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duane



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: the war on soy Reply with quote

not about the AGW leak, but important anyway

http://www.alternet.org/water/144074/the_war_on_soy%3A_why_the_%27miracle_food%27_may_be_a_health_risk_and_environmental_nightmare

The War on Soy: Why the 'Miracle Food' May Be a Health Risk and Environmental Nightmare

By Tara Lohan, AlterNet. Posted November 21, 2009.

Vegetarians aren't the only ones who should be concerned; there's soy in just about everything you eat these days -- including hamburgers, mac 'n cheese and salad dressing.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, almost 2010 and Alternet is finally catching on. Laughing

How We Won the Battle of “Helm’s Deep”

http://www.dogtorj.net/id23.html

http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/index.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more MSN breakthrough, this time on Huffpo

http://civileats.com/2010/12/09/the-truth-about-soy-health-claims/

Not Soy Fast

* Health

December 9th, 2010 By Kristin Wartman

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is some good info to have for the next time you tell someone that soy isn't good for you and they look at you like you are crazy:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

This shit is in everything, and its popularity is a complete agro-industrial coup. Soy is a rotation crop. Corn (barely edible itself) grows on a piece of land one year, and yanks out all the nitrogen from the soil. In order to replace this nitrogen, soybeans are planted in order to facilitate the arrival of nitrogen-fixing bacteria, which attach to the roots of these plants and replenish the soil.

Of course now that Western "ingenuity" has managed to convince Average Joe and Jane that soy is good for you and for the planet, these plants don't need to be wasted at the end of a growing season. These boys did such a good job selling soy that it can now stand on its own.

Capitalism sure is efficient, huh.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soy is everywhere, as much as corn if not more.
Most products on grocery store shelves contain soy,
including the 'gluten/dairy-free' aisles.
It's a constant battle with these health issues
when you're tying to shop for food, even if you are keen.
There's junk in a lot more than
what your average citizen would consider comfort-food .
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bri wrote:
Soy is everywhere, as much as corn if not more.
Most products on grocery store shelves contain soy,
including the 'gluten/dairy-free' aisles.
It's a constant battle with these health issues
when you're tying to shop for food, even if you are keen.
There's junk in a lot more than
what your average citizen would consider comfort-food .


Great health blog, run by a PhD neurobiologist:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/

Like the Weston A. Price Foundation, he focuses on traditional foods, or those consumed by cultures around the world prior to the arrival of large-scale industrialization.

His main point seems to be that, regardless of macronutrient composition (fat, carbs, protein), it is industrially processed food that is damaging to health, and thus it is traditional foods that can restore or preserve good health.

In the case of fruits, grains, vegetables, and some meats, traditional foods are often fermented or prepared in such a manner is to reduce the toxins present in them, thus making the nutrients more bio-available.

Other foods such as bone broth or organ meats, having fallen out of the modern diet almost entirely, also should be included in a healthy diet. I have seen the benefits of this myself...I had pretty bad digestion problems for a few months, cooked up some bone broth (chicken bones), and problem solved. Apparently the gelatin extracted from the bones is highly beneficial to digestion.

Personally, in addition to the broth, I do my best to eat whole foods, avoid gluten (and now dairy as well...except pastured butter), and try to get in some liver or at least cod liver oil. I think I remember Fintan suggesting in his interview with DogtorJ to avoid the middle isles of the grocery store. Bingo.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just caught my eye:

Quote:
3. Avoid dairy when you have a cold.
Truth: There’s no medical basis to skip dairy when you’re sick.
Many people, including some pediatricians, believe that dairy products increase mucus production. However, research shows this may be a placebo effect. In one study, people who knew they were drinking cow's milk reported more nasal symptoms than those who had soy milk—but people who didn't know which milk they were drinking reported the same (minimal) effects.
http://shine.yahoo.com/event/staywellforfall/7-cold-and-flu-myths-debunked-2401731


Of course there are no references to the "Study" in the article.
An intelligent person might conclude that they both cause mucus.
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