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John Muir



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: What message was being sent in the Kennedy Assassination? Reply with quote


What message was being sent in the Kennedy Assassination?
1. It told Catholics that you will not be allowed to be President of the USA.

2. It showed that it takes more than money to be President.

3. It showed that the ruling class can kill the President of the USA in broad daylight and cover it up. And, it makes no difference even if your brother is Attorney General of the USA. The ruling class S.A.R. will still kill you.

4. It demonstrated the dominance of the W.A.S.P. ethnic group in America.

5. It showed that Constitutional System of the USA is DEAD.

* There is also a wide spread acknowledgement that Kennedy won the race due to the Italian Mafia rigging the election in Chicago. Kennedy’s legitimacy was always in doubt to Americans.

*The S.A.R. for those that don’t know is the extended family that controls the Executive Branch and Military of the USA.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was just a very public message to all politicans that you don't fuck with the Federal Reserve/MIC. End of story.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kennedy obviously ruffled alot of feathers. But when you think about who had the capability to kill President Kennedy. The U.S. military is the only institution that had it. Kennedy had fired Lemnitzer who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs over the Operation Northwoods Plan. He had also publically embarassed General Walker by making him see a Psychiatrist and giving the story to the media. Walker was a special operations man. He came out of the O.S.S. I am sure he knew a thing or two about how to assassinate a leader. Edwin Walker also had motive. And he lived in Dallas. This gave him the opportunity to do it.

The assassination goes deeper than that it had more to do with just the Federal Reserve and the Military Industrial Complex.



Kubricks Dr. Strangelove also shows what the Conservatives were concerned with at the time. General Ripper talks alot about preserving "our precious bodily fluids". This is a allusion to the loss of control of the Presidency to someone outside the S.A.R. bloodline. JFK did not come out of these bloodlines. The SAR bloodlines controll the U.S. Military. A military that Kennedy alienated. He was said to be a Communist by the John Birchers. Who would protest Kennedys speeches. They wanted war with Russia. Kennedy did not. The S.A.R. military killed him and the FBI and CIA covered it up. The U.S. is a very conservative Nation so conservative that only one extended family has controlled it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just posted my first podcast online which includes a speech by JFK declaring that the United States would never start a war. This pissed everyone off, CIA, Military, Industrial and neoliberalcons.

I plain to include other JFK speeches in future podcasts if you know of any I can obtain through Internet that would be great as well as any other audio.

As with 911 the JFK assassination had to involve the military as you've pointed out, they are the ones with the power to pull it off.

http://odeo.com/channel/276463/view
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Whole Camelot Mystique is brilliant cover for the Military that murdered him. I mean who would believe that King Arthur would be killed by his knights. Yet, Kennedy was killed by his Generals. Arthur was loved by his knights. Kennedy was hated by his Generals for being too soft on the Communists. Camelot was the complete opposite of what his administration embodied.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice cartoon, and I'd forward it, except for the misdirectional 2nd-last sentence.
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John Muir



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Granted its not perfect. Its first panels say alot though.

The history shows that LBJ and Bobby Kennedy hated one another. LBJ once said something to the effect, "my people were doctors, lawyers and university presidents when the Kennedys were still tending bar". Bloodlines are not talked about too much in American politics. It would elucidate too much.

Kennedy wanted to end the Cold War. Ending the cold war would have effected the bottom lines of America's corporate elites.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Muir wrote:
Granted its not perfect. Its first panels say alot though.

Another problem for me is the LBJ story from the Murchison party - J. Edgar Hoover?

So, then Hoover was both an insider of the op AND the guy who fingered GHW Bush as a key operant?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hoover is a wild card I guess. This does monkeywrench the whole story. Probably Hoover was (a) getting himself some life insurance (b) considering playing both sides, since he hated the Kennedy's but was also rivals with the CIA and Dulles, though publicly the FBI and CIA cooperated on fighting crime and protecting national security.

We KNOW the MIC in general was involved in the murder, including Intell, the Mob was apparently involved too (with members close to CIA and legit business), seems like there were players from a wide variety of realms.
If not wide collaboration, it needed wide approval.

Probably the only people/groups NOT involved were the Soviets and Castro. There are various stories about LHO that may have in fact been ordered by someone to go to Dallas to try to protect the President, OR perhaps he heard about the assassination and tried to stop it. OR perhaps he intended to be a participant, just not the pasty. However, Marita Lorenz of Operation 40 -- who was trying to become Mata Hari to Castro and was subject of a movie -- and who testified in court about meeting with Sturgis and other Op 40 guys in a motel room on their way to the assassination, with Hunt walking in to distribute money and guns -- she also stated that she rode to Dallas in a car with Sturgis and LHO. Then she split when she realized how deep it was, not overthrowing Cuba, but America. This fact is stated on a search for "Marita Lorenz" + Oswald, and partly at 41 min in the JFKii video.

As for Hoover, he apparently did write that memo with Bush's name on it, and while FBI and CIA apparently cooperated openly on "crime-fighting", there was a history of rivalry (or at least a major public spat) between Hoover - with his precious FBI band of gangsters (and domestic labor union busters, of Pinkerton Detective "ancestry") vs. Allen Dulles at CIA and his gang of international Nazi terrorists (on a permanent mission for their Wall Street peers to secure cheap passive foreign labor and cheap resources).

The most revealing incident I once mentioned here was when Hoover went to his buddy Joe McCarthy (whose assistant was Richard Nixon, protégé of Prescott Bush and Allen Dulles), and got McCarthy to publicly smear several junior CIA members as communists. The FBI then yanked the security clearances of these members of the Frank Wisner "gang" and demanded to interrogate the accused commies.

The most visible was anti-commie (but liberalish) Cold Warrior, Cord Meyer. He worked with CIA in Europe, probably involved in some mid-60's Op Gladio terrorism. In the past, he had been involved in some antiwar or peace stuff, and his Vassar wife -- Mary Meyer Pinchot -- had ties to some American socialist causes. (Her father Amos Pinchot was a well-known liberal Left activist from a wealthy family -- i think sincerely -- who wrote for some Left magazines and championed Left causes, and who earned the rebuke of Teddy Roosevelt, as well as more widespread rebuke for opposing World War One.)

Anyhow, long story shorter, Dulles and Wisner and I think Bissell stood their ground, Dulles refused FBI's demands to turn over Cord Meyer for questioning (though others went down), and most visibly the CIA unleashed their Operation Mockingbird on Joe McCarthy using newspapers and major media prominently including CBS, which "boldly" stood up for "liberal American values" in the face of the "wrath of McCarthy" -- and which led with some irony to George Clooney's populist-on-the-Left "stand up to the witchhunt" movie of 2005, Good Night and Good Luck, feat. David Strathairn
as Edward R. Murrow. Psych. Or as the colored boys say: SIKE. (obscure Lou Reed reference, but I have seen rappers spell it like that) (Many of these keywords will lead to the spartacus.uk website, which goes into much detail, albeit slanted towards the Left, and probably to wikipedia articles, etc.)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that J Edgar fingered GHW Bush. It was a FBI memo that did. Granted it was a memo written by Hoover. But, it was supposed to remain secret. J Edgar did not leak the memo. Murchison party story came from LBJ's whore. She was at the party. She actually was on "Current Affair" about 16 years ago. It was to that tabloid TV shpw that her story first came out.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Muir wrote:
I don't think that J Edgar fingered GHW Bush. It was a FBI memo that did. Granted it was a memo written by Hoover. But, it was supposed to remain secret. J Edgar did not leak the memo.

No, he didn't put it on the front page of the Times. But you write memos like that because you want a traceable record. Perhaps even in the event that Hoover was himself taken out, someone would be able to trace the hit with that clue.

Maybe the 2 scenarios do jibe - perhaps Hoover was just miffed at this new "Bush character" coming in from Dallas out of nowhere with veiled threats, throwing his weight around. It's quite likely Hoover didn't know - at the party or other such meetings - that the patsy would be one of his own FBI guys - particularly the one he'd sent to snoop around the Lake Ponchartrain training camp when JFK was 'cleaning up' the anti-Castro agents. Bush's trip was most likely to make sure J. Ed had no problem with Oswald becoming the sacrifical lamb.

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