Geometry and Music - Princeton University Podcast

[bornfree]

This is an amazing audio podcast linking music and geometry.

[bornfree]

Here's the videos that go with the audio.

http://music.princeton.edu/~dmitri/ChordGeometries.html

Dmitri Tymoczko would ba a great guest

[Jerry Fletcher]

That was totally rad.

Completely mind blowing for musicians who like to dabble in philosophical geometry.

Transposition = rotation.
Inversion = reflection.

Puts a whole new 'spin' on jamming.

It's amazing to actually see spatial relationships of the musical structures we feel in mindspace - and how aurally coherent music has a mathematical coherency that also 'looks nice' when expressed geometrically.

I also see parallels to human consciousness the in the way musical elements mathematically behave.

Melody behaves a lot like thought.
Harmony behaves a lot like emotion.
Rhythm behaves a lot like a heartbeat or a respiratory cycle.

Finally, everything that guy talked about seemed to conceptually resonate perfectly with the geometry of Treeincarnation and Justin's archetypal number articles.

Many different aspects of reality are consistently proving to exhibit similar geometric relationships. That's pretty huge.

Entertaining too. Great find. Thanks!

[bornfree]

[just0]

Excellent stuff !!

Mind blowing is right!

Great to be able to connect music to geometry, but this guy is showing
some important spacial relationships and patterns in music.... Cool

especially interesting is what Jerry mentioned..
Transposition = rotation.
Inversion = reflection.

Shocking ammount of connections with that


I wonder how the 'jitterbug' (twelve around none) would sound while going
through it's in-out transformations. Was it george michael who had a song
'Do the jitterbug' or something??.. if it sounds anything like that, I think i'll
pass on hearing it

Bucky stated that "all is modification or modulation of angle and
frequency", I think the architects of the pyramids might have been very
'tuned into' these angular-geometric properties of different frequencies in
sound, maybe they even had the 'sound of creation' pumping out of those
pyramids day and night (link).... what a gig that would be

[Azoth]

where are Justin's archetypal number articles?

i've always thought geometry, music and hallucinogens go hand in hand! it's like the same thing(s). the mind being the way station...
wonder how heavy metal might be the black sheep of sequences.
sounded pathetic when i first heard about it. but i can understand why the church tried to ban certain modes and progressions etc. - in the context of sound therapy.

the pyramid is based on the golden triangle. so it's two (sets of course, all being neatly in Phi relations) of these back to back. mirror images if you will.

yeah, the author of giza powerplant says this may've been a geo-thermal/acoustic generator. another researcher did cymatic experiments in the king's chamber. finding (recognized) archetypal patterns within the cymatic patterns.
everything was apparently neat and tidy geometrically, way back when.

all this cool lore is to be found in temple construction (etc) apparently.

[just0]

Hey Azoth,

The number articles you're looking for are on Treeincarnation.com

http://treeincarnation.com/articles/Topology-of-Zero.htm

http://treeincarnation.com/articles/Number.htm

It's a look at geometry and number, inspired by R.B.Fuller's discovery
of natures synergetic geometry (nothing "sacred" about this),
and applied to the science of Treeincarnation.com

The 0²=2 thing is still in it's early stages, im going for a clearer
explaination of that at the mo.

Laters

[Azoth]

ok, thanks. if you're angles don't jibe with kabbalistc views on number, i'll be very angry! ha

[just0]

Sorry for diverting the thread here,
(We're still in the general ballpark tho, kind-of)

Azoth,

As far as I can see, Fuller's Synergetic studies can be beautifully
related to many Qabalistc and esoteric/mystical traditions.

I posted some articles by Iona Miller in the Cosmic Zero thread,
she wrote some interesting pieces on R.B.Fuller and Qabala too.

BTW, nice postings in the Treeincarnation audio's section too,
keep it up.

I liked this piece you wrote at the end of the last post.

[Azoth]

yeah... thanks. Iona Miller...hot ticket. i have her (with her ex) "modern alchemist". she's another who seems to be a walking encyclopedia - esoteric encyclopedia that is.
yesterday afternoon i got Eisen's "english cabalah" in the mail. just the intro basically confirmed everything i typed yesterday morning.
but...he actually says the english alphabet was Not formally crafted by any one individual or group!
that consciousness itself - kinda eased it in (my wording).
sounds nice tho not sure how to take this. but they've the same problem in trying to find the Exact origins of the elder futhark (etc) runes.

i do wonder how much the high masons might be behind all this. was thinking last night that it seems likely that (even tho they do everything else) they let true knowledge out for those who take the time....

danke

[micpsi]

The Tree of Life and sacred geometrical basis of music:
http://smphillips.8m.com/html/articles.html
Articles 11, 12, 14, 16, 26, 31, 37, 38 & 39 (PDF).

[Jerry Fletcher]