Preconditioning Events for 9/11

[Fintan]

Reply to this topic with evidence about staged preconditioning
events which paved the way for acceptance of 9/11.

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A summary of the thread will be updated here as evidence
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[Useful Eater]

Not sure if this fits in with this topic, but the Muslim charities and web sites shut down just before 9/11 is suspicious.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4253580,00.html

US pulls the plug on Muslim websites

[cobra]

I leave it to you to see how mucho of a topic this is.

I do consider it important. For me it was like John the Baptist before Jesus. It certainly straightened the way of the lord of the lies when we had to swallow 19 flying suiciders of a go. The Egyptair flight enabled that providing us just one suicide muslim-of-course pilot to widen our virginal throats.

For a link, here is the official report of the ntsb. I noticed in the Egyptian counterreport, Attachment B, a paragraph where it is stated that the Egyptian authorities requested a look at the radar registers of the time of the plunge and that the US authorities refused them. ¡Can't imagine why!


Link:
http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/2002/AAB0201.pdf

I don't think 911 could have been staged or as easily staged without this Egyptair 990 precedent -for those doing numbers in this forum even the Egyptair flight number is right-. Which means that two years before 911 there were plans for something like 911 or 911 itself. Of course 990 could have been downed for its own sake, but the trouble to make it a suicide pilot case wouldn't have been necessary in that case, although the flight might have been chosen because -i can't remember the figure- something like 50 egyptian airforce officials were returning the Egypt after training in the States with some latest equipment. Two birds of a shot.

If you remember, at that time a great deal was made out of the pilot saying something about Allah before plunging. For anybody used to muslims what would be surprising would be if somebody didn't say all the time something about Allah. But the leaking practiced by the ntsb ensured that the muslim suicide pilot stuck.

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[Ormond]

Fintan,

I'll offer my own list I've included all the 'terrorist' incedents I could find back to 1990-1995 to provide a broad frame of reference. I've marked familiar 'buzz word' terms in bold black.
Incedents and ops I believe were deliberately part of the 911 'public awareness' op lets call it, I've highlighted in bold red.
Relationship: instilling the meme themes, and densensitizing the public to excessive force and unconstitutional military participation in assaults and seiges on American citizens.

It's by no means complete. I'll add more later, such as the Tim McVeigh trial and execution, and such important followup.

Unfortunately the descriptions are from conventional sources and generally describe events according to the official account. Hard to get around that since in key cases the witnesses were killed by the government assault teams and could not give testimony.

My Opinion: A pattern of continuous violence giving the impression of two kinds of terrorism.
Primary Memes:
1. Domestic: 'anti-government, anti-social'
2. Foreign: "Clash of Civilizations" Fanatical Islamic terrorism.

January 15, 1990 The Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement bombs the United States Embassy in Lima, Peru.

May 13, 1990 The New People's Army (NPA) kills two Air Force personnel near Clark Air Force Base in the Philippines.

May 21, 1991 Former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and 16 others are killed by a suicide bomber from the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). The suicide bomber was a female.

May 29, 1991 The ETA bombs the police barracks in Barcelona, Spain killing 10.

February 29, 1992 A PIRA bomb explodes at the London Bridge Railway Station, injuring 29

March 17, 1992 The Israeli ,Embassy in Buenos Aires Argentina is bombed by the terrorist group Hezbollah killing 29 and injuring 242.

April 10, 1992 A bomb explodes in London, destroying the Baltic Exchange, killing 3 and injuring 91.

[atm]

Fight Club (1999): the end sequence -- the demolished skyscrapers.

'... the movie Fight Club, which is framed by the fantasy of undoing the social [fabric], destroying consumerism, and exploding the American paranoiac fantasy of suburban security.

In the final, "romantic" scene the protagonists walk hand in hand, while behind them an orgy of devastation is performed as buildings explode and collapse.

With the collapse of the World Trade Center, this fantasy is realised, and violence, once more, returns in the real, transforming the WTC into the symptom of contemporary network society and paralleling the manner in which the Titanic became the symptom of industrial society.'

(Zizek 2002: 15-16).

9/11 as a Hollywood Fantasy

http://pov.imv.au.dk/Issue_20/section_1/artc4A.html

BTW remember the protagonist, Tyler Durden, referring to ground zero?

'Three minutes. This is it - ground zero. Would you like to say a few words to mark the occasion?'

Narrator [voiceover]: for a second I totally forgot about Tyler's whole controlled demolition thing and I wonder how clean that gun is.

Would that gun be the metaphorical smoking gun? The [now missing, sold to China-along-with-the-cartridges] smoking gun that I alluded to earlier?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/

atm

[Ormond]

[atm]

Thank you, Ormond. So do you!

Yeah, know the Lone Gunmen psyop backwards thanks but no thanks to Messrs [messers?] Jones & Watson.

Hollywood is the subliminal cognitive preconditioner par excellence.

I think we need to examine very carefully what was emerging from the LA studios for at least the five years prior to 9/11/01.

'DieHard', anyone? What does the VHS/DVD sleeve photograph remind you of?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/

I suspect that 'The Towering Inferno' is going a bit too far back, however, I am of the impression that the timeline really could be that long, if not virtually infinite.

Get viewing.

atm

[Toto]

AIDS blamed on HIV set up the public for 911.

[atm]

Toto

you said, and I quote:

'AIDS blamed on HIV set up the public for 911.'

Come again?

[No pun intended.]

atm

[DeepLogos]

And then there are the post-conditioning movies...

[atm]

DeepLogos

astonishing. There are more examples out there, of that I'm sure.

This is a genuinely promising line of inquiry, one that we must pursue with vigour.

I'm still reeling.

atm

[Toto]

[moylan]

Let's not forget another piece of conditioning: the big, stupid "asteroids hitting earth" Armageddon. (Remember that there was a thing running at the time about big, terrorist asteroids heading for earth to obliterate us all unless we were responsible enough to surrender some of our liberties?)

Anyway, in the sequence where the terrorist asteroids strike New York, we have an aerial shot of the Twin Towers. And guess what? They resemble a shot from September 11th, 2001. Big gashes in the buildings, leaking black smoke.

As for Fight Club, it's right on the propaganda money. Tyler Durden is the archetypal Bin Laden, resentful of commercialization and the good life, recruiting an army and indoctrinating them with slogans which they moronically recite, making *large quantities of nitro-glycerin* in bathtubs. The message of the film is obvious... the narrator must grow up, slough off his immature, rebellious, terroristic, base impulses, accept the commodified world he lives in. The impulse to revolt is merely psychosis, fascism, immaturity, a refusal to "measure up" to the "realities of today's globalized world".

Any chance our friend Chuck is a paid disinfo agent?

[atm]

Mission Impossible III

Tagline:

"Expect the Impossible Again."

Fintan/Kathy, may I suggest that you start a new thread, i.e:

Postconditioning Events for 9/11.

atm

[DeepLogos]

As for pre-/ post-contitioning in movies: Minority Report
-all though part ot the idea is that technology doesn't always work as it is suppose to.