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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile.... Al Gore has just predicted that the
North Polar Ice Cap will disappear in five years.


Gore was speaking to a German audience in mid-December,
2008 when he made the loony-tune forecast.

Yeah Al. Sure it will disappear. Cos' it will have relocated
to North America and Northern Europe! A process that
seems to have already begun. Brrrrrrrr!
Laughing Laughing

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Al Gore: The North Polar Ice Cap
Will Disappear in 5 Years


Even as Gore makes his wild prediction, the sunspot activity has again
trailed off to zero, after a brief flurry of spots in the fall of 2008.

A newly-published paper by the University of New England’s Dr Robert
Baker --who says he is not a climate change skeptic, warns we could, in
fact, be entering a prolonged period of minimal sunspot activity which
could dip global temperatures for a decade.

A U.S. Senate Minority Report in mid-December noted that more
than 650 scientists dissent over man-made global warming claims.


This new 231-page U.S. Senate Minority Report -- updated from 2007’s
groundbreaking report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about
the so-called global warming “consensus” -- features the skeptical voices
of over 650 prominent international scientists, including many current and
former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC.
This updated report includes an additional 250 (and growing) scientists
and climate researchers since the initial release in December 2007. The
over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN
scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for
Policymakers.

“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.”
- Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

READ ON: HERE

Link to Full Printable PDF Report

With some justification, Christopher Booker writing in the
UK Daily Telegraph says that 2008 was the year man-made
global warming was disproved:


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2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved

By Christopher Booker
Last Updated: 4:28PM GMT 31 Dec 2008

Looking back over my columns of the past 12 months, one of
their major themes was neatly encapsulated by two recent items
from The Daily Telegraph.


The first, on May 21, headed "Climate change threat to Alpine ski resorts",
reported that the entire Alpine "winter sports industry" could soon "grind
to a halt for lack of snow". The second, on December 19, headed "The
Alps have best snow conditions in a generation" , reported that this
winter's Alpine snowfalls "look set to beat all records by New Year's Day".

Easily one of the most important stories of 2008 has been all the evidence
suggesting that this may be looked back on as the year when there was a
turning point in the great worldwide panic over man-made global
warming. Just when politicians in Europe and America have been adopting
the most costly and damaging measures politicians have ever proposed,
to combat this supposed menace, the tide has turned in three significant
respects.

First, all over the world, temperatures have been dropping in a way
wholly unpredicted by all those computer models which have been used
as the main drivers of the scare. Last winter, as temperatures plummeted,
many parts of the world had snowfalls on a scale not seen for decades.

This winter, with the whole of Canada and half the US under snow,
looks likely to be even worse. After several years flatlining, global
temperatures have dropped sharply enough to cancel out much of their
net rise in the 20th century.

Ever shriller and more frantic has become the insistence of the warmists,
cheered on by their army of media groupies such as the BBC, that the
last 10 years have been the "hottest in history" and that the North Pole
would soon be ice-free – as the poles remain defiantly icebound and
those polar bears fail to drown. All those hysterical predictions that we
are seeing more droughts and hurricanes than ever before have
infuriatingly failed to materialise.

Even the more cautious scientific acolytes of the official orthodoxy now
admit that, thanks to "natural factors" such as ocean currents,
temperatures have failed to rise as predicted (although they plaintively
assure us that this cooling effect is merely "masking the underlying
warming trend", and that the temperature rise will resume worse than
ever by the middle of the next decade).

Secondly, 2008 was the year when any pretence that there was a
"scientific consensus" in favour of man-made global warming collapsed.


At long last, as in the Manhattan Declaration last March, hundreds of
proper scientists, including many of the world's most eminent climate
experts, have been rallying to pour scorn on that "consensus" which was
only a politically engineered artefact, based on ever more blatantly
manipulated data and computer models programmed to produce no more
than convenient fictions.

Thirdly, as banks collapsed and the global economy plunged into its worst
recession for decades, harsh reality at last began to break in on those
self-deluding dreams which have for so long possessed almost every
politician in the western world. As we saw in this month's Poznan
conference, when 10,000 politicians, officials and "environmentalists"
gathered to plan next year's "son of Kyoto" treaty in Copenhagen,
panicking politicians are waking up to the fact that the world can no
longer afford all those quixotic schemes for "combating climate change"
with which they were so happy to indulge themselves in more comfortable
times.

Suddenly it has become rather less appealing that we should divert
trillions of dollars, pounds and euros into the fantasy that we could reduce
emissions of carbon dioxide by 80 per cent. All those grandiose projects
for "emissions trading", "carbon capture", building tens of thousands more
useless wind turbines, switching vast areas of farmland from producing
food to "biofuels", are being exposed as no more than enormously
damaging and futile gestures, costing astronomic sums we no longer
possess.

As 2009 dawns, it is time we in Britain faced up to the genuine crisis now
fast approaching from the fact that – unless we get on very soon with
building enough proper power stations to fill our looming "energy gap" -
within a few years our lights will go out and what remains of our economy
will judder to a halt. After years of infantile displacement activity, it is
high time our politicians – along with those of the EU and President
Obama's US – were brought back with a mighty jolt into contact with the
real world.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Rescanned and retouched cover illustration from a favorite book, "Ice" by Arnold Federbush, 1978. No deep science there, just a great read and an impressively researched vision of aftermath for a quick-onset cooling event. Also a fine view of the Twin Towers from uptown as they appeared in '78 prior to the ugly squatitude that was Building Seven.



Leery that HL BFN 01-Jan-2007 Yellowstone has decided to ring in the new year with a swarm of quakes clustered in the lake basin. Among other factors an eruption would deepen the cooling cycle.

Just returning after an offline hibernation of poverty, homelessness and general circumstance ... good to see you again Fintan ... and BFN crewe: staunchly heralding the skid demons of the day.

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Parachutes are like minds.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Hocus Locus:
Just returning after an offline hibernation of poverty,
homelessness and general circumstance ...

Ouch! Glad you managed to survive that dude.
If it's any consolation, you wouldn't believe how many
of the crew here hit the financial wall during the year.
Called suffering for your art, I suppose.

2008 sukd. Glad it's over.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834

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Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.


Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's snowing in Spain at sea level!
It's snowing here! It never snows here! Shocked
Well, actually, it has once in about the last 20 years. Normally it rains all the time. Once it rained for 7 months without stopping - El Niño.
But La Niña...

Just in case things get really bad and the Ice Age comes on, here's some handy tips from an Old Inuit Elder for when the "shit hits the fan" as it were! Laughing

Quote:

Wade Davis: an Inuit elder and his shit knife
Video - at about 19 mins.



http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/wade_davis_on_endangered_cultures.html

From Boing Boing:-
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/26/wade-davis-an-inuit.html

The Inuit didn’t fear the cold; they took advantage of it. During the 1950s the Canadian government forced the Inuit into settlements. A family from Arctic Bay told me this fantastic story of their grandfather who refused to go. The family, fearful for his life, took away all of his tools and all of his implements, thinking that would force him into the settlement. But instead, he just slipped out of an igloo on a cold Arctic night, pulled down his caribou and sealskin trousers, and defecated into his hand. As the feces began to freeze, he shaped it into the form of an implement. And when the blade started to take shape, he put a spray of saliva along the leading edge to sharpen it. That’s when what they call the “shit knife” took form. He used it to butcher a dog. Skinned the dog with it. Improvised a sled with the dog’s rib cage, and then, using the skin, he harnessed up an adjacent living dog. He put the shit knife in his belt and disappeared into the night.


It's almost certainly not true, but a great story none the less and just in case, we'll bear it in mind!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James D wrote:
Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834

Quote:
Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.


Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.
...


Oddly enough, that page no longer loads. Perhaps it is being "reworked"
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit slow and takes a bit of time, but just in case here it is in full.
It doesn't appear to have been "reworked" :-

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Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.


Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.

The data is being reported by the University of Illinois's Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions.

Each year, millions of square kilometers of sea ice melt and refreeze. However, the mean ice anomaly -- defined as the seasonally-adjusted difference between the current value and the average from 1979-2000, varies much more slowly. That anomaly now stands at just under zero, a value identical to one recorded at the end of 1979, the year satellite record-keeping began.

Sea ice is floating and, unlike the massive ice sheets anchored to bedrock in Greenland and Antarctica, doesn't affect ocean levels. However, due to its transient nature, sea ice responds much faster to changes in temperature or precipitation and is therefore a useful barometer of changing conditions.

Earlier this year, predictions were rife that the North Pole could melt entirely in 2008. Instead, the Arctic ice saw a substantial recovery. Bill Chapman, a researcher with the UIUC's Arctic Center, tells DailyTech this was due in part to colder temperatures in the region. Chapman says wind patterns have also been weaker this year. Strong winds can slow ice formation as well as forcing ice into warmer waters where it will melt.

Why were predictions so wrong? Researchers had expected the newer sea ice, which is thinner, to be less resilient and melt easier. Instead, the thinner ice had less snow cover to insulate it from the bitterly cold air, and therefore grew much faster than expected, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

In May, concerns over disappearing sea ice led the U.S. to officially list the polar bear a threatened species, over objections from experts who claimed the animal's numbers were increasing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[color=Dark Red]Cold Sweat[/color] News Roundup:
Quote:
The oceans have been cooling since 2003.
Sea ice is growing at the fastest pace on record.
A rare 50 year arctic blast is cooling the west coast.
There are growing fears of a coming freeze worse than the ice age.

Alaskan Sea Glaciers are advancing for the first time in 250 years.
And, for the second straight year the Earth is, in fact, cooling... not warming.


This US Climate Map October 2007-November 2008 shows that temperatures
are well below normal throughout the US this year.


Cold Sweat Highlights:

Eiffel Tower closed as snow blankets Europe and Great Britain
could be in the grip of its hardest winter for decades
as temperatures struggle to climb above freezing.


Antarctica Records Record High Ice Cap Growth

South America Has Coldest Winter in a 90 Years

Iraqis See First Snow in 100 Years As Sign of Peace

Worst Snowstorms in a Decade in China Cause Rioting

Jerusalem Grinds to a Halt As Rare Snowstorm Blasts City

Worst Snowstorms in 50 Years Continue to Cripple China

China Suffers Coldest Winter in 100 Years

Pakistan Suffers Lowest Temps in 70 Years-- 260 Dead

Record Cold Hits Central Asia-- 654 Dead in Afghanistan

Severe Weather Kills Dozens in Kashmir

Tajikistan Crisis!! Coldest Winter in 25 Years!

Record Cold Wave Blasts Mumbai, India

Snow and Ice in San Diego?

Wisconsin Snowfall Record Shattered

The Disappearing Arctic Ice Is Back And It's Thick

Turkey's snowiest winter continues.

Record Cold & Snow Blankets Acropolis in Greece (Video)

Longest Ever Cold Spell Kills Cattle & Rice in Vietnam

Most Snow Cover Over North America Since 1966

Australia Suffers Through Coldest Summer in 50 Years

Record Snowfall Slams Ohio River Valley

New Data Gives Global Warming the Cold Shoulder

Global Cooling Causes Armed Clashes in Canada

Snake Oil Salesman Admits to Ca$hing In on Global Warming Hysteria

New Research Claims Earth Sliding Into an Ice Age

Blizzard Blasts South Dakota-- 4 Feet of Snow Reported

An Inconvenient Debate... Czech Pres. Challenges Gore On Warming

Record Snow Blankets Spokane, Washington In June!

Peru Declares Emergency-- Cold Kills 61 Children & 5,000 Alpacas

Arctic Sea Ice Levels Are Up By 1,000,000 Square Kilometers

Denver Breaks 118 Year-Old Cold Record-- Arctic Ice Refuses to Melt

NASA Reports Bogus Global Warming Numbers- Again

Goracle: Mayan Civilization Collapsed Because of Climate Change, Too

Global Warming Predictions Overestimated-- Its a Hoax

It's Snowing in the Desert But Gore Warns the North Pole Is Melting

CNN Meteorologist Says GW Theory 'Arrogant' (Video)

Ice Comes Early to Lake Superior For First Time in 17 Years

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cold Sweat
News Roundup:

Quote:
The oceans have been cooling since 2003.
Sea ice is growing at the fastest pace on record.
A rare 50 year arctic blast is cooling the west coast.
There are growing fears of a coming freeze worse than the ice age.

Alaskan Sea Glaciers are advancing for the first time in 250 years.
And, for the second straight year the Earth is, in fact, cooling... not warming.


This US Climate Map October 2007-November 2008 shows that temperatures
are well below normal throughout the US this year.


Cold Sweat Highlights:

Eiffel Tower closed as snow blankets Europe and Great Britain
could be in the grip of its hardest winter for decades
as temperatures struggle to climb above freezing.


Antarctica Records Record High Ice Cap Growth

South America Has Coldest Winter in a 90 Years

Iraqis See First Snow in 100 Years As Sign of Peace

Worst Snowstorms in a Decade in China Cause Rioting

Jerusalem Grinds to a Halt As Rare Snowstorm Blasts City

Worst Snowstorms in 50 Years Continue to Cripple China

China Suffers Coldest Winter in 100 Years

Pakistan Suffers Lowest Temps in 70 Years-- 260 Dead

Record Cold Hits Central Asia-- 654 Dead in Afghanistan

Severe Weather Kills Dozens in Kashmir

Tajikistan Crisis!! Coldest Winter in 25 Years!

Record Cold Wave Blasts Mumbai, India

Snow and Ice in San Diego?

Wisconsin Snowfall Record Shattered

The Disappearing Arctic Ice Is Back And It's Thick

Turkey's snowiest winter continues.

Record Cold & Snow Blankets Acropolis in Greece (Video)

Longest Ever Cold Spell Kills Cattle & Rice in Vietnam

Most Snow Cover Over North America Since 1966

Australia Suffers Through Coldest Summer in 50 Years

Record Snowfall Slams Ohio River Valley

New Data Gives Global Warming the Cold Shoulder

Global Cooling Causes Armed Clashes in Canada

Snake Oil Salesman Admits to Ca$hing In on Global Warming Hysteria

New Research Claims Earth Sliding Into an Ice Age

Blizzard Blasts South Dakota-- 4 Feet of Snow Reported

An Inconvenient Debate... Czech Pres. Challenges Gore On Warming

Record Snow Blankets Spokane, Washington In June!

Peru Declares Emergency-- Cold Kills 61 Children & 5,000 Alpacas

Arctic Sea Ice Levels Are Up By 1,000,000 Square Kilometers

Denver Breaks 118 Year-Old Cold Record-- Arctic Ice Refuses to Melt

NASA Reports Bogus Global Warming Numbers- Again

Goracle: Mayan Civilization Collapsed Because of Climate Change, Too

Global Warming Predictions Overestimated-- Its a Hoax

It's Snowing in the Desert But Gore Warns the North Pole Is Melting

CNN Meteorologist Says GW Theory 'Arrogant' (Video)

Ice Comes Early to Lake Superior For First Time in 17 Years

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: hocus and the latest roundup Reply with quote

Happy New Year to you Hocus, nice to see you back. I hope 2008 is better for you. Interestingly, the crap price of oil combined with the chaos in the capital markets has led to my temporary non-employment looking for the stuff in western Canada. Should get better later in the year, fingers crossed.

The latest roundup is very interesting. Thanks for posting that FD. It confirms what I have been arguing for a long time - that is, the Earth's weather is chaotic and self-regulating. The data and models that the IPCC and Gore-ites have used to argue for first global warming and now "climate change" are manipulated to give the answers they want. Fortunately for us, the Earth's systems are proving them to be wrong.

cheers,
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's FREEEEZING here in the states. Even in New England where we are used to it.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/weather/01/14/winter.storms/index.html?iref=topnews

Bitter cold to linger across U.S. through weekend
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