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Ozregeneration

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Big Island Down Under
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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krammer wrote: | Seems to be fine so far for me, I am using the winamp broadband connection. |
Thanks, I'm trying that now, I'm getting a connection but having to reconnect. Definitely my end. Will do my best to record anyway. _________________ Choices For Your Soul
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krammer
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 146
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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My winamp connection keeps stopping also...so not just at your end.  |
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TJ

Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Fintan-Fetzer GCN Network Streams & Media Players |
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The GCN audio stream for Real Player appears to be less stable and more problematic than the others. I too continually got disconnected using the GCN-designated network stream for & with Real Player.
WinAmp Media Player may be a good way to go. However, copying the GCN-designated Windows Media Player live network stream shortcut into VLC Media Player in network stream mode is working well for me. VLC Media Player plays more media file formats than any other media player that I've found, and VLC also has a decent and versatile network stream record function.
WinAmp Media Player may be the best software of the lot, but some useful WinAmp functions are not available unless you pay money to upgrade. In addition, WinAmp hogs resources & CPU time on my 1 GHz 7-year old computer.
A useful function of the much-maligned Windows Media Player is its ability to play MP3 & some other audio files (and some video files) faster than single-speed without making the speakers sound like chipmunks. Windows Media Player does this by digitally shortening the pauses between the speakers' words. Thus, you can listen to Fintan's & others' talk audios at up to 100% faster than they were originally recorded (slowing down to listen to Fintan's musical interludes and fast-forwarding through the ubiquitous commercials of others). However, Windows Media Player is also a resource & CPU hog.
Oz & others, do you agree with the above? In addition, what is the best free software for network stream recording? _________________ "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." -- Niels Bohr |
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Hocus Locus

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 850 Location: Lost in anamnesis, cannot forget my way out
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Being a linux geek, I get right to the heart of the matter. But if you have 'cygwin' installed and a version of 'netcat' (typically installed as 'nc') you can do the same. I camped on at 10 minutes before the hour and am spooling direct to disk file.
On page http://www.gcnlive.com/listenlive.htm
I download and opened the link for 'Network 2' for Winamp, open it in notepad. It contains:
http://66.90.103.18:3012
Which gives us an IP and a port.
Then at the command prompt I type
nc -vn 66.90.103.18 3012 >x.mp3
Which says, 'connect to 66.90.103.18 port 3012, spool everything into file x.mp3'. But Winamp does a fake web browser 'get' to begin. So when it connects (it just sits there) I typed, blind,
GET / HTTP/1.0
and hit ENTER twice. Nothing appears to happen... but I see the file growing over time. To listen while it's spooling, I copy the growing file to another repeatedly and listen to that.
No gooey GUI madness. Fitting data pipes to disk. No popup ads. No stuttering threads. Getting it all with no interruptions but commercial interruptions. What's spooling to disk has a text HTTP header in front but nevertheless it's playable .mp3 format.
Being used to having direct access to streams and protocols... just ask me how much I hate youtube. Actually, better not ;-)
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Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to make it complex and wonderful.
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Ozregeneration

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Big Island Down Under
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings all,
Thanks for the heads up re winamp. I don't normally use it but I did have the exe saved away so a quick unpack and away I went.
I've managed to get all of it recorded with a few dropouts, which don't really affect the flow too much. Winamp seems to be much better at reconnecting than realplayer.
Hey, Hocus, are you able to make up the transcript from your dumps? I'll be uploading and making available my recordings over the next hour. I'm first wanting to rerecord the start of the 2nd hour without the news/adds.
Edit: I meant to add, thanks for the heads up TJ re VLC Media Player. I'll have to look it up. _________________ Choices For Your Soul
http://www.choicesforyoursoul.com/ |
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Ozregeneration

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Big Island Down Under
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TJ

Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: Fintan, Fetzer, and the Forest of Fakes |
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Fintan, Fetzer, and the Forest of Fakes
Good show! Especially given the circumstances. Jim Fetzer is steeped in the establishment of the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement. Fetzer has difficulty in seeing the alternative evidence & implications of what Fintan & others have researched, developed & proven over the years.
The 9/11 quasi-Patsy nature of Bush, Cheney, Rummy & the Neo-Cons may be as difficult as it is for Fetzer & others to accept because the 9/11 Neo-Con Red Herrings & Limited Hang-Outs were laid down well in advance -- for decades. Just as Scooter Libby is the interim, designated fall guy for the Neo-Cons, the Neo-Cons are the designated fall guys for what went wrong on & after 9/11. Laying down a Red Carpet for Hillary Clinton 'and Company" – fittingly composted of Red Herrings.
One way to convince guys like Fetzer that BushCo. & the Neo-Cons are not the prime perps of 9/11 may be to use an analogy to the mystery of “The Dog that Didn’t Bark” with Sherlock Holmes. If the BushCo. Neo-Con bitches did 9/11, then why aren’t the opposing G8 dogs barking? Answer (with a question): Why would the G8 dogs bark at the litter of one of their own bitches?
The title of the Alex Jones conference in Los Angeles about which Fetzer was so proud was “9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda.” Semi-blatant disinfo… right in the title – hidden in plain sight. The Neo-Con PNAC boys & girls also left a quasi-confession to 9/11 and its pre-math & after-math on the PNAC website -- hidden in plain site. So, the Neo-Con boys & girls have conveniently confessed, and AJ & the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement boys & girls have conveniently accepted their confession. “How Convenient” (as the Saturday Night Live “Church Lady” used to say)!
Fetzer & others still see disinfo in terms of intent. If you didn’t intend to lie, then you’re telling the truth, right? Or at least you’re not disinfo, right? Of course, untruth & disinfo are not matters of intent. We have witting, semi-witting, unwitting & witless 9/11 disinfo purveyors. As one who has been more-than-occasionally duped into repeating the disinfo of the dogs with ticks with whom I lie, I know that being a disinfo agent is NOT a matter of intent.
In addition, the road to you-know-where is paved with you-know-what. Thus Fetzer’s & others’ good intentions are not always sufficient to remove them from the letter & litter of disinfo. But -- one nice thing about Fetzer (butt not Jones) is that the old dog really does want to learn new tricks. Fetzer is more than willing to open his raincoat to those with opposing views (e.g., Fintan).
Watching & sometimes literally stage-managing so-called “CIA Fakes” from a front row seat here in Washington & New York is interesting. I know many if not most of these characters first hand. Thus, it has also been interesting to watch my own views evolve over the past 6 years as I see, experience & listen to Fintan’s & others’ views & alternative evidence about what is really going on behind the scenes (where I sometimes think that I live).
The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement is so full of itself that it can’t even recognize itself in the mirror. They provide fertilizer for the trees that are growing in the forest that they cannot see. If they don’t soon morph into ‘turtles with skates,’ then they may soon become so firmly implanted ideologically in this forest of disinfo that they will never begin to see the forest that they are fast becoming. Fintan and few others provide this perspective.
Fetzer says that he wants Fintan to again appear as his GCN guest. What was said in interviews in the past 2 weeks needs time to percolate into the consciousness of those who listen. Perc time. Cooking time. In addition, they need time to research the points on which they disagree. Fintan’s “9/11 without Tinfoil” series may be a good topic for the next F&F Tell & Show. We’ll see… Yes, we will.
Fetzer and others will see what you say here. Let them know… _________________ "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." -- Niels Bohr |
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Ozregeneration

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Big Island Down Under
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Fintan, Fetzer, and the Forest of Fakes |
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Greetings TJ,
TJ wrote: | In addition, the road to you-know-where is paved with you-know-what. Thus Fetzer’s & others’ good intentions are not always sufficient to remove them from the letter & litter of disinfo. But -- one nice thing about Fetzer (butt not Jones) is that the old dog really does want to learn new tricks. Fetzer is more than willing to open his raincoat to those with opposing views (e.g., Fintan). |
I think this point you make about Fetzer is the impression he gives me as well.
TJ wrote: | The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement is so full of itself that it can’t even recognize itself in the mirror. They provide fertilizer for the trees that are growing in the forest that they cannot see. If they don’t soon morph into ‘turtles with skates,’ then they may soon become so firmly implanted ideologically in this forest of disinfo that they will never begin to see the forest that they are fast becoming. Fintan and few others provide this perspective. |
I think it is also worth noting for those that can see the forest that there is much beyond the forest too. _________________ Choices For Your Soul
http://www.choicesforyoursoul.com/ |
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Fintan Site Admin

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 8692
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: Fintan Dunne on Jim Fetzer Show |
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The Art of 9/11 Disinformation
Fintan Dunne was Jim Fetzer's Guest on the GCN
'Dynamic Duo' Show, Thurs, 14th March, 3-5pm Central.
Topic:
How the 9/11 Movement is Managed
Through a Range of Disinfo Techniques
Including:
FIVE LEGS OF THE DISINFO STOOL
- Political Manipulation of Free Elections
- Spinmeisters & Total News Management
- Psychological Warfare & RIMA & Internet Control
- Fake Politics
- Globalization
Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/Fintan-Fetzer070315.mp3
Quote: | REFERENCES
DISINFO TACTICS
0. Point in Wrong Direction to 'Bad Guys'
1. Divide and Conquer the Movement
2. Contaminate the Evidence Pool
3. Waste Time of Researchers
4. Plant Loopy 9/11 Flakes
5. Use Selective Evidence in Mainstream
DISINFO EVIDENCE
1. An Orgy of Evidence to smokescreen the Event.
2. False/Ambigious Evidence Deliberately Inserted into 9/11.
Political Manipulation of Free Elections
Trojan Horse: The National Endowment for Democracy
Excerpted from the book Rogue State A Guide to the World's Only Superpower
by William Blum Common Courage Press, 2000
How many Americans could identify the National Endowment for
Democracy? An organization which often does exactly the opposite
of what its name implies. The NED was set up in the early 1980s under
President Reagan in the wake of all the negative revelations about the
CIA in the second half of the 1970s. The latter was a remarkable period...
Seemingly every other day there was a new headline about the discovery
of some awful thing, even criminal conduct, the CIA had been mixed up in
for years. The Agency was getting an exceedingly bad name, and it was
causing the powers-that-be much embarrassment....
The idea was that the NED would do somewhat overtly what the CIA had
been doing covertly for decades, and thus, hopefully, eliminate the stigma
associated with CIA covert activities.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/TrojanHorse_RS.html
So while the NED feeds money to the "Good Guys", the regular CIA
runs Ops to paint the Bad Guys with luminous dayglo so you can't miss 'em.
Now they are just applying the Ukraine-style political manipulation
techniques to 9/11: the creation of "Bad Guys" to get "Good Guys"
elected.
PNAC = Bad Guys.
So, who are the Good Guys? Try the Hillary and Obama dream team maybe?
Definitely. It's political seesaw: good, cop bad cop.
It's Political Soap Opera.
- Fintan
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Nat
Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 840 Location: minime-rica
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: |
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nice job Oz getting the recording
thanks Jim, for having Fintan your show  |
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jirons
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 172
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: TJ on the forest of fakes |
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Quote: | Fetzer & others still see disinfo in terms of intent. If you didn’t intend to lie, then you’re telling the truth, right? Or at least you’re not disinfo, right? Of course, untruth & disinfo are not matters of intent. We have witting, semi-witting, unwitting & witless 9/11 disinfo purveyors. As one who has been more-than-occasionally duped into repeating the disinfo of the dogs with ticks with whom I lie, I know that being a disinfo agent is NOT a matter of intent. |
Yes, but surely its important to distinguish between deliberate deception and unwitting mistakes. Someone who deliberately misleads is your enemy and probably always will be, whereas someone who themselves has taken a wrong turn is a potential friend. |
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MichaelC

Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 2467
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Just listened to the rest of it. Thanks, Fintan, for clarifying about the 'high government/military official' fakers. Needed to hear that. No reason to ever expect anything good or truthful from those fuckers in the first place. |
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