Audio - TranceBusting 2009 with Dr. Michael Ellner

[Fintan]

[EddieT]

I've liked Ellner ever since I heard him here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UGtWGhgMdA&feature=related

[RedMahna]

Holy shit - Fintan, yeah you are right about interactions and a group's expectations.
Goddamn - the paradox is about our ala carte lives and yet having to be, think, speak, behave, and look like others in the bigger picture.
It's so cruel.
What I really hate about it is that one can starve for not playing along in certain circles. Including work, most definitely.
I try, I try. But my true self inevitably makes itself known. Thank goodness. (The starving part does suck, tho.)

On the other hand, I was at a McDonalds the other day, and it was crowded. A family of five or six were ordering infront of me, and the mother asked the smallest child who was in the arms of her older sister what she wanted. The little girl knew the menu - I mean she knew exactly what the fuck McDonalds makes in terms of the names of their brand items. Jesus Christ, I have to stare at the menu and ask myself "What the fuck is the difference between the different hambugers?" This little kid is not even old enough to freaking read yet. And then when I get my food 15 whole minutes later, it wasn't what I ordered. The clerk looked at the receipt and said, "That's what's on here." Yeah, but that's not what came out of my mouth when I ordered it.
So, sometimes I figure - "What's the use?" These people don't want to have a clue because a clue is too difficult. And then I go off on an Ayn Rand tangent the rest of the day.

Red

[Neil]

Hi all,
Another cracker Fintan and welcome back to audioland, looking forward to more shows this year.
Having been itching to post on various topics (Africon, Mumbai, ’Recession’ Inc. Gaza etc.) since last doing so on the G8\G20 development last November but something was stopping me.

Then I realised why I didn’t at the end of this latest audio, when you pointed out how we have been reacting to events for the past 7 years and now the cycle of expansion has begun. Right on!

I really liked the Thomas Kinsella poem at the end, a nice touch brudder...
What Kinsella says about foreign investment in Ireland in 1968-1969 has resonances today. I don’t know if you were watching Willie O’Dea on RTE six o’clock news yesterday but his bullshit explanation of the 1,900 jobs lost at Dell yesterday in Limerick and potential 10,000 knock on effect showed the establishment and their economic policies for what they are; economic prostitution.

http://www.rte.ie/news/index.html

Listened to the ’Ireland and the Pharaohs’ audio again last week and it resonates again with what you said about human creativity in today’s audio. Imagine what Ireland could achieve if we weren’t held back by quick buck economic policies. We’d be so well capitalised in all senses that the current ’readjustment’ would be a cakewalk. Instead we have the logical results of the Nice Treaty (Dell and others moving to Poland to screw them and others further afield).

Looks like ’Lisbon Treaty Episode II- The Superstate gets its arse kicked again’ will be hitting our screens sometime in October 2009..... ’Humourosity saved the cat...’

Irish voters have plenty of other ammunition to throw at their government by then (a record 71% rise in unemployment in 2008, further upcoming spending cuts on health and education, continued implosion of the housing ’market’ etc.)

Anyways as Michael Ellner said thanks for using your technical expertise for creating this free space and ’wedge’community.
Good time of year as well to reflect on events and move forward, will you be tying in any of the Mayan calendar material again into further audios?

Am burning some good Finnish silver birch to get us through 2009 and keep the bills down. It’s amazing the stuff you realise gazing into the flames on Nordic nights ; we have passed the solstice, the tide has turned. Take this year as an opportunity to value and celebrate what you have.

While we are in a minority in terms of our awareness of the current situation, there is a growing number who are bang-on in terms of single issues and and it is this majority (e.g. Irish EU-Treaty voters) that are beginning to connect these single issues into the web (Shell to Sea, Dell etc.), i.e. the matrix that has been constructed at BFN over the past years.

Will digest again Michael Ellner’s words and terminology new to me and get back to ye. It will definitely require reexamination of 9\11 and globalisation (looking forward to The Verdict) etc.
I believe in framing events as they unfold to form a geopolitical perspective (Mumbai and the India-Pakistan escalation, Russia cutting off gas, Israel\Obama and the Gaza ’Gambit’ ).

Bring on the new Tree Incarnation material, let’s roll people!

Oh yeah and more Irish Poetry!

[Mike Cann]

listening right now, thanks for this one Fintan!

I agree once you make a big change in your thinking, it does carry over. Breaking through the dissociative trance.

[Mike Cann]

"Life experience" I see that with cannabis and how when you remind people of what they already know and experience, it does shake that programming of just say no in this case.

Americans support cannabis reform today because they have had a lifetime with it and know from experience, it isn't what the reefer mad preach.

I know you were focusing on HIV but like how this was open to basically all the BS out there and how do you reach out to people to get them to throw off the programming.

[atm]