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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Binary economics Reply with quote

Thanks Gary,

Here's some more of Harold Channer's 'Conversations' program -
he's had some guests on to discuss Kelso's binary economics.

Robert Ashford & Dr. Larry Gell


Channer has interviewed Louis Kelso on his public access TV show,
he's uploaded these two videos to Youtube.

Louis O. Kelso & A.H. Raskin Air date : October 1983


Louis O. Kelso : August 1987


Kelso's economics is complicated, but the implications are inspiring...
What he's pointed out is fundamentally important to developing a new
understanding of economics and wealth distribution and ultimately a new
political landscape. It's a new paradigm which neither capitalism - nor
socialism / left - nor right can properly address.

IMO, Kelso's 'third way' is way ahead of the game in terms of giving us
a workable way-out of the current economic nightmare. But the key
factor in this is, that it embraces the possibility of a 'win-win' situation for
all parties, i.e. where the rich will benefit from entering into such a system,
as much as would the poor. Usurping one groups power to replace it by
another is an obsolete paradigm and is a route which must be avoided,
we've had revolutions before, but this time is different... we're on the
brink of a rEvolution. The psychological dual of "You OR Me"/"Us vs. Them",
is a game which we're getting very tired of, a new 'game' is needed.

IMO, This is key... there is no hope in an economic or political system
which requires there to be winners and losers, all sides must win,
and despite what you will hear, this is possible. As far as I can tell, I
haven't seen this vital component addressed at such a fundamental level
anywhere else, would that make 'binary economics' the only game in
town ? Who knows, but it's close to it.

I'm not very well read on this particular subject area, all the details aren't
clear to me, but the overall picture I get from this binary economics, is
that it makes good 'ol fashoined common sense. At first glance it seemed
like a crazy idea, but now I wonder...is it crazy enough ?!? ..Possibly
just a step in the right direction.

Quote:
"The basic moral problem that faces man as he moves into the age of automation, the age of accelerating conquest
of nature, is whether he is really fit to live in an industrial society; whether his institutions will adjust
rapidly enough; whether he will rivet himself with an absurd institution like full employment in the economic
order when it is not only unnecessary but unadministratable in anything but a slave society; whether freed from
the necessity to devote his brain and brawn to the production of goods and services, he can address himself to
the work of civilization itself."
(Louis O. Kelso, 1964)
http://www.kelsoinstitute.org/

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: The Bucky Story Reply with quote

Heres a nice audio called
The Bucky Story - (27 mins)
http://www.cybsoc.org/Bucky.wma

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