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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOW , Let's sEE What We Shall sEE :

JBS Founder Robert Welch in 1974: Forerunner of Ron Paul?
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Sound Familar ?
anti-globalization...
anti-UN--NWO...
anti-FED..

and let's Remember :
Often ,
Pretty-Good SOUNDin' Words Hide 'Secret-Agendas'.

conservative-libertarianism ?
[I.E. so-Called : beyond left-right-politics]
Really equals : Conservatism.

Ronald Reagan often is quoted as saying:
"I believe the very
heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism."

Now , Ronald Reagan , like all Presidents :
Did some Good AND did some BAD...

Question IS :
Did his Good OUTWEIGH his Bad?





JBS laid foundation of conservatism in 1950s...

NOW , Mr. Celentes says concerning '2nd Revolution' :

The third volley, fired in early August,
was aimed point blank at Senators and House members
pitching President Obamas health care reform package to constituents.

In fiery town hall meetings,
enraged citizens shouted down their elected representatives.
It took a strong police presence and/or burly bodyguards
to preserve a safe physical space between the politicians
and irate townspeople.








The above statement leads us to Closer lOOk at JBS' :

Fred Koch :

Who Is Fred Koch ?


Fred Koch , along with Robert Welch IS :
A founding member of JBS __:
Now , Check-Out some-of-JBS' Friends...
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=623&name=John-Birch-Society


Which Leads us to Mr. Celentes' 3rd volley fired
for 2nd American-Revolution :

David Koch :

http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities/david-koch.html

Grandson Of JBS founder : Fred Koch.

David Koch is
one of conservative-Libertarian-Puppet-Masters OF :
SO-CALLED__2nd American Revolution...

note : 5' minutes into video__:
The JBS-David Koch-2nd 'American-Revolutions'....
sEcret... starts to Reveal-Itself :



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JBS ; anti-UN ; anti-NWO ???
Well ,

What Is the NWO that JBSers...
sEcRetly ENVISION....

Could It be similiar To :
The NWO Envisioned By G.W.Bush #2 ?

Called :
World-Wide Corporatocracy ?

Hell... Yes!



Check-It-Out :
note :[i] use critical-thought
to analyse the CONTENT..instead of just the Name
Of-Following website :
http://www.rense.com/general62/corporatocracy.htm
SO , BEWARE Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo...atm

atm wrote...
Quote :
"I am NOT, repeat not, JBS; if anything I am JBL: loud and well-built."

Yeah atm..I appreciate That ;
Yet , even it U were JBS...
It wouldn't , neccesarily , make U a Bad-person ;
Like I said JBS has its'
Good ,
Bad ,
And ugly like Most Orgs.

alot of JBSers... like in Other Orgs...
don't suspect a 'Secret-Agenda'.

Funny... Laughing
I remember gettin' pulled into :
'conServative-Libertarianism'...
[I.E. Beyond left-right politics]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Libertarian_Manifesto

After reading Ayn Rands' : "Altas Shrugged"
Ayn Rand says JBS has business-economics 'RIGHT'...
Yet , JBS doesn't Have political-philosophy...

GUESS What ?

Both JBS & Ayn Rand Supported AND voted for :
Right-Wing conservative : Barry Goldwater
in 1964 presidential-election ;

Ayn Rand was ALSO a fervent-Fan OF :
Friedrich , Superman , Nietzshe...
[I.E. who Inspired Hilter so-Much]

Conspricacy-Bluffs :
left & right Need to Know :
the subtle-Facts about JBS
And BEWARE Exclamation Laughing Exclamation

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The John Birch Society ?
YES :
True, their ranks thinned out
when their founder Robert Welch died,
and I thought they went the route of so many
flavor-of-the-month extreme groups and just evaporated.

Not so.
Seems the JBS is alive and well
and kicking up all sort of under-the-radar dust.

This time it's not communism but
EU World domination
and of course government meddling in private lives
(read: guns, taxes, far-right ideology
and oh yes,
massive funding from people like the Koch family).

So, you roll all those things together
and its the same old Leopard of the 50's and 60's,
only with new Millennium spots.

So I stumbled across a news item from 1965,
a review of a new film put out by the Society
in an effort to drum up support.

Seems after over 50 years of being around,
the John Birch Society is still around and paranoid as ever.



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http://newstalgia.crooksandliars.com/gordonskene/flying-under-radar-john-birch-society

Define a SHILL :

A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services
or a political group, who pretends no association
to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer.

The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology,
to encourage others unaware of the set-up to purchase
said goods or services or support the political group's ideological claims.

Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant is also used.


Here's the meeting of 2 Shills :

Alex Jones Meets John McManus
[I.E. McManus is current head-Salesman Of:
John Birch-Society/or NWO Corporatocracy...]

John McManus(In-Studio)on Alex Jones Tv 4/5:
Obama's Dictatorial Agenda for America !!


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Yeah ,
gotta wacthOut For :
BIG-BAD-NWO....

Yet , REMEMBER__:

When Fascism Comes To America...It Will Be Wrapped
in a Flag And Carrying A Cross..







SO,
BEWARE OF__:

N.W.O-
World-Wide-
Coporatocracy :


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atm wrote:

if anything I am JBL: loud and well-built.


Laughing I just got that one. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver, I think I sort of understand what you are trying to say.
I had similar fears for a fleeting moment during the rise of Ron Paul. Facism hiding under revolution.

What they are doing now is not working for them (the NWO)
Yet, perhaps some kind of Libertarian Facism/Exposing themselves is plan B? Wink

Still, I really think you have nothing to be afraid of. It's actually very important that we confront our fears of talking to people we consider "opposites" politically. Of course, keep you B.S. detector on and "never join a club that would have you as a member" (the OTHER Marx)

Yeah all this Right Wing attack on Obama stuff can get pretty creepy if you chose to look at it that way. Especially in the case of ALex Jones, whom I've been watching closely, the presentation seems to be designed to turn people off of anything critical of the government while also making them look more credible. With a whole bunch of fake paranoid dis-info thrown into the mix.

Speaking of creeps...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah bri ,
I Agreed ;

That's why I try to stay-Away from...
demonizing entire Groups..
{I.E. ALL CIA , DIA , CFR , NWO , John Birch Society...etc.

Well__that Is :
except for neo-Nazis & groups like
KKK...et al...

And alot
of what 'They' do is beCause Of :
vicitimization by stereo-Typical Ignorance...

It's a house-of-mirrors-Matrix ;
Yet , It's ALL Good....

If we can sEE a BIGGER-Picture...

Quote :
"Did we come here to laugh or cry ?
Are we dying or being born ? "

Terra Nostra
by Carlos Fuentes


healthy political-discussion is Good...
Maybe ,
Now we understand R different perspectives...
a bit-better Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CREEPS ???


Laughing Laughing Laughing Come On bri...
I hope U didn't buy into
the Obama-Superman-Hype..
OR Obama-The-Saint...
BS

A beautiful-woman ; with a beautiful-ass...
Makes ya beleive in God....
don't IT ? Laughing

bri wrote ;
Quote ;

"Still, I really think you have nothing to be afraid of."

Well , guess ya' might not get-it...
because :
"There's nothing to F-E-A-R but Fear Itself." Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'd have to say all NWO members would be psychotic even if they think what they are doing is good.
But...demonizing NWO/Bush/Obama will not work because they are a part of us in the grand scheme of things. Most CIA employees are paper pushers and are no more in'the-know than us. Even if they decide to write a book about it later.
The NWO octopus is very real but...
Our own personal NWO inside of us is really what's holding us back.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silverthread wrote:


A beautiful-woman ; with a beautiful-ass...
Makes ya beleive in God....
don't IT ? Laughing


Can't deny that. Laughing

Try this on for size...



Not to demonize...but...
Makes ya believe in Satan, don't it? Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WELL then...
Time for some BiBle-Trumpin..
That... well This..
U MIGHT UnderStand :

'I create Good and I create Evil...
Yea , I Jehovah , Created ALL these Things Exclamation
[I.E. paraphase-of Isaiah 45:7]

got-it Question
Hope SO.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all of this have become semi-irrelevant to A US Revolution.

Just to put us back on track:

I don't know if it's "John Birch Society Birthers" but there will always be people out there trying to play on fear and guide the anger of the people into the ground.

Aside from being a little paranoid about the John Birch Society, I think you have some kind of underlying point that I can grasp. We have to be careful of "CIA-Fakes" coming from the "Next US Revolution Crowd"

Yet one has to admit, we all want real change.
Change change change, the word seems almost overcooked now doesn't it?

We need personal revolutions, love, and a willingness to reach out to others.
Sounds like some hippy shit doesn't it?
The hippies and the teabaggers need to start linking up!

Yeah a lot of people are ripped at Obama personally right now.
Where did years of being fuming mad at Bush Jr. get us?

Then when people start to see the big picture it becomes "ah the fucking corporations".
I'm not saying there are no very powerful scum sucking son of a bitch bastards out there. If someone fucks you over, murders your kin, and destroys your society, you have every right to be mad.

Yet, we always seem to react in a feedback loop. Violence or chanting slogans down tour-guide marches.
We have to adjust our thought process and actions here in the USA, we can hold off as long as we'd like and many people will.
Real Revolution would certainly not be Televised and though the internet is an incredibly handy tool it is by no means the answer.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free Of Paranoia ,
Free Of wanting to BE Right
Free from Fear of BEing Wrong...
One must lOOk at FACTs...

And FACT Is :
Mr.Celente Is WRONG
in assestment of 2nd American Revolution..
It's point-blank-That-Simple. Cool

P.S.
And many 'Conspiracy-Buffs'
are wrong when assessing nature OF NWO..

[I.E. It's mOre like unregulated Corporatocracies...
than UN , G8 , G20 world-domination-plots]
point-blank-
and-That-simple. Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Celente may very well be wrong in every word on his assessment of a US Revolution. I am unfamiliar with his work and I know RT has some sketchy special guests. I agree with some of his words in his video and yet this may all be more complex than we can even imagine at this time.
Old and young will discover together if anything is to truly change. White Collar and Blue Collar, but no "People's Revolution" rhetoric. No "Libertarianism"
"ISM ISM ISM"
This economical and political rut will shake old habits.

Conflicting viewpoints may be what fits the puzzle pieces of this Reloveution together.

Yeah there are scary people out there Silver, don't be so paranoid of the paranoid. They are low in numbers and some people might not be as scary as you seem to think.


What is G20 but an unregulated Corporatocracy?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bri wrote :
Quote:
"don't be so paranoid of the paranoid."

Yo.. bri ...What's with U
& the paranoia-Thing ???

I 'm Not Paranoia About
a buch of Paranoid John-Birchers...R You?

U keep bringin' this Up....
WHAT ?.... R You hearing-Voices-Too ???

If SO.... get some Help...dude! Exclamation

P.S.
Hope I haven't Shattered Any Cult-like dogmas
about NWO...
U might have cherished...
N'all , I take that back....Good Riddance Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems we will never understand each other Silver. Keep on. Very Happy Wink
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