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Dale
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 Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I took the Alex Jones Y2K link over to Brit9/11, but NO response!
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6997&start=150
(by the way, I didn't edit ape-shit... THEY did!)
I also posted it at the West Yorkshire Truth Campaign and at least someone there gets it about AJ! But then Yorkshire people are pretty smart  |
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atm
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Ahhh, so that's who you are  .
Well done, but personally I find the aforementioned Web shite, well, shite.
So I don't participate in their shit. Glad you are though.
Good shit. Shit, am I saying shit too often?
Shit! SHIT!
SHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT.
Shit.
Censor that!
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Dale
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Yes atm, it sure is. Most of them are from nineeleven.co.uk and just spout the same old stuff. I only go back there with Alex Jones/CIA fakes stuff as there is one person there who seems to get it. I'm committed to outreach work these days! So that's just 2 smart Yorkshire people then  |
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dilbert_g
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Here's a little more proof. I mentioned before that Jones father was JBS, and JBS = CIA/FBI. (Unfortunately, it's from that nauseating site iamthewitness.com with all their Jew/crypto-Jew attacks on Alex and Fintan and everyone who does not insist it was all "the Joos". Darryl goes BEYOND (misleadingly) claiming "the Zionists did it".)
| Quote: | In April 2006 Jones interviewed John McManus, the president of the John Birch Society. Jones told him:
"I want to work with you guys, to see you grow."
www.infowars.com/articles/commentary/alex_jones_interviews_mcmanus.htm
McManus replied that he was:
"looking forward to seeing the relationship continue".
What relationship? And why would Jones be working with the John Birch Society?
The John Birch Society is lying about the September 11 attack, and other Zionist crimes. It may have been an honest organization when it was founded, but it is definitely controlled by Zionists today.
The John Birch Society doesn't blame Israel or Zionist for anything, which is why David Eisenberg joined and was promote to the JBS Council:
http://www.jbs.org/node/1285
“My name is David Eisenberg, and I approve of the John Birch Society!” |
When you combine this interview with THIS it says exactly who Jones is. JBS founded Western Goals, a private corporation that spied on Americans for the CIA, NSA, and FBI. |
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UniversalDeceit
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: A Perspective |
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A lot of good points have been made, but I've got to respectfully disagree with the general sentiment here. After a few years of listening to the guy and some sober reflection, I think Alex Jones is legit insofar as he means well enough and believes most of what he says (even if some of it is crazy). Reminds me of his buddy Texe Marrs - means well, but nutty. Does Jones wound the movement he embraces in some ways? Does he alienate mostly rational listeners with his dramatic fits and general rudeness to those who call in to his show? Most definitely. But I'm skeptical about him being an undercover operative or a disinfo agent. His enthusiasm I don't believe could be faked. To me he just seems like a complicated and bizarre, generally egotistical guy. He and his crew like to put their own spin on things - sort of a turn-off for those seeking straightforward analysis.
Besides, if Alex Jones was paid off, he wouldn't be complaining on the radio all the time about not having any money. |
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Nat
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: Re: A Perspective |
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| UniversalDeceit wrote: | | ...if Alex Jones was paid off, he wouldn't be complaining on the radio all the time about not having any money. |
i have to say that i've heard better arguments |
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atm
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: |
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UniversalDeceit
for one named as such, you are, no offence, rather naive. If I have money and I am making a bundle and want to hide that FACT then, if I had a radio show, I would say 'I have no money'. It is called deception.
It is deceitful. What's his day job? Where's his income coming from?
He hangs out with Hollywood stars. That kind of company doesn't come cheap.
Join. The. Dots.
And here is Mr Jones on (U.S.) millionaires:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJSbEb2e8zE&mode=related&search=
Oh, wait a minute! It's been removed due to a 'terms of use violation'.
I wonder who had it pulled? Larry Silverstein? Join. The. Dots.
I originally posted it here:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1156&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Join. The. Dots.
Enough already. I'm off to enjoy my life.
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UniversalDeceit
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| atm wrote: | UniversalDeceit
for one named as such, you are, no offence, rather naive. If I have money and I am making a bundle and want to hide that FACT then, if I had a radio show, I would say 'I have no money'. It is called deception. |
I'm not that naive. When the guy complains about money, I am choosing to take him at face value. He literally whines about it. And there's the issue of him relentlessly pushing his overpriced DVD documentaries on audiences everyday. Reasonable, rational indications of a guy hurting for cash, correct? I just don't buy it that his "fakery" is that disingenuous and laborious. It's counterintuitive for me. |
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atm
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Or perhaps he is milking a very large cash cow for all it's worth. It's called aggressive marketing. Every product has a life cycle. He -- or his hidden paymasters -- knows that.
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dilbert_g
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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UD:
I also spent some time arguing that perhaps Jones was a GOOD GUY but just maximally confused about a lot of things who happens to hang out with a lot of people who promote some good/some loony theories about Sept 11.
He even invited on Paul Craig Roberts who openly disagreed with Alex on the danger of China, saying "No Alex, WE are the threat, not them."
For example, Jones says "controlled demo" radio-controlled planes. The problem is he does not say "this is plausible and here's why", he simply flops it out there like a drunk flops out his shlong to a prostitute. Unless youre an insider, it's a non-sequitor.
I can explain why, as has been done by Fintan and others on this forum.
a) for a whole variety of reasons, the hijackers were likely patsies, seemingly with intelligence connections and "handlers" and seemingly not "suicidal" and therefore either they were tricked into getting on the planes as some "mission", maybe even tricked into staging a hijacking as a "mission", but something less than a suicide op, or they were never on the planes at all.
b) Given the NEED for this new Pearl Harbor Event to accelerate the War of Global Hegemony, they could not afford to risk human error of "towelheads". Shock and Awe needed to WORK!
c) Radio controlled flight is OLD, 1984. The fact that this was NEVER mentioned in the MSM as even a possibility -- despite the fact that it is, and despite CIA's history of doing crap like that -- makes it MORE likely.
Then Jones hooks up with, and gives cred to, Jimmy Walters who was covered here on B4N making a total ass out of himself on "Asshole". Sane Jimmy on CNN vs. Loony Jimmy on Asshole. Jimmy who says the South Tower was hit by a Blue Hologram Laser ILLUSION. Like those ppl that say CGI. (This defies logic in that many ppl saw it live from different angles.)
As these anomalies went on and on, what gradually wore down my resistance of defending Alex Jones as merely 'weird' vs. seeing him as an agent was Alex Jones himself.
That and my parallel growing understanding of the subtlety of how CIA operates. Did you know that CIA funded and provided hype for Abstract Expressionism, in the 50's and 60's? WHY? Why would CIA do that? Because of it's lack of social/political content. Yeah, it gets that deep, and if it's that subtle, then Jones is obvious. IMO. |
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truthseeker
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| Thanks for posting the link, Gary. That was an absolutely BRILLIANT rant, and a clear sample of the open-minded, clear-thought analysis that makes this place so valuable. |
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Jerry Fletcher
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: small con |
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| Dilbert_g wrote: | Then Jones hooks up with, and gives cred to, Jimmy Walters who was covered here on B4N making a total ass out of himself on "Asshole". Sane Jimmy on CNN vs. Loony Jimmy on Asshole. Jimmy who says the South Tower was hit by a Blue Hologram Laser ILLUSION. Like those ppl that say CGI. (This defies logic in that many ppl saw it live from different angles.)
As these anomalies went on and on, what gradually wore down my resistance of defending Alex Jones as merely 'weird' vs. seeing him as an agent was Alex Jones himself.
That and my parallel growing understanding of the subtlety of how CIA operates. Did you know that CIA funded and provided hype for Abstract Expressionism, in the 50's and 60's? WHY? Why would CIA do that? Because of it's lack of social/political content. Yeah, it gets that deep, and if it's that subtle, then Jones is obvious. IMO. |
Long con or short?
Perhaps intel controls the overriding list of allowable media topics, but the footsoldiers of 'truth' may well be two bit scammers who consider the NWO controversy simply a goldmine for selling useless crap to scared sheep, and making a bundle providing user info to data management marketing companies.
Maybe we're giving AJ way too much credit calling him an asset - the 'et' may not be necessary.
Anyway, here's another opinion that raised my eyebrow - either way, notice how "Inside Job" is lumped together with "blood sacrifice to Moloch". Good work AJ.
| Quote: | The Inside Straight
Turning scraps of data into intelligence is like trying to fill an inside straight: You need patience -and a bit of luck !
The Alex Jones 9/11 "Truthers" : a Spam Scam
You may have read about the Alex Jones 9/11 Truthers (AJTs), and how they distort history for fun and profit: ( 9/11 was an Inside Job ! The Zionists Are Coming ! Bilderbergers Make Blood Sacrifices to Moloch ! Homeland Security is Setting Up Concentration Camps ! )
The name of the game for AJTs is to get you to click on the links to their hair-raising stories .
Once you do so, your Internet ID - in the form of a "cookie" , registers (more or less permanently) on their visitor stats, where it may be "harvested" by the site owner, and sold to those lovable folks: the Spammers.
In addition, while you are on the AJT site, you may be attracted by one of the ads - of which there are plenty. This results in additional revenue to the AJT site owner,and might result in you making a purchase from one of the AJT affiliates , or signing up for one of their multitudinous "get-rich-quick" programs....which typically leave the eager investor holding the short end of a very expensive stick. |
Buy Gold!
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The Internet is proving a virtual goldmine for the AJT crowd as its smarter charlatans post their garbage on discussion sites, and exasperate the participants into clicking on their links and reading their nonsense in an effort to prove them wrong.
My advice is simple : The next time you see an AJT story on your discussion board, ignore it ! |
Well, that would be me now, wouldn't it? Doh.
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Things that sound too good or too bad to be true are almost always false.
The Alex Jones 9/11 Truthers chuckle all the way to the bank every time we forget this .
(If you really enjoy getting email from Nigerian scammers, purveyors of worthless stock,and people who want to sell you "performance enhancing" drugs, forget I said anything ! )
March 04, 2007 in Sarcastic Response to Gross Aggravations | Permalink
From:
http://insidestraight.typepad.com/the_inside_straight/2007/03/the_alex_jones_.html |
Hmm. Got me thinkin... |
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atm
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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The evidence mounts. Nice find, Jerry.
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