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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Audio: THE QUANTUM MIRROR Part 1: Here Comes Everybody! Reply with quote

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The Beautiful Truth - 26th April, 2009

THRU THE QUANTUM MIRROR

Part 1: ' Here Comes Everybody! '

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Here Comes Everybody!


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Terence McKenna - Surfing Finnegan's Wake


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Oasis: 'Fallling Down' BreakForNews Mix :

Oasis original + Gibb mix + Prodigy mix

Download http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/FallingDown.mp3

The summer sun, it blows my mind
It's falling down on all that I've ever known
Time will kiss the world goodbye
Falling down on all that I've ever known
Is all that I've ever known

A dying scream makes no sound
Calling out to all that I've ever known
Here am I, lost and found
Calling out to all

We live a dying dream
If you know what I mean
All that I've ever known
It's all that I've ever known

Catch the wheel that breaks the butterfly
I cried the rain that fills the ocean wide
I tried to talk with God to no avail
Calling him in and out of nowhere
Said if you won't save me
Please don't waste my time

http://breakfornews.com/fallingdown.htm


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Introductory Notes on Finnegans Wake

list of excerpts to read

Michael Groden - English 454FA — Fall 2007

If Ulysses is a book of the day, then Finnegans Wake is a book of the
night. One way to approach the text is to consider it as a dream. The
narrative operates like a dream: it is full of distortion, fragmentation, and
sudden and unexplained shifts in the story. If you try to understand or
interpret the details, the text is also like a dream in that almost every
detail is overdetermined - that is, each one can be explained in more than
one way.
.....

Joyce wrote to Harriet Shaw Weaver, "One great part of every human
existence is passed in a state which cannot be rendered sensible by the
use of wideawake language, cutanddry grammar, and goahead
plot".

But, if Finnegans Wake is a dream, it is a dream without a dreamer. Or,
rather, since the text never gets outside the dream, we have no idea who
the dreamer is.....

In the way that The Odyssey stands behind Ulysses, there is a book
behind Finnegans Wake as well. But it is a work of philosophy rather than
of literature: Giambattista Vico's Scienza Nuova, or New Science (1725,
1744). Vico argues that history is cyclical and that each cycle consists of
three different ages—an age of gods, an age of heroes, and an age of
humans—followed by a short transitional age, a ricorso, that also initiates
the next cycle. Joyce took the attitude he had already worked with in
Ulysses, that Homer's larger-than-life characters could find equivalents in
ordinary 1904 Dublin, and expanded this to the point that all ages, and
people and characters in them, can be seen as reflections of one another.
Patterns persist, but for Joyce, following Vico, they always fall into this
four-part cyclical structure.

http://instruct.uwo.ca/english/454f/fwintro.html



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EXPANDING EARTH

13 Neal Adams Videos on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7943B6DB89F53BD2

15 Original Neal Adams HQ Flash Videos:
http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

Earth is in fact Growing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI

Mars is Growing Also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeUEzM7hsmY


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Ayesha (novel)

Ayesha, the Return of She is a gothic novel by the popular Victorian author H. Rider Haggard, published in 1905, as a sequel to his far
more popular and well known novel, She.


The preceding novel, She, ended with the escape of Leo Vincey and his companion, Horace Holly, from the interior of Africa after witnessing the death of Ayesha. Ayesha, a beautiful and apparently immortal woman born centuries ago in ancient Egypt, had waited thousands of years for the reincarnation of her lover Kallikrates, whom she believed she had found in the form of Leo. Attempting to persuade him to step into the strange volcanic flame that had granted her immortality, so that he too would live forever, she stepped into it herself; but the second time undid all the years that had been suspended for her and she grew old in an instant and died.

Ayesha: the Return of She is set sixteen years later. Horace and Leo
are in Tibet, having spent the intervening years travelling the world attempting to find Ayesha, whom Leo believes is still alive in some form...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayesha_(novel)


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Our world may be a giant hologram

15 January 2009 by Marcus Chown

DRIVING through the countryside south of Hanover, it would be easy
to miss the GEO600 experiment. From the outside, it doesn't look much:
in the corner of a field stands an assortment of boxy temporary buildings,
from which two long trenches emerge, at a right angle to each other,
covered with corrugated iron. Underneath the metal sheets, however,
lies a detector that stretches for 600 metres.


For the past seven years, this German set-up has been looking for
gravitational waves - ripples in space-time thrown off by super-dense
astronomical objects such as neutron stars and black holes. GEO600 has
not detected any gravitational waves so far, but it might inadvertently
have made the most important discovery in physics for half a century.

For many months, the GEO600 team-members had been scratching their
heads over inexplicable noise that is plaguing their giant detector. Then,
out of the blue, a researcher approached them with an explanation. In
fact, he had even predicted the noise before he knew they were detecting
it. According to Craig Hogan, a physicist at the Fermilab particle physics
lab in Batavia, Illinois, GEO600 has stumbled upon the fundamental limit
of space-time - the point where space-time stops behaving like the
smooth continuum Einstein described and instead dissolves into "grains",
just as a newspaper photograph dissolves into dots as you zoom in. "It
looks like GEO600 is being buffeted by the microscopic quantum
convulsions of space-time," says Hogan.

If this doesn't blow your socks off, then Hogan, who has just been
appointed director of Fermilab's Center for Particle Astrophysics, has an
even bigger shock in store: "If the GEO600 result is what I suspect
it is, then we are all living in a giant cosmic hologram.
".....

More: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126911.300-our-world-may-be-a-giant-hologram.html?full=true

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_600


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn this is weird. I was walking home from work and was thinking to myself "I could sure use another Tree Incarnation audio at this point in my life". Can't wait to hear it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Immortal VS Eternal? Reply with quote

Oh Fintan, the Salmon of Knowledge (LOL)

Great info, insights and conclusions, as usual. What a gift you have for finding the truth behind all the smoke and mirrors! I'm grateful for your efforts...

Among many of the things this program has me thinking about is the distiction between the terms "immortal" and "eternal".

To me, without consulting dictionaries or learned opinions, I perceive that one becomes immortal, but one is eternal. When I think back on our great stories, it seems that those who become immortal have actually found some method to cheat death, to remain in their current physical form and timeline and resist the normal deterioration of body and mind that happens in an incarnation. The word eternal, on the other hand, suggest a being that has moved beyond the limitations of material existence and can experience timelessness and formlessness in conjunction with physical manifestation.

I've noticed you use the words rather interchangeably. Do you think this is a valid distiction?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great show, as expected. I admittedly do not always "get" the Treeincarnation shows - I would guess perhaps my brain's architecture is ill-designed to stay awake during or be able to clearly grasp the visuals. Laughing Intellectual ADHD? Whatever.

But a few quick observances and added tidbits. A funeral - the supposed "end of life" is also called a "wake", perhaps additionally implying that the end is equal to another beginning.

It also speaks to the "duality of the universe", an issue addressed to semi-extreme in the new semi-pop video, Kymatica, by the Stewart Brothers of Esoteric Agenda semi-fame. An interesting vid for anyone who hasn't seen it, for several reasons, not the least of which is it's left-slanted take on everything from animal rights to the illegitimacy of mainstream religion (by my interpretation) to how the universe is an organism made up of endless positive-negative social/physical counterparts.

If Fintan's analysis is as spot on as I suspect it is, then perhaps this is a kind of antithesis to that agenda - that, yes, there is a duality to the universe, but perhaps it's an imposed, holographic, false duality. That truth lies actually beyond black and white, left and right, male and female, etc., in a third direction, beyond conventional understandings. Can we go as far as to say that social control perhaps depends heavily on us buying into all dualities? The reason we have primarily two political agendas/parties - because the endless back and forth pendulum effect of left-right politics is how you mass hypnotize? A third direction would be the guy in the gorilla suit, hidden by everyone frantic search for "the truth". Cool

Also, wouldn't a true religion (perhaps spiritual mindset is better) - be one that encompasses all the positive traits that human consciousness tells us is "good / beneficial to and respective of others", and instead of asking for "faith" in it's validity, instead be constantly challenging others to disprove it's very core belief? Either way, the challenger is providing a service. Prove me wrong and stop me from deluding myself, so that I can pursue an alternate path, or prove me right and let know know I'm on the right path.

Every organized religion, as far as those of which I am familiar, always preaches that the follower must try to recruit others into the fold. What a refreshing audio this was, in that respect.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LelaBear:
I perceive that one becomes immortal, but one is eternal.

Good point. I also use the term multi-incarnate,
and I think I should stick to that because it's more
specific -rather than use either immortal or eternal.

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A funeral - the supposed "end of life" is also called a "wake"

I looked it up and here's the etymology:

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wake (n.2)
"state of wakefulness," O.E. -wacu (as in nihtwacu "night watch"), related to watch; and partly from O.N. vaka "vigil, eve before a feast," related to vaka "be awake" (cf. O.H.G. wahta "watch, vigil," M.Du. wachten "to watch, guard;" see wake (v.)). Meaning "a sitting up at night with a corpse" is attested from 1412 (the verb in this sense is recorded from c.1250). The custom largely survived as an Irish activity. Wakeman (c.1200), which survives as a surname, was M.E. for "watchman."
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wake

So it looks like the term is derived from the night "watch".

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...wouldn't a true religion (perhaps spiritual mindset is better) - be one
that encompasses all the positive traits that human consciousness tells us
is "good / beneficial to and respective of others", and instead of asking
for "faith" in it's validity....

Indeed. Such a spiritual ethos would be humanist but wouldn't foster
the kind of hysterical, blind commitment which Religion uses to recruit.
Religion relies on the PsyOp value of the threat of eternal damnation/
exclusion of the non-believer. Which makes the Dept. of Homeland
Security roughly equivalent to the religious Dept. of Death Security. lol

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic, mind expanding show, Fintan. The Oasis song was amazing, and I don't like Oasis. And the Finnegan's Wake riff was awesome. And this is the first I heard of the expanding earth idea. I looked up the videos and Adams illustrations make a lot of sense to me except, and maybe I missed this, but what is "filling" up the Earth? Magma? Plasma?
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Rumpl4skn wrote:

Every organized religion, as far as those of which I am familiar, always preaches that the follower must try to recruit others into the fold.


Not Judaism.
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maybe I missed this, but what is "filling" up the Earth? Magma? Plasma?

There are suggestions it's something to do with neutrinos. But the actual
mechanism is purely speculation so far. What is not speculative is the
evidence of your eyes watching the continents fit perfectly on a smaller
Earth in Neal Adam's online animations.

I forgot to mention another key piece of evidence: the huge size of
dinosaurs is likely due to a much lower gravity on a smaller planet.

Similarly with flighted creatures of that era. Could such massive 'birds'
and dinosaurs have even moved around in an Earth gravity similar to
today's? Many doubt they could have.

Those issues also indicate that Earth's expansion is less likely to be
due to density decrease --because that would leave gravity unchanged.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This audio really connected with me... So many things that I have been
driven to uncover (out of a life-long quest for what is reality) you mention
& nail in this audio. Not particularly the mirror information, but a lot of the
rest... thank you Fintan. You are probably familiar with this guy, I also
find a lot of truth in his work, Bill Gaede I think is his name?

http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSJjs4l_FHU

...and from the youtube link you can follow the series 'Einstein's Idiots'
going at theoretical physicist's & mathematician's definitions of physical
objects & theories.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Bill Gaede is cool, I browsed thru the site once before. He kicks
some major holes in mainstream concepions. I've also covered the
ridiculous idea of the "point" in a previous audio.

Bucky Fuller has addressed a lot of these inconsistencies in his work.

In the final analysis science would be better off replacing their idea
of "points" and "atoms" with the Sphere. I say there is nothing which
does not arise out of the fundamental nature of Sphere. Sphere is
built of Sphere or contains Sphere depending on your perspective.

One of his major contributions is to highlight the way different parts
of the classic understanding actually have inbuilt vagueness which
allows the same thing to have multiple roles in theoretical ideas.

Another implication of his vaild criticisms is that this vagueness makes
it possible to have neverending arguments about physics --due to the
fact that different people are using the same terms in different ways.
You can go round and round in this forever. And they do!

The acid test is to develop conceptual models which are rigorously
defined and which value brevity, simplicity and economy.

My own approach has been to reality-check any conceptual model
first against humanly-observable gross physical structures in our
everyday life: trees, lakes, day, night, shape, etc.. Why? Because
these reveal the underlying structures. Then going on to develop
top level concepts with the most explanation in the minimum
concept structure.

So we have to revisit the Greek foundations of modern thinking,
(as Fuller did) applying their methodology of rational logic --but
effectively starting all over again; tossing out points, planes and
discrete atoms and building anew.

Glad you got something out of the audio.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offtopic a bit, so there is a Noel Gallagher interview here
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56190#56190

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, you have been in the religion-of-the-month-club too, eh?
Laughing

Great show Fintan! I had to listen to this twice.
First time, when I got the email announcement. Casually listened. Y'know, while perusing stuff online for my term papers... a bit multi-tasking. That was distracting. And plain wrong.

Second time, lights off, screen off, laying on the floor, cat cuddled in my armpit. What a better way it was! Your voice made me hypnotized. I dozed off for a few seconds here and there, but heard you loud and clear.

Wow.

Has anyone noticed that when you look in a mirror, you SEE yourself? I mean, you see YOU? I see my I.
But when you look at a photograph of yourself, do you see a disconnected resemblence of you? I see someone and I've accepted that it's basically a reconstruction of me. A representation, if you will. But...
It's past tense.

What about looking at yourself in a live webcam projection on your computer screen? What is that?
Well, if you keep it mirror-imaged, you tend to accept it as your reflection... because it moves the way you expect it to (like you do infront of a mirror). But change it up - reverse it as with a photograph, right hand becomes graphically correct - then you get all discombobulated.

Strange.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to get a Neal Adam's discussion going on my usual forum and was mostly shot down by my for the most part intelligent fellow board members. I said how awed I was and posted links to Adam's amazing videos and a number of them responded by saying how could a mere comic book illustrator be smarter than so many real scientists and that science has spoken and that plate tectonics are it. Now, I am not a science guy by any stretch but I found Adam's ideas of the expanding earth mind blowing, to tell the truth. I couldn't wait to tell my online friends and now they think I'm nuts.

Maybe it is me (and Fintan). Do any of you have an opinion about Adam's work?
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Well, tell 'em this is not a theory developed by Neal Adams.
It was pioneered by Australia's most famous geologist Samuel Warren
Carey
, and colleagues in the middle of the last century. It was the
subject of a scientific battle back then --which Carey et. al. lost.

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Despite the eventual acceptance of the plate expansion and subduction
paradigm over Carey's theory, he is widely regarded as making
substantial contributions to the field of tectonics and considerable
influence in the initial acceptance of continental drift over a static model.

In 1946, he became the founding professor of geology at the University
of Tasmania. He retired from this position 30 years later in 1976. In the
Australia Day Honours list of 1977, Carey was awarded the Officer of the
Order of Australia for his services to the field of geology. He, and a small
number of other researchers, continued to support and investigate
expanding earth models.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Warren_Carey


All this was before the era of computer anination, and if Carey
had access to that technology to depict his theory, he would have won
that debate. Neal Adams has served us all very well by rendering the
3D graphics, which are compelling.

In trying to get through to people about this the only thing I can suggest
is to refuse to let them evade the way the continents clearly fit together
on a smaller Earth. That's the bottom line on this. So how do THEY explain
that undeniable fact --which clearly applies to the Earth, the Moon
and Mars.

The onus is on them to explain how Earth's broken pieces of
continental crockery can be glued back together into a perfect Vase
by shrinking the planet! Their willful blindness to unambiguous, visible
3D facts is their problem, not yours.

Here's a website which goes into the issue in full detail:

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http://eearthk.com/Expand.html


Here's another site:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/6520/

Here's a site with an Online version of Carey's book on this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/8098/3.htm

Here's more Expanding Earth links & resources:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/8098/2.htm

If any of these sites don't come up because of Geocities traffic limits,then
paste the URL into Google and view the Google cache version instead


This audio is about more than just Expanding Earth - which I mentioned
only in passing, and I've set up a discussion thread for it in the Understanding
Our Reality
section of the forum HERE. But your experience does show
something very interesting.

That is:
people will deny the evidence of their own eyes if the authority figures
on whom they have a dependency relationship tell them it's not there!

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe thing were different back then



http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/04/090428-giant-pterosaurs-fly.html

Giant Pterosaurs Couldn't Fly, Study Suggests
Tony McNicol in Tokyo
for National Geographic News
April 28, 2009

Giant pterosaurs, colossal winged reptiles that lived alongside the dinosaurs, have long been considered the heaviest animals ever to take to the skies.

But new research suggests that the notion of giant pterosaurs soaring over Earth simply doesn't fly.




Based on the weights and body sizes of modern birds, a new study finds that animals heavier than 90 pounds (41 kilograms) with wingspans greater than 16.7 feet (5.1 meters) wouldn't be able to flap fast enough to stay aloft.

The conclusion casts serious doubt on the flying ability of large pterosaurs such as Quetzalcoatlus, thought to be one of the largest airborne animals of all time.

The late-Cretaceous creature may have weighed up to 551 pounds (250 kilograms) and had up to a 34.1-foot (10.4-meter) wingspan—nearly as wide as a schoolbus is long.

"I think that the giant pterosaurs could not stay aloft in an environment similar to the present," said study leader Katsufumi Sato, an associate professor at the University of Tokyo's Ocean Research Institute.

Even if they could stay up, the bulky beasts would have had trouble getting off the ground in the first place, Sato said.

"Takeoff is the hardest task. I suppose they could not take off using only muscular efforts."

Setting Limits

Sato, who is also a National Geographic Society emerging explorer, journeyed to the southern Indian Ocean to study the world's largest bird, the wandering albatross, and four smaller bird species. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News.)

All five species are considered to be soaring birds—flyers that use a strategy of gliding punctuated by sporadic flapping, as pterosaurs are generally thought to have flown.

The researcher outfitted 26 birds with tiny accelerometers, which collected data on their flapping speeds from takeoff to landing.

Comparing the data across species, Sato found that the flapping speeds required for a bird to take off and then stay cruising are linked to its body size.





He and his team calculate that 22 pounds (10 kilograms)—the weight of a large wandering albatross—is the "pragmatic limit" for safe and sustainable flight in variable wind conditions.

Sato's findings, appearing tomorrow in the journal PLoS ONE, also suggest that, in theory, a soaring flyer can weigh no more than 90 pounds (41 kilograms) with a wingspan no wider than 16.7 feet (5.1 meters).

Swimming Pterosaurs?

Other scientists are not quite convinced that Sato's research means large pterosaurs couldn't get airborne.

"One possibility is that Sato's findings don't really apply to pterosaurs or even to all birds," suggested Davin Unwin, a paleobiologist at the University of Leicester in the U.K.

For example, Argentavis, a giant bird thought to have existed six million years ago, had a wingspan of 20 feet (6 meters) and seems to have been able to fly, Unwin said.

What's more, Unwin said, giant pterosaur fossils all seem to have extraordinarily thin bone walls, which could mean the animals were lighter than their size would suggest.

Makoto Manabe, a senior scientist at the National Museum of Nature and Science in Tokyo, also thinks it's possible that pterosaurs were simply lighter than we currently think.

Or, if pterosaurs couldn't fly, Manabe wonders whether they might have been swimmers, "using their wings as fins like penguins."

"Having said that," he added, "their wings do not look very efficient at swimming."

According to study leader Sato, it's possible heavy pterosaurs overcame their difficulties during takeoff by launching themselves from high places such as trees or cliffs.

But if pterosaurs really were capable of sustained flight, "we must think about the possibility of drastic change in other environmental factors, such as much lighter gravity or much denser air over geological time," he said.

Biggest Critic

In general, Sato thinks the reactions from paleontologists have been "not so negative," despite the fact that his conclusions would bring huge pterosaurs abruptly down to Earth.

He is expecting his biggest critic to be much closer to home.

"My six-year-old son, Takuto, is a dinosaur freak," he said, "and will never agree with my findings."

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