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GaryGo
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Fucking Great letter Jimbo
What's the Chances that Muad Dib guy is the 7/7 version of Eric Hufschmid
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Jimbo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| GaryGo wrote: | Fucking Great letter Jimbo
What's the Chances that Muad Dib guy is the 7/7 version of Eric Hufschmid
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Did you watch 7/7 The Ripple Effect? I did and I disagree with the J7 people on the film. It isn't Kubrick but it isn't as bad as the letter writer says the J7 people say it is. For one thing it is not racist toward Muslims nor anti-semitic. The J7 people don't like the film because it constructs a scenario. J7 doesn't like making up stuff. They collect anomalies and then are campaigning for one day having a fair and open 7/7 inquiry in order to explain what really happened. Muad Dib goes over J7's line and speculates what might have happened. And makes an interesting case, too, I think. |
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GaryGo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| Jimbo wrote: | | They collect anomalies and then are campaigning for one day having a fair and open 7/7 inquiry in order to explain what really happened. Muad Dib goes over J7's line and speculates what might have happened. And makes an interesting case, too, I think. |
Based on what you know about 7/7 what would your best guess be on what happened that day Jimbo?
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littlematt
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: |
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can anyone direct me to pictures of the tube floor?
i cant seem to find any good pictures and they all seem to be cropped
so you cant see the floor properly.
with regards to the bbc documentary they mentioned this a few times
but skimmed over it.
btw a friend of mine has a cousin who work at the uxbridge tube depot.
he claims that were were lots of police at the station on the morning of 7\7
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Jimbo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| GaryGo wrote: | | Jimbo wrote: | | They collect anomalies and then are campaigning for one day having a fair and open 7/7 inquiry in order to explain what really happened. Muad Dib goes over J7's line and speculates what might have happened. And makes an interesting case, too, I think. |
Based on what you know about 7/7 what would your best guess be on what happened that day Jimbo?
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I really don't know. I'm not a very good fact repository. You can watch the video online for free. He's got a pretty interesting angle on the story but he is careful to say he is speculating. And the J7 Truth blog is loaded with many sad facts that show the government is lying. http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/ You can see how so much of 7/7 is like 9/11. Like in the official 9/11 story, with 7/7 incompetence is used by the government and the media to excuse everything from cocking up the train times, how all the surveillance cameras were not working that day, how power surges became crazed Muslim bombers and the horribly bizarre police killing of that poor Brazilian boy in the subway car. Like in 9/11, if it really were a "government plot" you'd think there would be more competence. But then the number and impossibility of the screw-ups are too many to believe that it wasn't a plot that somehow went bad. And then there is the stubborn refusal to have an official inquiry. You gotta wonder!
There are other films that are very good. Ludicrous Diversions is one and Mind the Gap another. This story is as fascinating and as much a linchpin to the war and all that other crap as 9/11 is, I think. |
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virtuoso
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Guys you are going to have to help me out with all of this, fintan produced a 9 point (i think) statement of why the photo which captured the supposed bombers outside the train station was false. However subsequently the original photo, cleared of all it's warping and imperfections was released. We also have the issue of Peter Power conducting slow time to real time drills in case of an emergency, but the problem with this is how frequently did these occur? I am also not convinced that the purchasing of a pay as you display tick constitutes anything other than "smokescreen" as by itself it's useless. Now of course it would be very easy for the supposed bombers tapes (prior to the attack) being faked, or they themselves might have thought they were part of a drill? however isn't this simply speculation?
I guess the one huge question mark is that witnesses saw the blast hole in the train pushing upwards and not downwards as you would expect from a blast within the train, however besides witness statements, surely these photos of the blast within the train have been verified and archived for public consumption? Another issue to contest with is the fact that Netanyahou was seemingly warned about the bombings prior to the public knowing, again the problem with this though is the story has been changed so dramatically, that couldn't it simply be attributed to "excitable journalism" i.e. the wild claims made before conducting a proper assessment?. The other problem to contend with is Shaylor, Shaylor speaks out about this and yet Shaylor tells us that holograms hit the world trade centre!.
There is no doubt this stinks, the fake bomb attacks 2 weeks after this, completely nullified any questions about 7/7 and mirrored the proven government anthrax terror attack straight after September 11. However the question I am really trying to ascertain is, can we seperate the wheat from the chaff? and if so, please could someone briefly summarise what are the burning/damning aspects of this. |
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GaryGo
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Ok Jimbo my take is that I don't know specifically but I would say 9/11 and 7/7 are a bit like "The Sting"
Im sure there was all kinds of shit going on.
I bet there's actually people who think they "did it" but are probably part of a decoy team...I would say there would have been more resources going into the bullshit distractions than the actual planting of the bomb etc which was probably one man who has been working in deep cover on the underground for years.
The main operation itself is the Disinfo crap,the shite,the rumor,the controversy, the endless manufactured loss ends, the deliberately suspicious stunts and events, what was he doing they doing, hey whats that whats this ?
Till eventually "O V E R L O A D" to much shit to take in and its really made up disinfo anyway.
So who did it?
NATO and the CIA
http://911review.com/precedent/century/gladio.html
how do you know?
Because of all the bullshit happening at the same time its gotta be a Black op ??
If Gypsies parked caravans near your house and a couple days later you were burgled you would blame the Gypsies!
You didn't see them break into your house but your experience tells you it was them - you cant prove it but you tell everyone it was them...
it was them...
7/7 is the same... you can't prove it was them but there's so much shit the same as 9/11 you know it has gotta be an inside job.
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Jimbo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| virtuoso wrote: |
I guess the one huge question mark is that witnesses saw the blast hole in the train pushing upwards and not downwards as you would expect from a blast within the train, however besides witness statements, surely these photos of the blast within the train have been verified and archived for public consumption?
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This is the famous pic of the hole. It looks like a downward blast to me. But there are parts which bubble up, no? and stuff that looks like it is coming up thru the hole. |
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littlematt
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: |
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arrgh i cant see the photo above!!
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GaryGo
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| GaryGo wrote: | Ok Jimbo my take is that I don't know specifically but I would say 9/11 and 7/7 are a bit like "The Sting"
Im sure there was all kinds of shit going on.
I bet there's actually people who think they "did it" but are probably part of a decoy team...I would say there would have been more resources going into the bullshit distractions than the actual planting of the bomb etc which was probably one man who has been working in deep cover on the underground for years.
The main operation itself is the Disinfo crap,the shite,the rumor,the controversy, the endless manufactured loss ends, the deliberately suspicious stunts and events, what was he doing they doing, hey whats that whats this ?
Till eventually "O V E R L O A D" to much shit to take in and its really made up disinfo anyway.
So who did it?
NATO and the CIA
http://911review.com/precedent/century/gladio.html
how do you know?
Because of all the bullshit happening at the same time its gotta be a Black op ??
If Gypsies parked caravans near your house and a couple days later you were burgled you would blame the Gypsies!
You didn't see them break into your house but your experience tells you it was them - you cant prove it but you tell everyone it was them...
it was them...
7/7 is the same... you can't prove it was them but there's so much shit the same as 9/11 you know it has gotta be an inside job.
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Just click on this link. 
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littlematt
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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any more photos NOT abc exclusive? if you know what i mean!
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Littlemat I can assure you these have nothing to do with ABC and have gotta be at least DD E F ??
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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ok i'll take that as a no then?
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