What makes a CIA fake?

[bri]

Is David Icke a fake, because he thinks lizards control the world?

I love your website Fintan, but you've probably been influenced (I'm not saying directly) by the "CIA", especially looking at older posts and audio, if you stick to the same analysis on yourself as others.

Why bother? Maybe it's time to move on? If someone says something stupid they should be called on for it. But the CIA finger pointing got out of hand and now the forum is demolishing itself in it's own "bad karma".

Forget the fakes, let's move to the real next level.

Can't you continue in your wonderful 9/11 research without pointing fingers? Not to say they were ALL in the wrong directions. But where does it lead?
The "fakes" still have high traffic. I even visit those sites sometimes.
I came here from mylonglife and treeincarnation expecting just a hair more, although there were many positive surprises on the way from your 911 audios and others. This could be a wonderful place for awakening and planning action if we can all go to this "next level" we propose so often.

[Big Boss]

Its interesting to note that i asked myself that question as well being logically inquisitive. Why hasn't anyone answered this member's post lol? Though i think this forum is really very interesting and packed with information to take you to the 'next level' i dont think its crazy to ask oneself "could break for news or Fintan be a CIA fake?" or (as i asked myself) "what makes a "CIA fake"?"

[Hombre]

Bri,

an excellent post. My story of how I became involved ( from a distance ) about 9-11 is too long to post and is for another day if anyone would be interested.

In regard to the CIA thing/ FBI/ Agent thing all I can say is this: I became curious about something I discovered on my system so I ran a log and crossed checked certain ( THINGS ) I'll call them, against my history. I discovered evidence of CIA gateways I'll say on my log which could only be traced to LINKS, but The links led to the CIA's secured home site.

More interesting than that were the Gaithersburg MD dedicated IP's of the one and only NIST. I could go on but there's really no point.

The most recent event was a local web site owned and operated by a friend of mine. He was holding a mock election with a few sub set questions all opinion based: Kind of a Poll so to speak. The Dept of Homeland Security closed the election down! A matter of National Security.

Most of the finger pointing is CRAP but much of it, and more than you know is real.

Hombre

[J Ruthless]

I've been at this site for a while now, since before the forum started. I finally decided to joint the forum, even though I'm not a researcher, just in intelligent inquisitive person.

The first audio I listened to was the "CIA Fakes". I must have listened to it 5 times, over and over. I have to admit, I was naive up until then. I would follow the alien conspiracy and the JFK conspiracy, and 911 conspiracy, but I never would have dreamed the level of deception involved before I found B4N. I knew of CIA cover ups, and disinformation, but Fintan really opened me up to my own personal "Next Level".
I personally feel that was Fintan's goal, to open people up to that level of thinking, and once you get there, there is no going back. You'll start to look at everything at 100 different angles, and analyze everything, and I think Fintan is not above that level of analysis either.
I think what its all about is finding your own "Next Level", it must come from within. I'm now just sitting back, thinking, analyzing, and waiting for my next epiphany, the time when I move on to "The Next Level". That time will come.

P.S. This post is a little out dated. When bri posted this, the forum was at an all-time high of disorientation that I feel has now drowned itself out, and we're starting to see the light again.

[Big Boss]

I have always been a researcher at heart (first learning about JFK's death when i was about 7-8 and it changed the way i saw this country from that moment onward, not to mention i had believed ( as a child of course lol) that oswald did it alone) the more i learned, the more i LEARNED. Fintan and many of the members here are absolutely incredible and i honestly feel "at home" with the lvl of intelligence, inquiry and truth seeking concerning history. Fintan (who is just damned hilarious by the way) had a great way of having, to a great degree, what a 'CIA fake' is. By using the analogy of a woman, a beautiful woman who is with a 'gorilla' of a man, then, sooner or later you find this woman wanting to 'be with you' You really dont want to be with her knowing who she was or is in bed with lol. Its a great analogy to use concerning fakes, etc. Thanks anyway for answering Ruthless and im honestly glad to be a part of the next level.

[PatrickSMcNally]

A feature which Fintan Dunne shares with Dave McGowan is that they both are able to toss around some of the most biting sarcastic jibes at various people in ways which can be quite entertaining, but often has to be sharply qualified retroactively. It can also result is some incongruences such as when Fintan Dunne has on occasion complimented Dave McGowan, but then in other contexts suggested that anyone who expresses doubts about a standard jetliner hitting the Pentagon must be a CIA fake (although it just happens to be the case that McGowan's page is fairly insistent that it wasn't a jetliner which hit the Pentagon).

Personally I don't mind either way what view McGowan wishes to take of the Pentagon, or what view Fintan wishes to lambast as a CIA fake position. I have to admit that I became fairly agnostic about the whole thing within the last year. Still, I'd appreciate some consistency. Has McGowan proven himself to be a CIA fake by expressing an insistence that something other than a jetliner hit the Pentagon? Or is it perhaps OK for people to have a variety of opinions on such matters without being CIA fakes necessarily?

It's clear that events today are not primarily determined by any particular view of 911. The public voted for the Democrats in 2006 because they wanted to make a statement against the Bush administration. It just happens that Pelosi, Conyers and the rest have proven to be totally worthless as opposition (not that I ever expected anything else). But it's clearly false to say at this time today that somehow the public view of 911 is playing a determining role in keeping things going in a set direction.

Whatever one may decide today about specific technical questions such as what did or didn't hit the Pentagon, it's clear that the continuance of war in the Mideast is not principally dependent upon any of that. Right now the war in the Mideast is simply grinding on from sheer momentum and lack of political alternatives, not from any belief in any specific scenario around 911. Even if some new revelation were to become public about 911 it would really just be another stack up on the pile of "no Iraqi WMDs ready to go off on 45 minute notice," "not enough bodies to support the story of 400,000 Kurds allegedly murdered by Saddam Hussein," etcetera. There's no reason to believe that any type of sudden revelation about 911 would somehow be so explosive that it would simply end the war in Iraq.

So that's why one shouldn't be too heated up either way whether you do or don't agree with McGowan on the Pentagon. But consistency in applying the CIA fake label would be appreciated.

[Big Boss]

Perhaps i need to study clearly the 3I 9/11 investigation done by Dunne, but im not convinced that an airliner hit the pentagon lol, at least not a passenger jet.

[Hombre]

I just wanted to leave a little thing to think about behind with this thread about fakes/CIA~ETC It's an example of the MELDEC that was used on 9-11 to perfection.

A guy is on a Street corner flipping a quarter. He flips it 20 times and every time it comes up Heads. Two other guys are watching, A Lawyer and a general Laborer. The guy flipping the coins asks both what the odds of the coin coming up tails on the next toss is. The Lawyer says " It has to be 50-50 because that's what I was taught in math class while in school " " It's 50-50 "

The laborer says: " No way it's closer to Zero " " No way that coin isn't loaded or fake, it's a rigged game "

This is what happened on 9-11 plain and simple. Easy to sell to people who have been taught about what should happen as opposed to what really does/did happen. Rest assured they are still doing it!

Hombre

[puffdaddy]

Did planes really hit the wtc or is that just a bunch of crap?

[Continuity]

Personally, I believe that 'planes *did* hit the WTC towers - as for the Pentagon, I'm agnostic about it, to tell the truth - it wouldn't surprise me either way to discover somehow for sure that it was or was not a real 'plane that hit it.