"Mind The Grid..." - More Shootings

[Rumpl4skn]

I moved this to a new thread, since the the original thread had been locked to consolidate the discussion on the NIU shootings.

It seems this morning (March 4, 2008) we have a new high-profile shooting to put on the map, this time in in Memphis, TN, roughly 200 miles from one of the map's 'targeted' areas.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/04/memphis.killings/index.html

Granted, there is no detail yet as to the "take" the MSM will be given <ahem>, so I can't say what this one is about, but....



I had estimated that one would land somewhere in the Nashville-Atlanta area, and Memphis is right next door. I would say that with the US being 3.79 million square miles, and a hit landing within 200 miles is pretty much a score. And I did call "glass!" (US members, please explain that one to the Europeans.)

Certainly no way to pronounce this any kind of op, yet. Let's see how this event is played out in the media, and we'll see if the map is still on it's way to completion by November (or sooner).

[Rumpl4skn]

Okay, so I no sooner posted up the Memphis shooting, and now there's another target to check off the map - this time the Atlantic coast of Florida, in Palm Beach county. I had specified 'Florida', but such a populated peninsula made it difficult to say where, but it was still just roughly 200 miles off the estimated target.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/03/04/bts.wendys.shoting.911.tapes.wptv

This clarifies the map a bit more, so I've added 3 more targets, one in the East Georgia / SC area, one more near Oklahoma (dependent on the placement of the Texas event - note the confidence of that prediction) and one in the Western PA / Ohio area.

[starviego]

There was also a "familycide"-type mass slaying in Yorba Linda, California(Orange County) on 2-23-08. Five killed and one wounded at the hands of the father. Ominously, the murder-suicide occurred across the street from the Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1239109%7E5_dead__1_wounded_in_Yorba_Linda_murder_suicide.html

[SidVicious]

Surely it can't take that many killings for them to take the guns away?

Awful as these things are--


Could someone spell out the motive of these ops?

[starviego]

Oz folded after the Broad Arrow Cafe/Port Arthur incident. Britain folded after Dunblane. The US will be a tougher nut to crack. People here simply no longer trust their government, and I notice each additional shooting now seems to be counter-productive. People are demanding an end to 'gun-free' zones. But the motives of the covert-operators are several:

--pressure for more gun control(and there have been numerous laws passed in the wake of these incidents that are chipping away at the right to bear arms, though they are now attempted mostly at the local and state level).

--turning our schools into miniture-looking prisons, with their armed guards, metal detectors, drills, lockdowns, searches, etc.

--effort to psychologically screen all students, drugging as many as possible

--generalized terror for the people, getting them to turn the outside world off.

[EddieT]

[Fernando_the_First]

The great failure of the "resistance" (sorry, I'm not hip to the proper lingo) is the failure to make alliances. Here is man who has been fighting the good fight for decades-- John Taylor Gatto.

When I mention him to people who should know his work by heart (educators who understand the failures within the system) they ask "who?"

Those who object to the road we are traveling are sometimes heard to say that "trying to organize us is like herding cats." That is not funny. It's the problem of too much IQ and not enough EQ. We are going to die with the phrase "in my humble opinion" on our lips. Gatto has contacts and information and organization. He's as famous as a radical reformer is likely to be-- and that's not enough. He's laboring in obscurity because some tiny detail within his set of ideas doesn't jive with some tiny detail within the party dogma of the (fill the blank) movement.

It's always the same story. What must be learned is that this "divide and conquer" technique is as old as the Romans and it still works like Swiss cutlery. Divide the Libertarians from the Greens. Divide the 9-11 inside job people from the 9-11 Israeli job and the 9-11 Saudi job people. Keep everyone bickering constantly. No alliances. No progress.

[Rumpl4skn]

John Taylor Gatto rocks. I have been forwarding this audio of his to dozens of friends who I think might have an interest in the how the deliberately-boring US school system has been built from the ground up by industrialists who needed find out if the public would endure 8-hour factory shifts... amongst other things:

Beyond Schooling

[starviego]

[Rumpl4skn]

A few days ago, CNN did a spot on "gun ownership". They interviewed 2 women, one for and one against gun rights - the latter being a young woman who is a "survivor" of the VA Tech massacre, and who still has a bullet lodged near the base of her skull. The pro-gun woman was a bit overweight, early 40's and ordinary-looking. The anti-gun woman was younger, prettier, dressed very hip and wore very dark fashion sunglasses. It was essentially a frumpy housewife vs. a fashion model.

The first woman said that the 2nd Amendment guaranteed our right to bear arms, and that she felt guns could protect people. That was it - they literally spent about 7 seconds on her segment.

Then they went to the VA Tech girl, who strongly protested that "guns could make a difference." She essentially said that she "was alive because she did not have a gun" on her when the shooting incident occurred. She gave no reason for this deduction, and the "ace" interviewer didn't ask for one. She went on to say that "people think they can protect themselves with a gun... but they cannot." Once again, no inkling of the thought process that lead her to that conclusion, and no follow-up request for clarification from the "alleged journalist."

I could only guess that perhaps she's been to a gun training resource, and they could not manage to break her of the habit of perpetually holding the gun backwards. "Guns don't work, people - the bullet comes out the wrong end. I've seen it first-hand!"

Her perfectly-conforming opinion was given the remaining 53 seconds of the 1-minute segment, and the whole piece was such a clear example of blatant propaganda, pathetically disguised as sound-bite journalism. In actually, there was not even an attempt to disguise it at all. They just pump this stuff out now, because there is no better way to reinforce an abjectly wrong, dangerously inept opinion than to have an attractive, sympathetic character appear with the built-in "credibility" of appearing on mainstream television, fitting the image of 'young, hot and popular', and have them repeat the intended mantras. Therefore, no valid evidence of the logic behind that opinion is ever necessary, and many will repeat the words as passionately and mindlessly as they were spoken.

"Young beautiful people think this way, and you should too." Who in their right mind would dare risk the mockery of their peers by foolishly standing up to popular opinion from a beautiful TV crime victim? (From the same people who brought you "4 out of 5 dentists recommend smoking Viceroy!")

Ah.... if only Cindy Sheehan had looked more like Anna Kournikova, and less like Janet Reno.

[xiuyan]

Very great~!
Keep up the great work~!

[Rumpl4skn]

At this point, I'd also like to make another bold prediction, although admittedly not a difficult one to come up with.

We're going to see another "stockbroker shooting" in the upcoming days, weeks or months, akin to the incident back in the 90's in the Buckhead business section of Atlanta, when the "berserk day trader" took out quite a few people. And I won't suspect he's necessarily a mind-controlled assassin, either. Just a very pissed-off stockholder.

That'll unfortunately be one violent windfall of the goings-on in Wall Street. Real economic rage, coming out of a gun barrel.

[starviego]

My own prediction is that there will be a rage attack on a school bus and/or a hospital, perhaps coordinated.

[Gawker]

Does this qualify?

[starviego]

Gawker,

Thanks for pointing that one out. There was another school shooting a month later(see below). I don't know if these guys were being mind-controlled. Just a couple more people who are seemingly normal one moment and whack-killers the next.


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4-29-08 (Tuesday)
The Excel Institute (NE, Washington, District of Columbia)
Wesley Johnson, 27

About 2 p.m. at the Excel Institute, a private school, an auto mechanics student--Wesley Johnson, 27 --dressed in a black business suit and fedora walked into his vocational school and opened fire. He wounded two people, before leaving the grounds by carjacking a vehicle. He would have wounded more had his guns not jammed at least once.

-- "He walked past me with a gun in each hand and said, 'I'm going to handle some business,' " said school counselor Erik Steed.
--He stopped outside the faculty lounge and shot at the school's chief operating officer, Henry Schultz, grazing him in the face.....
He aimed his gun at another staff member and pulled the trigger, but the gun jammed.....
Then he walked outside and asked a woman whether she had "seen anything," police said. When the woman said she had, Johnson shot her in the shoulder.
--"... he walked up to us. He had this eerie look on his face. And I looked at his clothes; he never came to class dressed like that," another student said. "He asked us if we saw anything, and we all said 'No.' Then he walked away."
--Johnson carjacked two vehicles and led police on a high-speed chase through Northeast Washington and Capital Hill, shooting at officers but hitting no one. He eventually slammed into a police car trying to block his escape, injuring an officer, and was arrested when he tried to flee.
--Police found two weapons on the suspect including a Tech 9


Like most rampages, it appears the act was preplanned:

--D.C. police think the man who shot and wounded two people Tuesday at a technical school had a grander plan to commit mass murder and possibly die in a fiery shootout with police, law enforcement sources said yesterday. Police searched Wesley Johnson's Fort Washington home and found three rambling suicide notes to family members written on paper towels and dated Tuesday: "You thought I was bluffing. Now you know it's judgment day," said one note in part....
Writing was scrawled on his bedroom walls, sources said. On one was the threat: "I'm going to throw rocks and no one will take me down."


To most, he was seemingly normal--a bright, quiet student:

--Johnson was described... as an "A" student who never displayed abnormal or violent behavior until yesterday.

--Steed said the man was usually mild-mannered and upbeat. "If I had to pick someone at this school for doing something like this, it wouldn't be him," he said.

--The gunman was "one of my top-of-the-line students, all his assignments in on time, no problems at all" said instructor Carmelita Winters

--Excel teachers said Johnson, who had been at the school about a month, had always seemed mild-mannered and polite.


Though it was clear Johnson seemed to be suffering some kind of mental breakdown that morning:

--Johnson had seemed discouraged and morose earlier in the day, said Cheryll Smalls, a neighbor who had a long talk with Johnson on a bus into the city Tuesday morning, a few hours before the incident.
"He kept saying how tired he was. Tired of it all," she said. "He just wasn't himself."
"He seemed like something was troubling him. He talked about God the whole time and the way the world is, and he talked about the children and it's not the children's fault and that the children need guidance and that they don't respect people." After that, Johnson, who was wearing headphones, turned away and stared off as if in a trance, she said.


Johnson definitely wasn't a goth, but there were other parrallels that indicate the typical 'Columbine-client':

Police who were coincidentally close to the scene:
--The shooting took place in an area that has been plagued by recent violence, and three officers on special assignments in response to the crime spurt helped make the arrest.

Anger management classes:
--...he also was taking a life skills class that had segments on anger management and conflict resolution, school officials said yesterday. Every student has to take the life skills class.

Memory Loss:
--The man suspected of opening fire at a vocational school in D.C. Tuesday and then leading officers on a chase said he doesn't remember any of it.

And just like at Columbine, he did not shoot at some victims, depending on their answer to the question 'did you see anything?' (versus 'do you believe in God?')


I found this interesting comment on another website:
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/dc-first-vocational-school-shooting/
--Have you ever had the pleasure of playing “Grand Theft Auto”? In the game you commit a series of terrible crimes to work your way up through the criminal ranks. Each “mission” involves some instance of evading capture/gangsters/mob/etc by jacking car after car while killing and terrorizing police and innocents. I don’t believe there is a relationship between games and real life violence, but there are striking similarities in this instance