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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the core schematic in the image above is admittdly oversimplified.

If the photos above were taken before the doorways at the end of
the corridoors were hung --then we would get light coming thru.

But there were clearly lift shafts, stairs, corridoors etc.
And all these did not simply hang in mid air.

Either way, that makes for a lot of concrete & steel in the core.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok - I think I see - yeah, that is confusing.

The top of Christopher's diagram is misleading, but I think if you continue the hallway crisscrosses all the way up to the top , and put an elevator shaft down the middle, then then from a distance it looks like four rectangular box columns rather than one thick block.

I think the light is shining through the hallways that ran through the core, or at least thats what the caption said, so maybe that's what I saw. But I think the core, with hallways and elevator shaft looks from a distance like four separate cores, but I think they all function together in supporting the building.

Then again, I've never built a sand castle that's lasted more than 10 minutes and I know zero about actual construction - just so you understand my qualifications for comment.

Maybe I can entice Christopher to explain here in more detail.

I told you those pictures were kewl!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeepLogos wrote:
Jerry Fletcher wrote:
The plane impacts had no causal relationship to the tower collapses.

The WTC towers were built with explosive material embedded in the concrete core, designed to demolish the building in a top down sequence when properly triggered.



This correlates with the many evacuations in the weeks prior to 9/11.


DeepLogos,

I've only heard of the powerdown on the weekend before. Do you have any links for the consideration of evacuations.

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Info specific to WTC 1 via the documentary, "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers". WTC 2 had differences in its concrete core.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one is to believe that explosive charges were either built into the structure or put there during its lifetime, I think people would only have to check to see if everything was working properly. This is of course just conjecture, but as I think that the takedown of the towers must have been in the planning for quite some time, it is plausible to assume this. At some time, some kind of explosives must have been put there to account for the explosive nature of the collapse (plus witness accounts). In this regard I am just throwing out a few hypothesis'.

As for the evacuations it is mainly the many reports of evacuations the preceding weekend (powerdown and men in overalls moving into the building) as told by Scott Forbes (YouTube link) of Fiduciary Trust on the 97th floor of the south tower.
(mind you, Fiduciary Trust had scheduled a emergency drill for that day according to the NY Times)
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9/11 - Fiduciary Trust, located in the south tower, had scheduled an emergency drill for the day.

City Releases Tapes of 911 Calls From Sept. 11 Attack
NY Times & USA Today

"Just before the south tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m., a spurt of calls reached the 911 operators. One of these was from Shimmy Biegeleisen, who worked for Fiduciary Trust in the south tower on computer systems. He was on the 97th floor where, by chance, an emergency drill had been scheduled for that day." - NY Times (03/31/06)


Herbst/ Thorn" (I know...) wrote:
Forbes stated that Fiduciary Trust was one of the WTC’s first occupants after it was erected, and that a “power-down” had never been initiated prior to this occasion. He also stated that his company put forth a huge investment in time and resources to take down their computer systems due to the deliberate power outage. This process, Forbes recalled, began early Saturday morning (September 8th) and continued until mid-Sunday afternoon (September 9th) – approximately 30 hours. As a result of having its electricity cut, the WTC’s security cameras were rendered inoperative, as were its I.D. systems, and elevators to the upper floors.

Forbes did stress, though, that there was power to the WTC’s lower floors, and that there were plenty of engineers going in-and-out of the WTC who had free access throughout the building due to its security system being knocked out. In an e-mail to journalist John Kaminski, author of The Day America Died (Sisyphus Press) and America’s Autopsy Report (Dandelion Books), Forbes wrote: “Without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors, and many, many ‘engineers’ coming in and out of the tower.”

Forbes didn’t think much of these occurrences at the time, and said that he worked until Monday morning (September 10th) to get all the computer systems back online. Due to his IT-related duties on Saturday & Sunday, Forbes had Tuesday, September 11th off, and thus watched the World Trade Center towers collapse from his apartment. While doing so, he recalled, “I was convinced immediately that something was happening related to the weekend work.”

In addition, Forbes says there were other peculiarities revolving around this unreported event, including:

1) Fiduciary employees trapped between the 90-97th floors of the South Tower told family members (via cell-phone calls) that they were hearing “bomb-like explosions” throughout the towers.

2) Video cameras positioned atop the World Trade Center which were used to feed daily images to local television stations were inexplicably inoperative that morning.

3) A Fiduciary employee who was on one of the lower floors and escaped immediately after the first (North) tower was struck, reported that he was amazed by the large number of FBI agents that were already on the streets surrounding the WTC complex only minutes after the initial strike.

4) Last but not least, Ann Tatlock, CEO of Fiduciary Trust and now a board member of Franklin Templeton, had just arrived at a conference hosted by Warren Buffet at the Offutt Air Force Base (home of the U.S. Strategic Command Headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska) when the 9-11 attacks took place. Coincidentally, later that day President George W. Bush flew into this very same base on Air Force One for “security reasons.” Even more chilling are the Offutt AFB ties to the CIA’s MK ULTRA experiments, Project Monarch, the Franklin Cover-Up, and the diabolical practices of Michael Aquino. (Type any of these words into a search engine for more information.)

In the end, Forbes says that even though these disclosures could jeopardize his current employment, he has stepped forward because, “I have mailed this information to many people, including the 9/11 Commission, but no one seems to be registering these facts.”


Also Ben Fountain of Firemans Fund reported of evacuations:
Killtown wrote:
September 12, 2001 - Ben Fountain, who worked in the 47th floor of the south tower, says weeks before the attacks they had an "unusual" amount of evacuations from the WTC and says he thinks "they had an inkling something was going on."

"Ben Fountain, 42, a financial analyst with Fireman's Fund, was coming out of the Chambers Street Station, headed for his office on the 47th floor of the south tower.
How could they let this happen? They knew this building was a target. Over the past few weeks we'd been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on." - People (09/12/01) [Reprinted with: WayBack Machine]

(See also: September 6, 2001 - A two week heightened security alert at the WTC is lifted and bomb-sniffing dogs there were abruptly removed)


I have read a few other accounts, but I need to find more sources first...

Cursory as it pertains to evacuations (prior to 9/11):
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire95/PDF/f95137.pdf#search=%22power%20down%20wtc%20filetype%3Apdf%22

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: New topic? "WTC - Evacuations/Drills/Powerdowns" o Reply with quote

DL -- Thanks for this info. I think we should have a new topic for this and anything else anyone can find - "WTC - Evacuations/Drills/Powerdowns" or something like that. I've posted this in the suggestions thread here.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Fintan: Why two different types of strike? Was the type of damage inflicted
on the towers irrelevant to their imminent collapse? Was there some
other reason?

Only in the last couple of days did I recall that I previously worked out
a reason why the towers might have been struck at different heights
and angles.

One plausible line of enquiry is that the floors struck were determined
by the availability of access to plant explosives in floors just above
and/or below those impact points.

In other words, there were "friendly" occupants of the adjacent floors,
or some other reason why explosives were easier to plant on the
adjacent floors.

Maybe Fiduciary as referenced above. (cross-post in Drills Evacuations topic)

I know the floor charts are out there.
Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTC 1 & 2 occupants:

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North Tower (Tower 1):

Floor 110
Channel WPIX, WCBS, WBIS, WNJU, WNYW, CNN Satellite Dishes & Antennas Cable/Television
Floor 109
Floor 108
Floor 107
World Trade Club
Greatest Bar on Earth
Floor 106
Windows on the World
Floor 105

Cantor Fitzgerald Securities

Investments
Floor 104
Channel 4 (NBC) Cable/Television
Cantor Fitzgerald Securities Investments
Floor 103
Cantor Fitzgerald Securities Investments
Floor 102
Cantor Fitzgerald Securities Investments
The Nishi-Nippon Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 101
Cantor Fitzgerald Securities Investments
Kidder Peabody & Co.
Floor 100
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 99
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 98
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 97
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 96
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 95
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 94
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Floor 93
Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Fred Alger Management Investments
Floor 92
Carr Futures
Floor 91
American Bureau of Shipping Engineering
Floor 90
The Chugoku Bank, Ltd. Financial Institutions
American TCC Int'l Group Investments
Floor 89
Drinker Biddle & Reath Attorneys
Mutual International Forwarding Transportation
Strategic Communications Telecommunication
Wai Gao Qiao USA Business Consultants
Wall Street Planning
Metropolitan Life Insurance Insurance Agencies
CIIC Group, Ltd. Investments
Daehan International Investments
Broad USA Wholesalers
Floor 88

Floor 87
May Davis Group Investments
Floor 86
Trading Technologies Software
Julien J. Studley, Inc. Real Estate
Floor 85
Thermo Electron
SMW Trading Corp. Investments
Floor 84
KITC Investments
Unicom Capital Advisors Investments
Temenos USA, Inc. Wholesalers
San-In Godo Bank Ltd. Financial Institutions
LG Securities America, Inc. Investments
David Peterson Attorneys
Bright China Capital, Ltd. Investments
Floor 83
General Telecommunications
Taipei Bank Financial Institutions
Lava Trading
Global Crossings Holdings Computer Services
eMeritus Communications Telecommunication
Floor 82
NY Metro Transportation Government school
Floor 81
New Continental Enterprises Transportation
Network Plus Telecommunication
Bank of America Financial Institutions
Floor 80
Noga Commodities Overseas, Inc. Investments
The Beast.Com Computer Services
RLI Insurance Company Insurance Agencies
Shizuoka Bank Ltd. Financial Institutions
Agricor Commodities Corp. Investments
Intrust Investment Realty
Floor 79
First Liberty Investment Group Investments
Okato Shoji Company, Ltd. Computer Services
Securant Technologies Computer Services
Nikko Securities Financial Institutions
International Office Centers Business Services
Daynard & Van Thunen Co. Insurance Agencies
Floor 78
Hyundai Securities Co. Investments
Korea Local Authorities Foundation Government
ThinkPath Employment Agencies
Geiger & Geiger Attorneys
Cheng Cheng Enterprises Holding Inc Retailers
Geiger & Geiger Law Firms
Traders Access Center Investments
Pacrim Trading & Shipping Transportation
Cedar Capital Management Associates
Meridian Ventures Holding
International Trade Center Public Relations
Baltic Oil Corporation
Avenir, Inc. Computer Services
Floor 77
World Trade Centers Association Organizations
Jun He Law Office Attorneys
New-ey International Corp. Business Services
Martin Progressive Computer Services
Hal Roth Agency Insurance Agencies
Floor 76

Floor 75

Floor 74

Floor 73

Floor 72

Floor 71

Floor 70

Floor 69

Floor 68

Floor 67

Floor 66

Floor 65

Floor 64

Floor 63
Airport Access Program Financial Institutions
Floor 62

Floor 61

Floor 60
Asahi Bank, Ltd. Financial Institutions
Floor 59
Sidley Austin, Brown & Wood Attorneys
Floor 58

Floor 57

Floor 56
Sidley Austin, Brown & Wood Attorneys
Floor 55
World Trade Institute
Pace University Government schools
Floor 54
Sidley Austin, Brown & Wood Attorneys
Floor 53
Natural Nydegger Transport Transportation
China Resource Products
Pacrim Trading & Shipping Transportation
Pure Energy Corp. Wholesalers
LoCurto & Funk, Inc. Investments
Keenan Powers & Andrews Attorneys
Bank of Taiwan Financial Institutions
A I G Aviation Brokerage Insurance Agencies
Floor 52
Hill Betts & Nash Attorneys
Temenos USA Wholesalers
The Williams Capital Group
RGL Gallagher PC Accountants
Richard A. Zimmerman Attorneys
Leeds & Morrelli Attorneys
Okasan International Investments
Howly Corporation
Gayer Shyu & Wiesel Investments
Bramax Manufacturing Wholesalers
Floor 51
C & P Press Business Services
AT&T Corporation Telecommunication
Floor 50
Dai-Ichi Kangyo Trust Co. Trusts
Floor 49
Dai-Ichi Kangyo Trust Co. Trusts
Floor 48
Dai-Ichi Kangyo Trust Co. Trusts
Floor 47
G. Z. Stephens Employment Agencies
Quint Amasis Business Services
W.J. Export-Import Wholesalers
Pacific American Co. Wholesalers
American TCC Int'l Group Investments
Floor 46
Meganet Management Consultants Computer Services
Suggested Open Systems Computer Services
Suntendy America Wholesalers
T&T Enterprises Int.l Miscellaneous
Prospect International
Blue Sky Technologies Computer Services
Sinopec USA Wholesalers
Kanebo Information Systems Corp. Computer Services
J & X Tans International Transportation
Yong Ren America
Auto Imperial Co. Wholesalers
Dahao USA Corp Wholesalers
ASTDC, Inc. Organizations
Floor 45
China Construction Construction
Pure Energy Corp. Wholesalers
Dunavant Commodity Investments
Security Traders Assoc. Organizations
M.A. Katz, CPA Accountants
Fertitta Enterprises
The Company Store Retailers
Sassoons
Employee Merit Employment Agencies
Streamline Capital
SRA
American Lota International Transportation
Floor 44
NFA/GGG, Inc.
N.Y. Society of Security Government school
Floor 43
Mechanical Floor
Floor 42
Mechanical Floor
Floor 41
Mechanical Floor
Floor 40
Lehman Brothers Financial Institutions
Floor 39
Lehman Brothers Financial Institutions
Tai Fook Securities Investments
The Cultural Institutions Retirement Systems Trusts
Xcel Federal Credit Union Financial Institutions
Overseas Union Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 38
Turner Construction Co. Construction
Regional Alliance Small Contractors Construction
Lehman Brothers Financial Institutions
Floor 37
Government of Thailand
Commodity Futures Trading Commission Investments
Floor 36
Kemper Insurance Companies Insurance Agencies
Floor 35
Kemper Insurance Companies Insurance Agencies
Data Transmission Network
Law Office of Anne Pope Attorneys
Floor 34

Floor 33
China Daily Distribution Corp. Business Services
MANAA Trading Group Investments
Data Transmission Network
Koudis International Transportation/Utilities
Serko & Simon Attorneys
Rachel & Associates Manufacturing
Hu Tong International Co. Wholesalers
Golden King Limited Transportation
MIS Service Co.
Berel & Mullen Attorneys
Floor 32
Rohde & Liesenfeld Transportation
Chang HWA Commercial Bank Financial Institutions
Banco LatinoAmericano de Exportaciones Financial Institutions
Floor 31
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Port Authority of NY & NJ Government
Floor 30

Floor 29
World Travel Travel Agencies
China Patent & Trademark Attorneys
Floor 28
Port Authority of NY & NJ Government
Floor 27
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Floor 26
Garban Intercapital Investments
Floor 25
R.H. Wrightson & Assoc. Investments
Geiger & Geiger Law Firms
Garban Intercapital Investments
Floor 24
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Port Authority of NY & NJ Government
Floor 23
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Floor 22
Cheng Xiang Trading USA Computer Services
Tai Fook Securities Investments
MLU Investment
The SCPIE Companies
Kaiser Overseas Inc. Manufacturing
Karoon Capital Management Investments
P. Wolfe Consultants Business Consultants
Gold Sky Inc. Manufacturing
Unicom Capital Advisors Investments
G.C. Services Collection Agencies
Chicago Options Exchange Corp. Investments
Floor 21
United Seamen's Service Social Services
Continental Logistics. Business Services
Tower Computer Service Retailers
Friends Ivory & Sime Investments
Friends Villas Fischer Trust Investments
Lief International USA Manufacturing
Infotech
Roman V. Popik Attorneys
Dr. Tadasu Tokumaru Medical Doctors
Dongwon Securities Co. Investments
Avesta Computer Services, Data Processing
Floor 20
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Floor 19
Port Authority of NY & NJ Government
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Floor 18

Floor 17
Zim-American Israeli Shipping Co. Transportation
Empire Health Choice Insurance Agencies
Floor 16
Zim-American Israeli Shipping Co. Transportation
California Bank & Trust Financial Institutions
Floor 15
Landmark Education Corporation Government
Floor 14
Port Authority of NY & NJ Government
Instinet, Inc. Investments
Dun & Bradstreet Research
Floor 13
Instinet, Inc. Investments
Floor 12

Floor 11
Porcella Vicini & Co. Transportation
Primarch Decision Economics Business Consultants
Bank of America Financial Institutions
Floor 10

Floor 9
Bank of America Financial Institutions
Floor 8
Amerson Group Co., Inc. Organizations
Floor 7
Thai Farmers Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 6

Floor 5
Gayer, Shyu & Wiesel Accountants
Floor 4
Geiger & Geiger Law Firms
Floor 3
Port Authority of NY & NJ Government
Floor 2

Floor 1
Strawberry Retailers
Ann Taylor Loft Retailers
Avis
Olympia Airport Express
Delta Airlines
Link: http://www.sadnews.net/CTZ/0Mem/20010911/WTCN1.htm

According to World Trade Aftermath: http://worldtradeaftermath.com/wta/wtc_info/tenants_by_floor_wtc1.asp


Quote:
South Tower (Tower 2):
Floor 110

Floor 109
Floor 108
Floor 107
Showtime Pictures Business Services
Floor 106
Atlantic Bank of New York Financial Institutions
Floor 105

Floor 104
Sandler O'Neill & Partners Investments
Floor 103

Floor 102

Floor 101

Floor 100
AON Corporation Insurance Agencies
Floor 99
AON Corporation Insurance Agencies
Floor 98

Floor 97
Fiduciary Trust Company International Financial Institutions
Floor 96
Fiduciary Trust Company International Financial Institutions
Floor 95
Fiduciary Trust Company International Financial Institutions
Floor 94
Fiduciary Trust Company International Financial Institutions
Floor 93
Regus Business Centers Employment Agencies
Floor 92
AON Corporation Insurance Agencies
Floor 91
The Washington Group
Raytheon Company Manufacturing
Gibbs & Hill Engineers
Floor 90
Fiduciary Trust Company International Financial Institutions
Floor 89
Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Investments
Floor 88
Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Investments
Floor 87
NY State Department of Taxation & Finance Government
Corporation Service Company
Floor 86
NY State Department of Taxation & Finance Government
Floor 85
Harris Beach & Wilcox, Attorneys
Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Investments
Floor 84
bepaid.com
Floor 83

Floor 82
Fuji Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 81
Fuji Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 80
Fuji Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 79
Fuji Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 78
First Commercial Bank Financial Institutions
Floor 77

Floor 76

Floor 75

Floor 74
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 73

Floor 72

Floor 71

Floor 70

Floor 69

Floor 68

Floor 67

Floor 66

Floor 65

Floor 64

Floor 63

Floor 62

Floor 61

Floor 60

Floor 59
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 58
Dow Jones & Co. Publishers
Floor 57
Dow Jones & Co. Publishers
Floor 56
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 55
Garban Intercapital
Floor 54
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Floor 53
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Floor 52
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Floor 51
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Floor 50
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Floor 49
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Seabury & Smith Insurance Agencies
Floor 48
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Fireman's Fund Insurance Company Insurance Agencies
Floor 47
Guy Carpenter Insurance Agencies
Floor 46
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 45
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 44
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 43
Morgan Stanley Investments
Floor 42
Mechanical Floor
Floor 41
Mechanical Floor
Floor 40
Thacher, Proffitt & Wood Attorneys
Sitailong International USA
Floor 39
Thacher, Proffitt & Wood Attorneys
Floor 38
Thacher, Proffitt & Wood Attorneys
Floor 37

Floor 36
Frenkel & Company Insurance Agencies
Floor 35
Frenkel & Company Insurance Agencies
Floor 34
Oppenheimer Funds Investments
Floor 33
Oppenheimer Funds Investments
Floor 32
Commerzbank Capital Markets Investments
Oppenheimer Funds Investments
Floor 31
Oppenheimer Funds Investments
Floor 30
New York Stock Exchange
Hartford Steam Boiler Insurance Agencies
Floor 29
New York Stock Exchange
Weatherly Securities Corp. Investments
Floor 28
New York Stock Exchange
Law Office of Joseph Bellard Attorneys
Big A Travel Agency Travel Agencies/Tours
Hua Nan Commercial Bank Banks/Financial Institutions
Dempsey, Myers & Company CPA firm
Floor 27

Floor 26
Sun Microsystems Computer Services
Floor 25
Sun Microsystems Computer Services
Floor 24
TD Waterhouse Group Investments
December First Productions
Globe Tour & Travel Travel Agencies
Allstate Insurance Company Insurance Agencies
Sinolion USA
China Chamber of Commerce Organizations
SCOR U.S. Corporation Insurance Agencies
Floor 23
SCOR U.S. Corporation Insurance Agencies
Unistrat Corporation of America Business Consultants
Floor 22
Antal International Employment Agencies
Mancini Duffy Architects
Sinochem American Holdings Investments
Washington Mutual, Inc.
Floor 21
Charoen Pokphand USA Transportation
Adecco SA Employment Agencies
Career Engine Research
Mancini Duffy Architects
Floor 20
Thacher, Proffitt & Wood Attorneys
N.Y. Shipping Association Transportation
Floor 19
N.Y. Shipping Association Transportation
Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor Government
Floor 18
Showtime Pictures Business Services
Chen, Lin, Li, & Jiang, LLP Investments
Professional Assistance & Consulting Business Consultants
Pines Investment
Abad, Castilla & Mallonga Attorneys
Intera Group Inc. Employment Agencies
Caserta & Company
Weiland International Investments
Alliance Consulting Business Consultants
Floor 17
N.Y. Institute of Finance Business Consultants
Floor 16
National Development & Research Institute Research
Floor 15
John W. Loofbourrow Associates Investments
Orient International
Mancini Duffy Architects
John J. McMullen Associates Engineers
James T. Ratner, Law Office of Attorneys
Candia Shipping Wholesalers
Floor 14
Union Bank of California International Financial Institutions
Charna Chemicals, Inc. Manufacturing
Paging Network of New York Telecommunication
Patinka International Business Services
Floor 13

Floor 12
Verizon Communications Telecommunication
EuroBrokers, Inc. Investments
Floor 11
Verizon Communications Telecommunication
Floor 10
Verizon Communications Telecommunication
Floor 9
Verizon Communications Telecommunication
Floor 8

Floor 7

Floor 6

Floor 5

Floor 4

Floor 3

Floor 2

Floor 1
Colortek Kodak Imaging Center :Business Services
Johnston & Murphy
Nichols Foundation :Government/Schools
Xerox Document Company
at Basement :Manufacturing
Link: http://www.sadnews.net/CTZ/0Mem/20010911/WTCS2.htm

According to WorldTrade Afermath: http://worldtradeaftermath.com/wta/wtc_info/tenants_by_floor_wtc2.asp


Further info can also be found at: http://worldtradeaftermath.com/wta/wtc_info/ (including tenants of the other buildings).

This is what I could find as to occupants of the two towers. It seems to be a semi-complete list if some floors weren't vacant? There are some difference between the two sources.

North tower; floors impacted by crash; 94-99; Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Directly above: Cantor Fitzgerald Securities Investments,
Kidder Peabody & Co and Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Directly below: Marsh USA, Inc. Insurance Co.
Fred Alger Management Investments

South tower; floors impacted by crash; 78-84; First Commercial Bank Financial Institutions, Fuji Bank Financial Institutions, bepaid.com
Directly above: Harris Beach & Wilcox, Attorneys Keefe,
Bruyette & Woods Investments (86th floor: NY State Department of Taxation & Finance Government)
Directly below: Vacant?

Sources for impact zones: NFPA
http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf#search=%22impact%20zones%20wtc%22

Fiduciary Trust was one of the first to move into the south tower when it was erected. They lost 86 employees, but not their CEO Anne Tatlock who was in Omaha that day (charity with Warren "Oracle of Omaha" Buffet. I know Forbes reported on the 15th of October 2001 that the planes hit where Fiduciary Trust had their offices. This is not correct.

(I will update later when I find more related info)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting as to WTC generally (cursory):

Port Authority in February 2000 wrote:
NEWS
World Trade Center

22-00: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE , February 14, 2000

PORT AUTHORITY'S WORLD TRADE CENTER WINS REGIONAL AWARD, QUALIFIES FOR 'BEST IN THE WORLD' COMPETITION


The World Trade Center has won the prestigious Middle Atlantic Regional Building of the Year Award, qualifying it to compete this summer for the title of "Best in the World," Port Authority Executive Director Robert E. Boyle announced today.

The award follows a major series of improvements by the Port Authority to key elements of the office complex, including its retail mall, five-acre outdoor plaza and such important building services as electrical and elevator operations. Occupancy is at an all-time high - approximately 94 percent.

The Port Authority's enhancements recently won the building the coveted designation as Middle Atlantic Regional Building of the Year. The award will be presented at an awards ceremony on April 28 at the Copacabana in Manhattan.

The award qualifies the Trade Center for the International Office Building of the Year competition. Winners of the international competition will be announced June 17-20 in San Diego, Calif.

The Office Building of the Year Award - created in 1985 - is the most prestigious and comprehensive program of its kind in the commercial real estate industry, recognizing quality in office buildings and in office building management.

The Trade Center recently won the sought-after Operating Office Building of the Year Award from the Building Owners and Managers Association of New York.

The Trade Center, which consists of two 110-story office towers, four other office buildings and a 22-story hotel, has undergone several recent improvements. They are:

· A $12 million renovation of the five-acre Austin J. Tobin Plaza, located outside the main entrances to the twin towers. Last summer, the Port Authority sponsored a series of free performances on the plaza that drew 250,000 spectators to more than 70 free performances and plans to add new cultural events this summer.

· A dramatic revitalized mall at the World Trade Center with many new shops and restaurants - more than 80 in all. Retailers reported a 26-percent increase in sales last summer.

· An electrical upgrade program to satisfy the projected power requirements of its tenants.

· Comprehensive customer service training for the World Trade Center staff. Trade Center employees attend classes in facility management, ranging from business ethics to customer relations and communications skills.


Could "additional" upgrades have been made as well, if you get my drift? Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: WTC Site Photos - September 13th 2001 Reply with quote

Here's a great set of close-up photos of the World Trade Center site,
reportedly taken on September 13th. I have mirrored them on the
BreakForNews server so we have a permanent copy.

A useful resource for figuring out what happened.

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Sample Pic 1


Sample Pic 2


ALL FULL SIZE PHOTOS:

Photos A: World Trade Center September 13th 2001
http://www.breakfornews.com/offsitearchive/World_Trade_Center_September_13_2001_A.htm

Photos B: World Trade Center September 13th 2001
http://www.breakfornews.com/offsitearchive/World_Trade_Center_September_13_2001_B.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some really "great" WTC photos here, including panorama shots.

http://www.conservationtech.com/MAIN-TOPICS/5-NYC-World-Trade/WTC-Home.htm

Should these be mirrored as well perhaps? Some are rather large (panoramas).

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: 9/11 Design lessons Reply with quote

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Lessons of 9/11 Alter Skyscraper Design

By DAVID B. CARUSO Associated Press Writer

September 6, 2006, 3:02 AM EDT

....Even as ash from the World Trade Center still swirled, it was clear that the high floors of the twin towers had been a deadly trap. Experts wondered if anyone would ever build tall again......

Architects, engineers and builders have split over the value of several possible safety enhancements, including better fireproofing, wider stairwells, and "hardened" elevator shafts that could be used in evacuations.......

No architects are designing their buildings to withstand a jet aircraft's impact.

"To do something like that, you wouldn't want to live in that building. It would be like a fortress. It would be so ungainly looking," Kohn said.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: WTC, Port Authority, Rockefeller and the WTC architect Reply with quote

A Joshua Leinsdorf article about the WTC, the Port Authority, Nelson Rockefeller and the WTC architect.... Here >>
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BTW, this was Peter Eisenman's WTC suggestion (post 9/11-2001)



Well, it doesn't look like it is designed to take the impact of an airliner, it looks like it's about to collapse...

http://www.thecityreview.com/nytimdes.html

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