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Mike Cann
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 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Paul is Dead (The Beatles) |
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You've probably heard that story and maybe seen some of the videos that are out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdJECpjd6Y
How about Paul McCartney is a British agent and never really died but it makes a great cover story because who's going to believe that? Putting out truth with a wild cover that was easy to sew and discredit? |
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dilbert_g
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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We've been around the block with this discussion a few times in the past.
Frankly, it's unclear to me what social management role Paul or The Beatles had on society. Nothing at all like that role of the Laurel Canyon crowd of military-industrial hippies had on the antiwar movement.
If anything, The Beatles' antiwar views carried a certain amount of humanity and respect, they were pretty mainstream. They started out as pretty conservative. I don't think they really popularized LSD that much, maybe smoking pot, but so what. I don't think they created the "hippie movement" and the "generation gap", just pop music.
On the other hand, I was a baby at the time.
If it was an experiment in testing mass public adulation and fainting spells in girls and "a phenomenon" in the guise of musical entertainers (besides Frank Sinatra and Elvis), then ok, fine. I personally don't think there's much buried treasure here, mostly idle speculation. And no, I don't think the Beatles were the anti-Christ or whatever.
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Mike Cann
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm more suspicious of Paul than the rest of the Beatles. But I don't know.
Have you seen the youtube videos by "Iamaphony". Very well done.
Makes me wonder who is behind them. Perhaps another CIA fake? Haha. When things are done let's say to professionally like that, that's when I start wondering. Why would anybody spend so much time and remain anonymous for no profit?
But again, I'm not making any case for supporting them, just curious. Off to track down those old threads. Thanks for heads up.
| dilbert_g wrote: | We've been around the block with this discussion a few times in the past.
Frankly, it's unclear to me what social management role Paul or The Beatles had on society. Nothing at all like that role of the Laurel Canyon crowd of military-industrial hippies had on the antiwar movement.
If anything, The Beatles' antiwar views carried a certain amount of humanity and respect, they were pretty mainstream. They started out as pretty conservative. I don't think they really popularized LSD that much, maybe smoking pot, but so what. I don't think they created the "hippie movement" and the "generation gap", just pop music.
On the other hand, I was a baby at the time.
If it was an experiment in testing mass public adulation and fainting spells in girls and "a phenomenon" in the guise of musical entertainers (besides Frank Sinatra and Elvis), then ok, fine. I personally don't think there's much buried treasure here, mostly idle speculation. And no, I don't think the Beatles were the anti-Christ or whatever.
Love, love me do. You know I'll be true. |
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PatrickSMcNally
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Mike Cann wrote: | | I'm more suspicious of Paul than the rest of the Beatles. |
More about Paul and the others here:
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/contents.htm
The "Paul is dead" story has all the markings of a hoax, but he likely was involved in some trouble-making around John Lennon. |
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johngr
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lonestranger
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Alan Watt claims that the Beatles songbook was owned by Theodor Adorno before it was sold to Michael Jackson. (Adorno being a garden variety evil genius.)
According to Watt, the role the Beatles played was 1) contributing to the breakup of the family by creating separation between children and their parents, and 2) merging east and west by making it cool to practice eastern religions.
He also says that "Sexy Sadie" was written as satire, making fun of the Maharishi whom they caught dallying with a little boy ("...what have you done? You've made a fool of everyone...")
| dilbert_g wrote: | We've been around the block with this discussion a few times in the past.
Frankly, it's unclear to me what social management role Paul or The Beatles had on society. Nothing at all like that role of the Laurel Canyon crowd of military-industrial hippies had on the antiwar movement.
If anything, The Beatles' antiwar views carried a certain amount of humanity and respect, they were pretty mainstream. They started out as pretty conservative. I don't think they really popularized LSD that much, maybe smoking pot, but so what. I don't think they created the "hippie movement" and the "generation gap", just pop music.
On the other hand, I was a baby at the time.
If it was an experiment in testing mass public adulation and fainting spells in girls and "a phenomenon" in the guise of musical entertainers (besides Frank Sinatra and Elvis), then ok, fine. I personally don't think there's much buried treasure here, mostly idle speculation. And no, I don't think the Beatles were the anti-Christ or whatever.
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ItsTimeNow
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Actually, the replacement of the original Paul McCartney is a very far reaching network. It's not just James Paul McCartney, but other entertainers seem to have been replaced also from viewing some of the photo comparisons. Aside from visual differences in the original Paul and the Paul who replaced him (I know, some will say it looks like the same guy), the real story is: Why; What happened to the original Paul; For what reason was he replaced; Who were the ones behind it. Now, that is big stuff to me, and especially if it is FAR REACHING as I suspect. The Beatles, in my opinion were not "evil", but the ones behind the death of Paul were evil and are evil to this day! I know there is an agenda by the Shadow Government to control the world. There was an agenda behind replacing Paul; did Paul not want to play their games? That is my reasoning. The Beatles were "controlled and manipulated" like everything else. "They" were marketing The Beatles. Maybe they wanted drugs introduced to the youth who were so impressionable.
Whatever happened back then should not be dropped or ignored. There are many trying to discover what the truth really is. It's important that this subject stay active because it is NOT JUST ABOUT THE BEATLES, NOT JUST ABOUT JAMES PAUL MCCARTNEY!
Paul Is Dead, Miss Him Forum: http://only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?action=pm
Nothing Is Real Forum: http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi
Iamaphoney Blog: http://iamaphoney.blogspot.com/
Various Youtube Channels:
This is the main Youtube channel for The Rotten Apple - Paul Is Dead videos
http://www.youtube.com/iamaphoney
These are various Channels that came out after The Rotten Apple videos started:
http://www.youtube.com/user/PIDgame
http://www.youtube.com/user/footnotebot
http://www.youtube.com/user/wizardofFaul
http://www.youtube.com/user/CryHepZero
http://www.youtube.com/user/iamawhich
http://www.youtube.com/user/IONEIXHEDIE
http://www.youtube.com/user/IONEIX
http://www.youtube.com/user/sonofwhom
http://www.youtube.com/user/MilesDeo
http://www.youtube.com/user/RockXLight
http://www.youtube.com/user/aIIofthemwitches
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evelyn
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Paul who? Oh, the sagging white guy who was married to the woman with one leg?
Please don't tell me any of my favorites 1950s and '60s pop, blues, rock, jazz, Motown, soul artists were "agents." Was Sammy Davis, Marvin Gaye, the Isley Brothers, Leon Paris? Tell me, I can take it.
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faulcon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: Paul was definitely replaced |
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To my mind, the evidence conclusively proves that Paul was replaced by a double (even if one uses the strictest burden of proof - beyond a reasonable doubt). I personally believe that the Beatles were somehow being influenced by the Tavistock Institute, which was pushing a drug agenda. The most likely scenario, in my opinion, is that Paul somehow wouldn't "get w/ the program," wouldn't quit, & was eliminated. There is speculation that the replacement is a William Campbell of Ontario.
I believe that photographic comparisons are all that is necessary to prove that Paul was replaced, but there is more evidence. Some good PID links are:
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/
http://homepages.tesco.net/harbfamily/opd/other.html
Paul McCartney Interviewed By David Frost (1964):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNYVxqJ83W8
Paul McCartney: ITN Interview - LSD and Journalism 19.06.67:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC4lumYPQD8
“Beatle Bill” reference in Imagine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-5Jwdz2nv4&feature=related
“Beatles were a set-up affair”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBBGpTe_7JA&feature=related
Signature Comparisons
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/paul/mccartney2.html
http://members.cruzio.com/~bbarrow/fab4.html
Dr. Henry M. Truby of the University of Miami used samples from three Beatles songs sung by Paul McCartney ("Yesterday," "Penny Lane," and "Hey Jude") and produced three very different sonagrams. Does that mean that there were three McCartneys? "I'm not prepared to say that this is the final word," Truby told Rolling Stone Magazine, "but it's a beginning." (Reeve, Andru J., Turn Me On, Dead Man: The Complete Story of the Paul McCartney Death Hoax, Ann Arbor: Popular Culture, Ink, 1994: 69)
Bettina Krischbin alleged that "Paul" had sent a double to give blood when her mother commenced a paternity suit against him. More info at:
http://invanddis.proboards29.com/ind...ay&thread=4958
Some info on Tavistock:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...nd_control.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...avistock03.htm
http://www.rense.com/politics6/harrison.htm
Here's my PID youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/faulconandsnowjob
Here's a forum devoted to Doppelgaengers: http://doppels.proboards99.com/index.cgi?
It seems that the newest revelation about a double was Kim Jong Il:
http://www.japantoday.com/category/k...aseda-profesor
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I try to be as open minded as possible but I have to admit when you sit and look at those photos side by side his ear sure seems to take a different shape between the two............... 
But that could be because of his different hair length and the maybe a different camera angle....  |
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Fintan
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Well the PID people would also say that Faul's big problem is
that he is taller, and thus has a longer face. There are also
some problems with the set of the eyes and the nose.
And of couse, famously that chin and jawline.
Also the slower lip-licking mannerism and stoic movements.
But to paraphrase John Cleese in the Life of Brian
speaking about 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'.....
"Other than.... the eyes, the nose, the chin, the jawline
the mannerisms, the movements and the attitude....
those two are clearly the same guy!! "
http://breakfornews.com/images/paultofaulhead1.gif
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http://breakfornews.com/saddam-mccartney.htm
THE SCAM BEGINS
This article was written within hours of the announcement
of the 'capture'. It humorously sets the scene by merging the
Saddam Scam with another famous 'double' conspiracy:
The Paul/Faul McCartney tale.
FAB TWO BECOME THREE
AS SADDAM MC CARTNEY
CAPTURED AT LAST
by Fintan Dunne, Editor GuluFuture.com
14th December, 2003 Updated 1pm ET
Notorious former Beatle, Saddam McCartney has been captured by U.S.
forces in Iraq. Finally solving a mystery which has puzzled many since
McCartney allegedly disappeared on 9th, September 1966 --with some claiming he had died a car crash....
It was an ignominious end. Cowering in a hide hole just miles from the northern city of Tikrit, with only a portable stereo and a tattered collection of vinyl Beatles albums to pass the lonely hours.
The almost incredible news came as a shock to keen fans: a raid by US and Kurdish forces on 13th December, 2003 had finally uncovered the ex-Beatle in a disheveled and sorry state. The years had not been kind to Saddam -now a barely recognizable shadow of his former self.
Reaction was swift. British Prime Minister Tony Blair called the find "very good news for the people of Iraq, and his loyal fans everywhere."
"It removes the shadow that has been hanging over them for too long of the nightmare albums released by the impostor whom Bill Sheppard is now revealed to be."
But for former colleague and fellow surviving Beatle, Ringo Starr, the news was tinged with mixed feelings.
"I never thought the fans would believe the person posing as Saddam McCartney, was the real Saddam," mused Ringo. "His voice was different, his eyes closer together and his music was, frankly, appalling."
"But it's still a shock to find the truth coming out now after all these years."
"All I can do is apologize to our dedicated fans. We had to hide Saddam's disappearance in 1966. It would have devastated the fans, caused suicides and shocked a generation. We had no choice."
CAN WE HANDLE THE TRUTH?
But others are far from convinced that's the full story. They feel that the real reason for the cover-up of McCartney's disappearance was that it would have derailed a complex psychological operation designed to steer 1960's youth into bland love songs, and away from any political awareness which might have overthrown the establishment.
While the news rocked the world as even the Beatles never had, the man who has posed as Saddam McCartney for 36 years was unavailable to the media. Speaking to reporters soon after the startling news broke, Geoff Baker, a spokesperson for the now outed fraudster, gave little away.
"Saddam and I have no idea who this man is," Baker told reporters. "My client is still adamant he is the same Saddam McCartney who played with John, George and Ringo. He is in studio right now working on new material and cannot be disturbed."
"Saddam has asked me to say: 'I am alive and well and unconcerned about the rumors of my capture.' This press briefing is now over, thank you gentlemen," concluded Baker, to howls of protests from the assembled world media.
But the stonewalling denials were cutting little ice with fans.
Sixty-two-year-old Gerry Wilson had just turned 21 when he first saw Saddam and the rest of the Beatles playing in a club in Hamburg. He says the news only confirmed his deep doubts of the authenticity of the man who was knighted by the Queen in 1997.
"It was 'Mull of Kintyre' that got me thinking," recalls Wilson. "I just couldn't believe that the wailing shrieks and second-rate tune could possible have been the same person who wrote and recorded 'Michelle'."
"When I compared the impostor Saddam trying to sing the real McCartney's original 'Yesterday', that really clinched it for me."
" 'Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be..'; yeah , too bloody right you're not!"
READ ON:
http://breakfornews.com/saddam-mccartney.htm
SEE ALSO:
http://breakfornews.com/saddam-captured.htm
http://breakfornews.com/saddam-tricks.htm
http://breakfornews.com/saddam-romance.htm
http://breakfornews.com/saddam-conspiracy.htm |
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faulcon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: |
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"Other than.... the eyes, the nose, the chin, the jawline
the mannerisms, the movements and the attitude....
those two are clearly the same guy!! "
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I'm embarrassed it took me so long to figure it out, even though some things troubled me. Such as why did Paul suddenly lose his looks in '67? Why was his solo career kind of mediocre? *slaps self on head*
And I love John Cleese! & George Harrison helped produce the Life of Brian :-)
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I think we rode this merry-go-round before ....
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11355#11355
- Hawk 
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| Quote: | McCartney to rock Israel
August 29, 2008 - 7:45AM
Music legend Paul McCartney is to stage his first ever concert in Israel next month, four decades after the Beatles were barred from playing there, he said on his website today.
The former Beatles star will play a "Friendship First" concert in Tel Aviv on September 25, as part of a series of one-off gigs in places he has never visited before.
"I've heard so many great things about Tel Aviv and Israel, but hearing is one thing and experiencing it for yourself is another. We are planning to have a great time and a great evening," he said.
"We can't wait to get out there and rock."
The Beatles drew up plans to play in Israel at the height of Beatlemania in 1965, but they were cancelled after sponsors failed to raise enough money, and lawmakers voiced concern that they might corrupt young Israeli minds.
McCartney also nearly performed in Israel in the late 1970s, when concerts with his post-Beatles band Wings were cancelled due to problems with the venues, he said.
In January Israel apologised in letters to the two surviving members of the Beatles - McCartney and drummer Ringo Starr - and asked them to play at the nation's 60th birthday bash in May.
"Unfortunately the state of Israel cancelled your performance in the country due to lack of budget and because several politicians in the Knesset had believed at the time that your performance might corrupt the minds of the Israeli youth," said letters to the ex-Beatles cited by the Israeli press.
McCartney noted today that Israel's ambassador to London Ron Prosor had told him it was "a great missed opportunity to prevent people like you, who shaped the minds of the generation, to come to Israel and perform."
The British musician has played a number of one-off concerts this year, including the "Independence Concert" in Ukraine in June and in Quebec in July. The Tel Aviv concert will be staged in the city's Hayarkon Park.
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