely interested, and for the first time i found myself being able to explain without getting dirty looks or some asshole butting in telling me I'm a Republican, Al Gore hater. It felt kinda weird, i was prepared for a fight. Smile
But the MSM and science literature is sure doing their part at trying to stifle the truth, even though its not working!!!!!!!!! Laughing
And of course i go back the next day, and 90% of the flyers are gone, there is still a few up in key places where people will def see it, but someone went around tearing them down last night. Usually on campuses there are flyers EVERYWHERE for all types of subjects, and they usually stay up for a while. The flyer im talking about was about a screening of the documentary at the university cinema. These people are shameless. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some professors who did it.
Either way, The Cat Is Out Of The Bag, and I'm loving every second.
If anything it gives scientists, and inquisitors -who would normally be reluctant to talk for fear of ridicule- a free pass to voice there long unheard thoughts on the subject.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

urbanspaceman wrote:
A programmer's prospective on the CRU's unreliable math and data:



This vid may have some substance to it, but this guy in the vid is without question a shill. He likes to censor commenter's who present facts that AGW is a scam, even though he seems to have the same opinion. He censored every single one of my comments, along with others too.
The only reason i can think of that explains it is that he is a shill. People need to be careful around shills like this who are going to do nothing but discredit any quest for truth. These Alarmists really have no shame. Sometimes i wish hell was real, and has a nice dark corner for people like him.

edit:i apologize for the double post.
I'm tempted to set up a few proxies, and just spam the crap out of him...but that would just mean i sank to his level.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the NWO master criminals - "manmade climate change" section - will just proceed as usual as though nothing has happened. They most likely will continue the 24/7 saturation propoganda and expect the same billion$ in US tax-slaver 'funding' as before.

It is interesting to note that criminal al gore did cancel one major 'lecture' and return the ticket holders' money in copenhagen(Why is it whenever I think of Copenhagen the first thing that comes to mind is sex-change surgery?):

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.berlingske.dk/klima/al-gore-aflyser-foredrag-under-cop15&sl=da&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Gore not coming to Kopengahen at all.

Read more:

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-unkind.html

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/5104
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



atm Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

climategate humour:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer curling.

The empirical and scientific data is much much harder.

No hockey stick required Wink .

http://www.irish-curling.org/

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Neutral

Jon makes fun of the exposed lies and Al Gore, then reinforces the meme in the end.

You had to know Inhofe's smarmy comments would be used as fodder for just how these "evil AGW deniers" react.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Iro-----ny

Yeah he semi-endorses the game at the end there.
Jus watchin' that paycheck. Wink


Researcher: NASA hiding climate data

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/researcher-says-nasa-hiding-climate-data/?feat=article_top10_read
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